'Orwellian' police in bid to silence ex-boyfriend stalked by youngest magistrate

[Ayatollah Hermione 13760]

I wonder how Fop argues in real-life without all the fucking smilies and bolded text. Does he just shout and flail his arms about until someone looks at him?

[Fop 1]

I wonder how Fop argues in real-life without all the fucking smilies and bolded text. Does he just shout and flail his arms about until someone looks at him?

No, I just use my Death-Laser™, or bribe the police into telling them it's an offence.

[Park Life 71]

People who haven't got something against the authorities or had cause to have a grievance with the authorities in their many guises I count on the wrong side.

[The Fish 10671]

Ah hero worship, Papa must be so very proud.

 

Out of interest why only "a few years" in the force? Can only think of a couple of reasons why that might be (and no him having bigger biceps/penis/cardigan than my father is not one before you start ).

 

a few as in more than 2 but less than a thousand.

 

Jesus Fop if you can only think of a couple of reasons why this is, you're a man of severely limited knowledge.

 

 

 

 

Now again do you think the police in the original post or indeed the video were acting legally or even just correctly?

I think that for every injustice committed by the police there's countless silent examples of justice being rightly delivered by the police which does not make the news. How many times do we hear about those? Never, because it's trendy to hate the police irrationally, it's easy and naive.

 

you're a demagogue fop and a fairly obvious one at that.

 

Again (back to the point of the thread) do you think the police in the original post or indeed the video were acting legally or even just correctly?

 

And again if you didn't understand my point it's hardly worth my time.

 

You hold police officers to a higher standard and are surprised, shocked when they don't meet it. You're a foolish man who just likes the sound of his own voice.

 

now please, for all our sakes remind me I'm obsessed, I'm a hamster, I'm a sheep, etc. etc. etc. you'll surely turn blue if you don't

[manc-mag 1]

People who haven't got something against the authorities or had cause to have a grievance with the authorities in their many guises I count on the wrong side.

 

I think the essential difference is between legitimately having something against them and having everything against them though. I think, with the former that's fine because if it's correctly regulated it allows you to objectively bring them to account in individual circumstances, having a full appreciation of the context-the latter however doesnt serve anyones interests, because (as with all generalisations) it comes across as hysterical and unbalanced and short of pointing out a problem, is singularly unlikely to steer us towards any sensible or practical solutions. cf the difference between Fish and Fop's posts on that, it is absolutely palpable.

 

PS at the risk of labouring the point, absolutely nobody is saying that the behaviour in the title post was correct or justifiable-the fact that Fop continuously keeps misinterpreting this is evidence of the hysterical way in which he approaches the subject. You can tell the guy just isnt capable of rational thought on the matter by these responses. Thats where he is a complete dis-service to the debate.

[Fop 1]

Ah hero worship, Papa must be so very proud.

 

Out of interest why only "a few years" in the force? Can only think of a couple of reasons why that might be (and no him having bigger biceps/penis/cardigan than my father is not one before you start ).

 

a few as in more than 2 but less than a thousand.

 

Jesus Fop if you can only think of a couple of reasons why this is, you're a man of severely limited knowledge.

 

Ah so you were lying then, and he did the full stint, Papa would be proud.

 

So again out of interest how high up did he get in his stint then?

 

 

Now again do you think the police in the original post or indeed the video were acting legally or even just correctly?

I think that for every injustice committed by the police there's countless silent examples of justice being rightly delivered by the police which does not make the news. How many times do we hear about those? Never, because it's trendy to hate the police irrationally, it's easy and naive.

 

you're a demagogue fop and a fairly obvious one at that.

 

Again (back to the point of the thread) do you think the police in the original post or indeed the video were acting legally or even just correctly?

 

And again if you didn't understand my point it's hardly worth my time.

 

You hold police officers to a higher standard and are surprised, shocked when they don't meet it. You're a foolish man who just likes the sound of his own voice.

 

now please, for all our sakes remind me I'm obsessed, I'm a hamster, I'm a sheep, etc. etc. etc. you'll surely turn blue if you don't

 

Again (as you refuse to answer it - I guess as it might reflect badly on dear Papa ) do you think the police in the original post or indeed the video were acting legally or even just correctly?

Edited June 9, 2008 by Fop

[Fop 1]

People who haven't got something against the authorities or had cause to have a grievance with the authorities in their many guises I count on the wrong side.

No genuinely honest person will go through life without having the authorities wrong them in some way or other.

 

 

 

People who haven't got something against the authorities or had cause to have a grievance with the authorities in their many guises I count on the wrong side.

 

I think the essential difference is between legitimately having something against them and having everything against them though. I think, with the former that's fine because if it's correctly regulated it allows you to objectively bring them to account in individual circumstances, having a full appreciation of the context-the latter however doesnt serve anyones interests, because (as with all generalisations) it comes across as hysterical and unbalanced and short of pointing out a problem, is singularly unlikely to steer us towards any sensible or practical solutions. cf the difference between Fish and Fop's posts on that, it is absolutely palpable.

 

PS at the risk of labouring the point, absolutely nobody is saying that the behaviour in the title post was correct or justifiable-the fact that Fop continuously keeps misinterpreting this is evidence of the hysterical way in which he approaches the subject. You can tell the guy just isnt capable of rational thought on the matter by these responses. Thats where he is a complete dis-service to the debate.

 

Still just making shit up I see, I guess maybe you are still trying to be a copper.

 

 

And out of interest read what I wrote and read what you replied - there's only ONE of us being hysterical there and it is YOU I'm afraid...... but as usual my dear don't let the FACTS get in the way of a good STORY.

[Fop 1]

I know this is the daily mail, but even so it's appalling (and surely illegal) that the police would try to do this and effectively threaten people and invent a "crime" (it is NOT a crime to talk to the press, send an e-mail to the press or indeed a victim of a crime to sell their story) to try and suppress something.

 

We really need much strong oversight on the police force in this country. Especially as this is for a fairly piffling thing, iimagine what they do for things that they REALLY don't want in the Press.

 

 

No shit, Sherlock?!

 

Well I feel educated, so thanks for that, but what the fuck is your vendetta against the plod? Seriously, it doesn't half come across as though you have some major, festering personal greivance

 

 

Aye "debate"? Hmm.... not seeing it.

 

"Hysterics"? Yup definitely in your reply, not really in my point though.

 

"Making shit up to suit your own adgenda"? Yup, again in your reply.

 

So what were we talking about again?

 

 

 

Ah yes, the police acting in an illegal and "Orwellian" way in this country. Pay attention!

[sweetleftpeg 0]

Fop remind anyone of Mr Logic in Viz magazine?

 

More 'Major Misunderstanding'

[Fop 1]

Fop remind anyone of Mr Logic in Viz magazine?

 

More 'Major Misunderstanding'

 

[manc-mag 1]

I know this is the daily mail, but even so it's appalling (and surely illegal) that the police would try to do this and effectively threaten people and invent a "crime" (it is NOT a crime to talk to the press, send an e-mail to the press or indeed a victim of a crime to sell their story) to try and suppress something.

 

We really need much strong oversight on the police force in this country. Especially as this is for a fairly piffling thing, iimagine what they do for things that they REALLY don't want in the Press.

 

 

No shit, Sherlock?!

 

Well I feel educated, so thanks for that, but what the fuck is your vendetta against the plod? Seriously, it doesn't half come across as though you have some major, festering personal greivance

 

 

Aye "debate"? Hmm.... not seeing it.

 

"Hysterics"? Yup definitely in your reply, not really in my point though.

 

"Making shit up to suit your own adgenda"? Yup, again in your reply.

 

So what were we talking about again?

 

 

 

Ah yes, the police acting in an illegal and "Orwellian" way in this country. Pay attention!

 

Do you still think people are disagreeing with you about the example cited?

 

Fop can I ask you a semi-legal question? It's okay you can Googlewack for the answer, as it isn't for one upmanship, it's just so I can illustrate a point.

[Fop 1]

I know this is the daily mail, but even so it's appalling (and surely illegal) that the police would try to do this and effectively threaten people and invent a "crime" (it is NOT a crime to talk to the press, send an e-mail to the press or indeed a victim of a crime to sell their story) to try and suppress something.

 

We really need much strong oversight on the police force in this country. Especially as this is for a fairly piffling thing, iimagine what they do for things that they REALLY don't want in the Press.

 

 

No shit, Sherlock?!

 

Well I feel educated, so thanks for that, but what the fuck is your vendetta against the plod? Seriously, it doesn't half come across as though you have some major, festering personal greivance

 

 

Aye "debate"? Hmm.... not seeing it.

 

"Hysterics"? Yup definitely in your reply, not really in my point though.

 

"Making shit up to suit your own adgenda"? Yup, again in your reply.

 

So what were we talking about again?

 

 

 

Ah yes, the police acting in an illegal and "Orwellian" way in this country. Pay attention!

 

Do you still think people are disagreeing with you about the example cited?

 

Fop can I ask you a semi-legal question? It's okay you can Googlewack for the answer, as it isn't for one upmanship, it's just so I can illustrate a point.

 

Nope like I said, you know I'm completely right and so are just trying to pick a fight on another issue, I'm not biting and it's driving you MAD.

 

 

 

So.... the police acting in an illegal and "Orwellian" way in this country, then.....

[Holden McGroin 6454]

In my mind, I picture Fop as one of those people who wear a tracksuit with shoes. Without doubt still a smart-arse virgin.

Edited June 9, 2008 by Holden McGroin

[manc-mag 1]

 

Absolutely out of his tree!

[Fop 1]

In my mind, I picture Fop as one of those people who wear a tracksuit with shoes. Without doubt still a smart-arse virgin.

That you picture me at all......

 

 

Absolutely out of his tree!

And yet you are obsessed with me.

[Holden McGroin 6454]

In my mind, I picture Fop as one of those people who wear a tracksuit with shoes. Without doubt still a smart-arse virgin.

That you picture me at all......

 

 

 

Its hard to ignore someone so annoying.

 

You should work in an insomniac clinic. Imagine the good you could do.

[Fop 1]

In my mind, I picture Fop as one of those people who wear a tracksuit with shoes. Without doubt still a smart-arse virgin.

That you picture me at all......

 

 

 

Its hard to ignore someone so annoying.

 

You should work in an insomniac clinic. Imagine the good you could do.

You'd be lying awake, erect at the though of me all night, not only would you get no sleep but you'd probably give yourself a strain.

 

 

 

 

I must admit though you don't get these quality of insults when Torres is busy posting, only room for one villain at a time I guess.

 

 

 

(the usual suspects are beginning to mass in the thread bar as I type - mass mobbing in..... )

Edited June 9, 2008 by Fop

[Holden McGroin 6454]

In my mind, I picture Fop as one of those people who wear a tracksuit with shoes. Without doubt still a smart-arse virgin.

That you picture me at all......

 

 

 

Its hard to ignore someone so annoying.

 

You should work in an insomniac clinic. Imagine the good you could do.

You'd be lying awake, erect at the though of me all night, not only would you get no sleep but you'd probably give yourself a strain.

 

 

 

 

I must admit though you don't get these quality of insults when Torres is busy posting, only room for one villain at a time I guess.

 

 

 

(the usual suspects are beginning to mass in the thread bar as I type - mass mobbing in..... )

 

Where did I insult you? Its career advice to be honest.

[Fop 1]

In my mind, I picture Fop as one of those people who wear a tracksuit with shoes. Without doubt still a smart-arse virgin.

That you picture me at all......

 

 

 

Its hard to ignore someone so annoying.

 

You should work in an insomniac clinic. Imagine the good you could do.

You'd be lying awake, erect at the though of me all night, not only would you get no sleep but you'd probably give yourself a strain.

 

 

 

 

I must admit though you don't get these quality of insults when Torres is busy posting, only room for one villain at a time I guess.

 

 

 

(the usual suspects are beginning to mass in the thread bar as I type - mass mobbing in..... )

 

Where did I insult you? Its career advice to be honest.

 

See!

[manc-mag 1]

Fop remind anyone of Mr Logic in Viz magazine?

 

Imagine trying to have a real life conversation with Fop!

 

I wonder how Fop argues in real-life without all the fucking smilies and bolded text. Does

he just shout and flail his arms about until someone looks at him?

 

More 'Major Misunderstanding'

 

In my mind, I picture Fop as one of those people who wear a tracksuit with shoes. Without doubt still a smart-arse virgin.

 

Just a selection of the ringing endorsements for your debating skills there, David Icke. No doubt some sort of sinister conspiracy by the mob of course-what other rational explanation could there be after all?

[Fop 1]

Fop remind anyone of Mr Logic in Viz magazine?

 

Imagine trying to have a real life conversation with Fop!

 

I wonder how Fop argues in real-life without all the fucking smilies and bolded text. Does

he just shout and flail his arms about until someone looks at him?

 

More 'Major Misunderstanding'

 

In my mind, I picture Fop as one of those people who wear a tracksuit with shoes. Without doubt still a smart-arse virgin.

 

Just a selection of the ringing endorsements for your debating skills there, David Icke. No doubt some sort of sinister conspiracy by the mob of course-what other rational explanation could there be after all?

 

Like I said you're clearly utterly obsessed with me.

 

Which is flattering for me, but a bit worrying for you.

 

 

And again like I said you don't get this much fun when Torres is busy posting, but when he's not...... it's priceless.

[manc-mag 1]

Even if I was obsessed, it doesnt alter the fact people clearly thing you're mongtabulous!

[Fop 1]

Even if I was obsessed, it doesnt alter the fact people clearly thing you're mongtabulous!

 

You are utterly obsessed, and no one likes a good villain, it's the sign of being a good villain.

[Holden McGroin 6454]

Even if I was obsessed, it doesnt alter the fact people clearly thing you're mongtabulous!

 

You are utterly obsessed, and no one likes a good villain, it's the sign of being a good villain.

 

 

This isn't the movies Fop.

[Fop 1]

Even if I was obsessed, it doesnt alter the fact people clearly thing you're mongtabulous!

 

You are utterly obsessed, and no one likes a good villain, it's the sign of being a good villain.

 

 

This isn't the movies Fop.

 

No, this is better. (although largely more predictably admittedly)