'Orwellian' police in bid to silence ex-boyfriend stalked by youngest magistrate

[Holden McGroin 6786]

This is like Groundhog day.

 

Lock it.

 

Good idea.

 

Or you could just stop posting in it?

Or you could.....

 

Im not writing repetitive responses every other post though. Pretty tedious.

[The Fish 10972]

Fop, remind me, why do you think that I think I'm considerably richer than anyone?

 

I don't (Papa maybe), I just think your boasting about it is very, very vulgar indeed.

 

Are you considerably richer then the average bear?

 

when did I genuinely boast about anything of the sort? Or is this another concocted fantasy we're all just supposed to humour you with?

[Fop 1]

This is like Groundhog day.

 

Lock it.

 

Good idea.

 

Or you could just stop posting in it?

Or you could.....

 

Im not writing repetitive responses every other post though. Pretty tedious.

 

And yet you reply (fascinating, truthfully).

Also 13 pages was the record, anything more than that is new territory.

[Fop 1]

Fop, remind me, why do you think that I think I'm considerably richer than anyone?

 

I don't (Papa maybe), I just think your boasting about it is very, very vulgar indeed.

 

Are you considerably richer then the average bear?

 

when did I genuinely boast about anything of the sort? Or is this another concocted fantasy we're all just supposed to humour you with?

 

In that other thread - your response to a bit of teasing quite clearly showing that you realised you had made a very vulgar faux pas, but it's not realising it so much as doing it in the first place that is so vulgar and revealing.

 

Are you considerably richer than the average hamster?

[manc-mag 1]

What a tirade of shit.

[Fop 1]

What a tirade of shit.

I genuinely couldn't agree more.

 

 

We both know you'll never leave though (page 15! )..... and don't give up on the witticism attempts, you were getting closer before.

Edited June 12, 2008 by Fop

[The Fish 10972]

oh that other thread , with proof like this, who needs actual evidence?

 

I'm sure I've never seriously claimed to have any more money than anyone else.

[Fop 1]

oh that other thread , with proof like this, who needs actual evidence?

 

I'm sure I've never seriously claimed to have any more money than anyone else.

Yup that one.

 

Are you considerably richer than Top Cat? And are you no longer interested in what "I" do?

[manc-mag 1]

How long must this crap be building inside him for before he lets rip do you reckon?!

[The Fish 10972]

well I find it difficult to have a grown up conversation with a 2d drawing. But sure, I'll humour you.

 

Prove I said anything of the sort.

 

and Fop why are you so lacking in self respect that you're incapable of revealing anything about yourself? Were you abused as a child? touched up by your uncle? fondled by an aunt? Did the other kids bully you to the point your drew your finger nails across your face in order to scratch away their victim. Does shame rule all of your life?

 

were you wanting something like that?

 

(It amuses me no end that you've been hunched over furiously rocking back and forth waiting for a reply in this thread)

[Fop 1]

How long must this crap be building inside him for before he lets rip do you reckon?!

It is kinda stress relieving, as well as interesting and, of course, amusing (and record breaking now).

 

 

It seems you have given up on the witticisms entirely now though - obsession has beaten you.

[Fop 1]

well I find it difficult to have a grown up conversation with a 2d drawing. But sure, I'll humour you.

 

Prove I said anything of the sort.

 

and Fop why are you so lacking in self respect that you're incapable of revealing anything about yourself? Were you abused as a child? touched up by your uncle? fondled by an aunt? Did the other kids bully you to the point your drew your finger nails across your face in order to scratch away their victim. Does shame rule all of your life?

 

were you wanting something like that?

 

(It amuses me no end that you've been hunched over furiously rocking back and forth waiting for a reply in this thread)

 

It's all in that thread - your pure vulgarity to behold.

 

Ah so you are still interested in "moi".

 

Are you considerably richer than Richie Rich?

[manc-mag 1]

record breaking?

[The Fish 10972]

Which thread?

 

more interested in how someone who clearly has mastered a base level of discourse can still fail so monumentally on so many occasions.

[Fop 1]

record breaking?

 

Yup. (and not just for your obsession with "me")

 

Which thread?

 

more interested in how someone who clearly has mastered a base level of discourse can still fail so monumentally on so many occasions.

You've forgotten already? You knew which one in the post before. Or is that political forgetting al la whether you swallowed or inhaled.

 

Are you considerably richer than Lembit Öpik?

Edited June 12, 2008 by Fop

[sweetleftpeg 0]

I've forgotten what this thread is about. Anyone?

[manc-mag 1]

record breaking?

 

Yup. (and not just for your obsession with "me")

 

 

Meaning it broke a former record presumably, which would have been what?

[Fop 1]

I've forgotten what this thread is about. Anyone?

 

This is what it's supposed to be about:

'Orwellian' police in bid to silence ex-boyfriend stalked by youngest magistrate

 

By Ian Gallagher and Alan Rimmer

Last updated at 2:09 AM on 08th June 2008

 

Police have been accused of an 'Orwellian' attempt to silence a man who said he was harassed by Britain's youngest magistrate.

 

In what was viewed by politicians last night as an attack on the freedom of speech, detectives made him sign a statement promising not talk to the Press about the case - after details appeared in The Mail on Sunday.

 

But when asked what grounds they had for their actions, a police spokeswoman refused to comment.

tate

 

Accused: JP Lucy Tate, Britain's youngest magistrate, whose ex said she stalked him

 

The West Yorkshire force also refused to say who had ordered the officers to step in and what offence, if any, they were investigating. The man had accused his former girlfriend, Lucy Tate, who was made a JP at 19, of bombarding him with hundreds of phone calls and texts after he ended their relationship.

 

He also said she abused his new girlfriend, stalked him and hacked into his Friends Reunited entry and announced she had given birth to his baby.

 

Last week, two officers - Detective Sergeant Vanessa Gardner and Detective Constable Steve Williams - visited the 22-year-old civil engineer at his home.

 

The man's father said: 'They said they had been asked to "nip the situation in the bud". But the question is who was asking them to do this? They wanted to stop him speaking further about the case. He went along with the statement because he thought they had the power to do that.

 

'I find the whole thing sinister and Orwellian. It is an inappropriate use of police power.'

 

Concerns were echoed by MPs. Labour's Denis MacShane said: 'It is not the business of the police in a democracy to seek to gag any citizen from giving any information or comment he or she might wish to give to the Press.'

 

Fellow Labour MP Austin Mitchell said: 'The way the police are behaving is simply wrong.'

 

Before the gagging attempt, the man, who does not wish to be named, had already been interviewed by a WPC about his complaint. On one night alone Miss Tate, now 21, a magistrate in Pontefract, West Yorkshire, sent him a 'blizzard' of 57 texts.

 

He later received a letter from police saying: 'We will do all that we can to protect you and to prevent any further incidents. We have written to Miss Tate and warned her that it is police policy to arrest wherever possible'.

 

But after the story was published he had his second police visit. The man's father said: 'I explained that my son wasn't in. They said they had been asked to prevent a "turf war" among the Press paying for the story. I told them that he had received no money for the story and that none had been offered.

 

'My wife contacted my son who came home with his new girlfriend. The police separated the two and said they wanted to interview them separately so as not to "contaminate" their evidence.

 

'They assured me he wasn't being cautioned, so I allowed the process to go ahead. His mother sat in while they interviewed him. The interview lasted about an hour. I waited in the kitchen with his girlfriend. Above all else the detectives told him that he mustn't talk to the Press and then made him go over the whole history of his dealings with Lucy Tate. He repeated everything he had told The Mail on Sunday - and said the story that appeared on May 23 was entirely accurate.'

 

The detectives were also anxious to find out about the source of an email sent to this newspaper, which led to the interview.

 

'My son told them that he did not send it, that he did not know who sent it. But they repeatedly asked him about this and tried to get him to say that it was him or that he knew the source. In fact, it wasn't even the case that my son went to the Press about this.

 

He hadn't even thought about talking publicly until contacted by The Mail on Sunday.

 

'The police took details of his email account and mobile phone number, suggesting that they would make their own checks.

 

'I think this is an inappropriate use of their powers. They had clearly been asked to do this by someone above them.

 

'I said this wouldn't be happening if this didn't involve a magistrate but they didn't answer. I suppose they knew I was right.

 

'The attitude of the police was very formal. They took a three page statement but didn't give my son a copy. I find the whole process deeply disturbing. My son was the victim in this matter.'

 

When initially confronted with her ex's allegations, Miss Tate, now 21 - who is still a JP - denied them. She insisted: 'I've never been spoken to by the police or cautioned in any way about him.'

 

But later, the magistrates' official body, the Judicial Communications Office (JCO), admitted she had been questioned by police. Last night, another JCO spokesman said he knew nothing of the police's gagging attempt.

 

West Yorkshire police said: 'We can confirm that both parties referred to in the previous article have been spoken to by police officers and it is extremely unlikely that there will be further police involvement. It would be inappropriate to comment upon information given by an individual in the course of an investigation.'

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10...magistrate.html

 

I know this is the daily mail, but even so it's appalling (and surely illegal) that the police would try to do this and effectively threaten people and invent a "crime" (it is NOT a crime to talk to the press, send an e-mail to the press or indeed a victim of a crime to sell their story) to try and suppress something.

 

We really need much strong oversight on the police force in this country. Especially as this is for a fairly piffling thing, iimagine what they do for things that they REALLY don't want in the Press.

 

 

Of course in reality it's a Fish and Manc-Mag obsession-fest.

[Fop 1]

record breaking?

 

Yup. (and not just for your obsession with "me")

 

 

Meaning it broke a former record presumably, which would have been what?

I could answer that, but it would only fuel your obsession further and may result in the total death of your sense of humour altogether.

[manc-mag 1]

so no record then.

[The Fish 10972]

You've forgotten already? You knew which one in the post before. Or is that political forgetting al la whether you swallowed or inhaled.

 

Are you considerably richer than Lembit Öpik?

 

I bet Lawyers all over the world knew the secret to winning an argument was simply to make stuff up until the other aprty got bored, they'd save themselves hours searching for all that evidence to back themselves up with.

 

Which thread was it in Fop? You could win this argument here and now, if only you could answer a straight question?

[Fop 1]

You've forgotten already? You knew which one in the post before. Or is that political forgetting al la whether you swallowed or inhaled.

 

Are you considerably richer than Lembit Öpik?

 

I bet Lawyers all over the world knew the secret to winning an argument was simply to make stuff up until the other aprty got bored, they'd save themselves hours searching for all that evidence to back themselves up with.

 

Which thread was it in Fop? You could win this argument here and now, if only you could answer a straight question?

 

Anyone with the vaguest interest in your vulgarity can look it up - you and me both know which one.

 

Are you considerably richer than Rumpole of the Bailey?

[Fop 1]

so no record then.

 

Afraid so. (your really shouldn't let your obsession and inability to let go destroy all your attempts at humour you know, it's not good for you)

[The Fish 10972]

Genuinely haven't a clue about which thread you speak. It's yet another of your fantasies which, while at first can be entertaining as yet another example why you joined the BNP.

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