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Damn, this was awful. We were the far worse team for about 2/3 of the match and still luckily won it. That's German luck tbh.

 

Lahm did everything wrong and right. I'd kill the Turckish 'keeper personally tbh...

 

2J cursed him with one of his now famous respec threads. :icon_lol:

That was merely my approval for him almost decapitating Dyer. :icon_lol:

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You couldn't play Ballack and Gerrard in the same team in my opinion, and Gerrard is head and shoulders better. With regards Lahm, he's one of the best I've ever seen attacking from full back but he's piss poor at defending, so it would be debatable if he would get in in front of Ashley Cole. Podolski wouldn't get in in front of Rooney in my opinion, so the only Kraut I think you could say would make our strongest eleven for definite would be Miroslav Klose, although I think Schweinsteiger has a lot potential.

Ballack for Germany is head and shoulders above Gerrard for England though. And that's the key to it overall for me. Better individuals don't always make the best team, as both England and Germany have shown over the years.

Ballack one free kick aside hasn't had the best impact on this side in this tournament. The only thing that has held Gerrard back in international football is Frank Lampard, Gerrard was better alongside Scholes who has twice the brain Lampard has.

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You couldn't play Ballack and Gerrard in the same team in my opinion, and Gerrard is head and shoulders better. With regards Lahm, he's one of the best I've ever seen attacking from full back but he's piss poor at defending, so it would be debatable if he would get in in front of Ashley Cole. Podolski wouldn't get in in front of Rooney in my opinion, so the only Kraut I think you could say would make our strongest eleven for definite would be Miroslav Klose, although I think Schweinsteiger has a lot potential.

Ballack for Germany is head and shoulders above Gerrard for England though. And that's the key to it overall for me. Better individuals don't always make the best team, as both England and Germany have shown over the years.

 

Ballack was totally hustled out the game last night. Didn't get a kick.

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You couldn't play Ballack and Gerrard in the same team in my opinion, and Gerrard is head and shoulders better. With regards Lahm, he's one of the best I've ever seen attacking from full back but he's piss poor at defending, so it would be debatable if he would get in in front of Ashley Cole. Podolski wouldn't get in in front of Rooney in my opinion, so the only Kraut I think you could say would make our strongest eleven for definite would be Miroslav Klose, although I think Schweinsteiger has a lot potential.

 

That would explain why they are in the final of a tournament that your 11 couldn`t even qualify for! I think only about 4 English players would make the German team. Added to that, they don`t have a winning mentality like the Germans do.

No it wouldn't. We had a piss piss poor manager who made so many mistakes it was laughable, not to mention the fact that against Croatia we had a reserve defence out AND 4th choice keeper. What you think is inconsequential, like I say the only German I'd say would be a definite starter would be Klose for Owen.

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You couldn't play Ballack and Gerrard in the same team in my opinion, and Gerrard is head and shoulders better. With regards Lahm, he's one of the best I've ever seen attacking from full back but he's piss poor at defending, so it would be debatable if he would get in in front of Ashley Cole. Podolski wouldn't get in in front of Rooney in my opinion, so the only Kraut I think you could say would make our strongest eleven for definite would be Miroslav Klose, although I think Schweinsteiger has a lot potential.

Ballack for Germany is head and shoulders above Gerrard for England though. And that's the key to it overall for me. Better individuals don't always make the best team, as both England and Germany have shown over the years.

Ballack one free kick aside hasn't had the best impact on this side in this tournament. The only thing that has held Gerrard back in international football is Frank Lampard, Gerrard was better alongside Scholes who has twice the brain Lampard has.

I think Ballack's been pretty influential for Germany. He had a big impact in 2002 too, although less so two years ago. And I agree to an extent about Gerrard although Lampard has suffered in the same way due to them being too similar (in their role anyway). I think Gerrard is a better player though.

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You couldn't play Ballack and Gerrard in the same team in my opinion, and Gerrard is head and shoulders better. With regards Lahm, he's one of the best I've ever seen attacking from full back but he's piss poor at defending, so it would be debatable if he would get in in front of Ashley Cole. Podolski wouldn't get in in front of Rooney in my opinion, so the only Kraut I think you could say would make our strongest eleven for definite would be Miroslav Klose, although I think Schweinsteiger has a lot potential.

I'd play Ballack ahead of Gerrard in international football any day.

 

Although the diving competition would be much closer. :icon_lol:

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Damn, this was awful. We were the far worse team for about 2/3 of the match and still luckily won it. That's German luck tbh.

 

Lahm did everything wrong and right. I'd kill the Turckish 'keeper personally tbh...

Individually we're head and shoulders better than the krauts, it's a crying shame that ginger bastard was ever given control of the England team.

 

The two centre halfs are astonishingly shite. The fundamental thing in football is passing the ball, both of them reminded me of Stephen Caldwell in this aspect.

 

This must be the worst German CD pairing ever.

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You couldn't play Ballack and Gerrard in the same team in my opinion, and Gerrard is head and shoulders better. With regards Lahm, he's one of the best I've ever seen attacking from full back but he's piss poor at defending, so it would be debatable if he would get in in front of Ashley Cole. Podolski wouldn't get in in front of Rooney in my opinion, so the only Kraut I think you could say would make our strongest eleven for definite would be Miroslav Klose, although I think Schweinsteiger has a lot potential.

Ballack for Germany is head and shoulders above Gerrard for England though. And that's the key to it overall for me. Better individuals don't always make the best team, as both England and Germany have shown over the years.

Ballack one free kick aside hasn't had the best impact on this side in this tournament. The only thing that has held Gerrard back in international football is Frank Lampard, Gerrard was better alongside Scholes who has twice the brain Lampard has.

I think Ballack's been pretty influential for Germany. He had a big impact in 2002 too, although less so two years ago. And I agree to an extent about Gerrard although Lampard has suffered in the same way due to them being too similar (in their role anyway). I think Gerrard is a better player though.

That was his good season. He came close to winning the Kraut League, Cup and CL and ended up second in all three but he shone in that team. Since then what has been his telling contribution? Germany didn't even get a win in Euro 2004 including a 0-0 draw with Latvia, and as Hansen pointed out in 2006 they were mediocre and stumbled in to the semi's where they were beaten by an equally mediocre Italy.

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You couldn't play Ballack and Gerrard in the same team in my opinion, and Gerrard is head and shoulders better. With regards Lahm, he's one of the best I've ever seen attacking from full back but he's piss poor at defending, so it would be debatable if he would get in in front of Ashley Cole. Podolski wouldn't get in in front of Rooney in my opinion, so the only Kraut I think you could say would make our strongest eleven for definite would be Miroslav Klose, although I think Schweinsteiger has a lot potential.

Ballack for Germany is head and shoulders above Gerrard for England though. And that's the key to it overall for me. Better individuals don't always make the best team, as both England and Germany have shown over the years.

Ballack one free kick aside hasn't had the best impact on this side in this tournament. The only thing that has held Gerrard back in international football is Frank Lampard, Gerrard was better alongside Scholes who has twice the brain Lampard has.

I think Ballack's been pretty influential for Germany. He had a big impact in 2002 too, although less so two years ago. And I agree to an extent about Gerrard although Lampard has suffered in the same way due to them being too similar (in their role anyway). I think Gerrard is a better player though.

That was his good season. He came close to winning the Kraut League, Cup and CL and ended up second in all three but he shone in that team. Since then what has been his telling contribution? Germany didn't even get a win in Euro 2004 including a 0-0 draw with Latvia, and as Hansen pointed out in 2006 they were mediocre and stumbled in to the semi's where they were beaten by an equally mediocre Italy.

Germany weren't mediocre in 2006 at all, along with Argentina they played the best football in the tournament.

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Damn, this was awful. We were the far worse team for about 2/3 of the match and still luckily won it. That's German luck tbh.

 

Lahm did everything wrong and right. I'd kill the Turckish 'keeper personally tbh...

Individually we're head and shoulders better than the krauts, it's a crying shame that ginger bastard was ever given control of the England team.

 

The two centre halfs are astonishingly shite. The fundamental thing in football is passing the ball, both of them reminded me of Stephen Caldwell in this aspect.

 

 

The Krauts are underrated and Engurlad are vastly overrated. To say that Engurland is head and shoulders above them in any respect is complete trash.

 

How many of the German players would get in an England 11 ?

 

Only Ballack, Klose, Podolski and Lahm would have any chance. The rest are sub standard.

 

Lehmann is better than any English Keeper and Frings is better than any holding midfielder England has. Metzelder is also woth a shout, not to mention Schweinsteiger.

 

How many English players would make the German team is a more appropriate question.

You are a fuckin mug. Metzelder wouldn't be in the top 8 English centre halfs in my opinion. As for Lehman oh my god, leave you fucking cunt. I think he would probably admit himself he couldn't wipe James' arse, you could even put a case up for Harper being better, I've certainly not seen James or Harper drop two clangers in one game like he did last night. Frings oh dear.

 

 

 

You really haven`t got a clue, do you? David James is a joke..........and so is your knowledge of football.

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Damn, this was awful. We were the far worse team for about 2/3 of the match and still luckily won it. That's German luck tbh.

 

Lahm did everything wrong and right. I'd kill the Turckish 'keeper personally tbh...

Individually we're head and shoulders better than the krauts, it's a crying shame that ginger bastard was ever given control of the England team.

 

The two centre halfs are astonishingly shite. The fundamental thing in football is passing the ball, both of them reminded me of Stephen Caldwell in this aspect.

 

 

The Krauts are underrated and Engurlad are vastly overrated. To say that Engurland is head and shoulders above them in any respect is complete trash.

 

How many of the German players would get in an England 11 ?

 

Only Ballack, Klose, Podolski and Lahm would have any chance. The rest are sub standard.

 

Lehmann is better than any English Keeper and Frings is better than any holding midfielder England has. Metzelder is also woth a shout, not to mention Schweinsteiger.

 

How many English players would make the German team is a more appropriate question.

You are a fuckin mug. Metzelder wouldn't be in the top 8 English centre halfs in my opinion. As for Lehman oh my god, leave you fucking cunt. I think he would probably admit himself he couldn't wipe James' arse, you could even put a case up for Harper being better, I've certainly not seen James or Harper drop two clangers in one game like he did last night. Frings oh dear.

 

 

 

You really haven`t got a clue, do you? David James is a joke..........and so is your knowledge of football.

 

Lehmann was awful last night.

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You couldn't play Ballack and Gerrard in the same team in my opinion, and Gerrard is head and shoulders better. With regards Lahm, he's one of the best I've ever seen attacking from full back but he's piss poor at defending, so it would be debatable if he would get in in front of Ashley Cole. Podolski wouldn't get in in front of Rooney in my opinion, so the only Kraut I think you could say would make our strongest eleven for definite would be Miroslav Klose, although I think Schweinsteiger has a lot potential.

Ballack for Germany is head and shoulders above Gerrard for England though. And that's the key to it overall for me. Better individuals don't always make the best team, as both England and Germany have shown over the years.

Ballack one free kick aside hasn't had the best impact on this side in this tournament. The only thing that has held Gerrard back in international football is Frank Lampard, Gerrard was better alongside Scholes who has twice the brain Lampard has.

I think Ballack's been pretty influential for Germany. He had a big impact in 2002 too, although less so two years ago. And I agree to an extent about Gerrard although Lampard has suffered in the same way due to them being too similar (in their role anyway). I think Gerrard is a better player though.

That was his good season. He came close to winning the Kraut League, Cup and CL and ended up second in all three but he shone in that team. Since then what has been his telling contribution? Germany didn't even get a win in Euro 2004 including a 0-0 draw with Latvia, and as Hansen pointed out in 2006 they were mediocre and stumbled in to the semi's where they were beaten by an equally mediocre Italy.

What's Gerrard's big contribution been then? I don't see how he gets off scot free for being generally anonymous in an England team which, according to you, is miles better than Germany's just because he's had to play with Lampard. Yet Ballack has performed better in a supposedly inferior team yet you seem to be arguing he's not as good at international level. Admittedly I see less of Germany but there's no doubt in my mind Ballack has looked better for them than Gerrard has for England.

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You couldn't play Ballack and Gerrard in the same team in my opinion, and Gerrard is head and shoulders better. With regards Lahm, he's one of the best I've ever seen attacking from full back but he's piss poor at defending, so it would be debatable if he would get in in front of Ashley Cole. Podolski wouldn't get in in front of Rooney in my opinion, so the only Kraut I think you could say would make our strongest eleven for definite would be Miroslav Klose, although I think Schweinsteiger has a lot potential.

Ballack for Germany is head and shoulders above Gerrard for England though. And that's the key to it overall for me. Better individuals don't always make the best team, as both England and Germany have shown over the years.

Ballack one free kick aside hasn't had the best impact on this side in this tournament. The only thing that has held Gerrard back in international football is Frank Lampard, Gerrard was better alongside Scholes who has twice the brain Lampard has.

I think Ballack's been pretty influential for Germany. He had a big impact in 2002 too, although less so two years ago. And I agree to an extent about Gerrard although Lampard has suffered in the same way due to them being too similar (in their role anyway). I think Gerrard is a better player though.

That was his good season. He came close to winning the Kraut League, Cup and CL and ended up second in all three but he shone in that team. Since then what has been his telling contribution? Germany didn't even get a win in Euro 2004 including a 0-0 draw with Latvia, and as Hansen pointed out in 2006 they were mediocre and stumbled in to the semi's where they were beaten by an equally mediocre Italy.

 

 

 

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Damn, this was awful. We were the far worse team for about 2/3 of the match and still luckily won it. That's German luck tbh.

 

Lahm did everything wrong and right. I'd kill the Turckish 'keeper personally tbh...

Individually we're head and shoulders better than the krauts, it's a crying shame that ginger bastard was ever given control of the England team.

 

The two centre halfs are astonishingly shite. The fundamental thing in football is passing the ball, both of them reminded me of Stephen Caldwell in this aspect.

 

 

The Krauts are underrated and Engurlad are vastly overrated. To say that Engurland is head and shoulders above them in any respect is complete trash.

 

How many of the German players would get in an England 11 ?

 

Only Ballack, Klose, Podolski and Lahm would have any chance. The rest are sub standard.

 

Lehmann is better than any English Keeper and Frings is better than any holding midfielder England has. Metzelder is also woth a shout, not to mention Schweinsteiger.

 

How many English players would make the German team is a more appropriate question.

You are a fuckin mug. Metzelder wouldn't be in the top 8 English centre halfs in my opinion. As for Lehman oh my god, leave you fucking cunt. I think he would probably admit himself he couldn't wipe James' arse, you could even put a case up for Harper being better, I've certainly not seen James or Harper drop two clangers in one game like he did last night. Frings oh dear.

 

 

 

You really haven`t got a clue, do you? David James is a joke..........and so is your knowledge of football.

James is class man. He's probably got a few issues with his big match temperament because his clangers tend to be high profile, which has led to him gaining a (unfair) reputation. Lehman is good keeper too fwiw.

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Damn, this was awful. We were the far worse team for about 2/3 of the match and still luckily won it. That's German luck tbh.

 

Lahm did everything wrong and right. I'd kill the Turckish 'keeper personally tbh...

Individually we're head and shoulders better than the krauts, it's a crying shame that ginger bastard was ever given control of the England team.

 

The two centre halfs are astonishingly shite. The fundamental thing in football is passing the ball, both of them reminded me of Stephen Caldwell in this aspect.

 

 

The Krauts are underrated and Engurlad are vastly overrated. To say that Engurland is head and shoulders above them in any respect is complete trash.

 

How many of the German players would get in an England 11 ?

 

Only Ballack, Klose, Podolski and Lahm would have any chance. The rest are sub standard.

 

Lehmann is better than any English Keeper and Frings is better than any holding midfielder England has. Metzelder is also woth a shout, not to mention Schweinsteiger.

 

How many English players would make the German team is a more appropriate question.

You are a fuckin mug. Metzelder wouldn't be in the top 8 English centre halfs in my opinion. As for Lehman oh my god, leave you fucking cunt. I think he would probably admit himself he couldn't wipe James' arse, you could even put a case up for Harper being better, I've certainly not seen James or Harper drop two clangers in one game like he did last night. Frings oh dear.

 

 

 

You really haven`t got a clue, do you? David James is a joke..........and so is your knowledge of football.

 

 

James >>>> Reina

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Damn, this was awful. We were the far worse team for about 2/3 of the match and still luckily won it. That's German luck tbh.

 

Lahm did everything wrong and right. I'd kill the Turckish 'keeper personally tbh...

Individually we're head and shoulders better than the krauts, it's a crying shame that ginger bastard was ever given control of the England team.

 

The two centre halfs are astonishingly shite. The fundamental thing in football is passing the ball, both of them reminded me of Stephen Caldwell in this aspect.

 

 

The Krauts are underrated and Engurlad are vastly overrated. To say that Engurland is head and shoulders above them in any respect is complete trash.

 

How many of the German players would get in an England 11 ?

 

Only Ballack, Klose, Podolski and Lahm would have any chance. The rest are sub standard.

 

Lehmann is better than any English Keeper and Frings is better than any holding midfielder England has. Metzelder is also woth a shout, not to mention Schweinsteiger.

 

How many English players would make the German team is a more appropriate question.

You are a fuckin mug. Metzelder wouldn't be in the top 8 English centre halfs in my opinion. As for Lehman oh my god, leave you fucking cunt. I think he would probably admit himself he couldn't wipe James' arse, you could even put a case up for Harper being better, I've certainly not seen James or Harper drop two clangers in one game like he did last night. Frings oh dear.

 

 

 

You really haven`t got a clue, do you? David James is a joke..........and so is your knowledge of football.

 

Lehmann was awful last night.

 

 

True. But He`s better than anything England have at the moment.

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Damn, this was awful. We were the far worse team for about 2/3 of the match and still luckily won it. That's German luck tbh.

 

Lahm did everything wrong and right. I'd kill the Turckish 'keeper personally tbh...

Individually we're head and shoulders better than the krauts, it's a crying shame that ginger bastard was ever given control of the England team.

 

The two centre halfs are astonishingly shite. The fundamental thing in football is passing the ball, both of them reminded me of Stephen Caldwell in this aspect.

 

 

The Krauts are underrated and Engurlad are vastly overrated. To say that Engurland is head and shoulders above them in any respect is complete trash.

 

How many of the German players would get in an England 11 ?

 

Only Ballack, Klose, Podolski and Lahm would have any chance. The rest are sub standard.

 

Lehmann is better than any English Keeper and Frings is better than any holding midfielder England has. Metzelder is also woth a shout, not to mention Schweinsteiger.

 

How many English players would make the German team is a more appropriate question.

You are a fuckin mug. Metzelder wouldn't be in the top 8 English centre halfs in my opinion. As for Lehman oh my god, leave you fucking cunt. I think he would probably admit himself he couldn't wipe James' arse, you could even put a case up for Harper being better, I've certainly not seen James or Harper drop two clangers in one game like he did last night. Frings oh dear.

 

 

 

You really haven`t got a clue, do you? David James is a joke..........and so is your knowledge of football.

 

 

James >>>> Reina

Reina isn't English though.

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Damn, this was awful. We were the far worse team for about 2/3 of the match and still luckily won it. That's German luck tbh.

 

Lahm did everything wrong and right. I'd kill the Turckish 'keeper personally tbh...

Individually we're head and shoulders better than the krauts, it's a crying shame that ginger bastard was ever given control of the England team.

 

The two centre halfs are astonishingly shite. The fundamental thing in football is passing the ball, both of them reminded me of Stephen Caldwell in this aspect.

 

 

The Krauts are underrated and Engurlad are vastly overrated. To say that Engurland is head and shoulders above them in any respect is complete trash.

 

How many of the German players would get in an England 11 ?

 

Only Ballack, Klose, Podolski and Lahm would have any chance. The rest are sub standard.

 

Lehmann is better than any English Keeper and Frings is better than any holding midfielder England has. Metzelder is also woth a shout, not to mention Schweinsteiger.

 

How many English players would make the German team is a more appropriate question.

You are a fuckin mug. Metzelder wouldn't be in the top 8 English centre halfs in my opinion. As for Lehman oh my god, leave you fucking cunt. I think he would probably admit himself he couldn't wipe James' arse, you could even put a case up for Harper being better, I've certainly not seen James or Harper drop two clangers in one game like he did last night. Frings oh dear.

 

 

 

You really haven`t got a clue, do you? David James is a joke..........and so is your knowledge of football.

 

 

James >>>> Reina

Reina isn't English though.

 

I know :icon_lol:

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Damn, this was awful. We were the far worse team for about 2/3 of the match and still luckily won it. That's German luck tbh.

 

Lahm did everything wrong and right. I'd kill the Turckish 'keeper personally tbh...

Individually we're head and shoulders better than the krauts, it's a crying shame that ginger bastard was ever given control of the England team.

 

The two centre halfs are astonishingly shite. The fundamental thing in football is passing the ball, both of them reminded me of Stephen Caldwell in this aspect.

 

 

The Krauts are underrated and Engurlad are vastly overrated. To say that Engurland is head and shoulders above them in any respect is complete trash.

 

How many of the German players would get in an England 11 ?

 

Only Ballack, Klose, Podolski and Lahm would have any chance. The rest are sub standard.

 

Lehmann is better than any English Keeper and Frings is better than any holding midfielder England has. Metzelder is also woth a shout, not to mention Schweinsteiger.

 

How many English players would make the German team is a more appropriate question.

You are a fuckin mug. Metzelder wouldn't be in the top 8 English centre halfs in my opinion. As for Lehman oh my god, leave you fucking cunt. I think he would probably admit himself he couldn't wipe James' arse, you could even put a case up for Harper being better, I've certainly not seen James or Harper drop two clangers in one game like he did last night. Frings oh dear.

 

 

 

You really haven`t got a clue, do you? David James is a joke..........and so is your knowledge of football.

 

 

James >>>> Reina

Reina isn't English though.

 

I know :icon_lol:

Then I don't see the relevance in your point.

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Hilarious stuff tbh. Demonstrates that the biggest problem of English football is probably the head up the own arse mentality. Too many people (players included) believe the SKY-generated hype.

 

It also shows that players shouldn't be judged on single performances to assess their strengths and weaknesses. For example to say that Lahm is piss poor defensively is ok based on last night's game, but totally wide of the mark when you judge his normal performances. Same for Mertesacker who is normally absolutely faultless and imho one of the most talented defenders in football at the moment. Parky couldn't spot a talented player when getting beaten with one though...

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Damn, this was awful. We were the far worse team for about 2/3 of the match and still luckily won it. That's German luck tbh.

 

Lahm did everything wrong and right. I'd kill the Turckish 'keeper personally tbh...

Individually we're head and shoulders better than the krauts, it's a crying shame that ginger bastard was ever given control of the England team.

 

The two centre halfs are astonishingly shite. The fundamental thing in football is passing the ball, both of them reminded me of Stephen Caldwell in this aspect.

 

 

The Krauts are underrated and Engurlad are vastly overrated. To say that Engurland is head and shoulders above them in any respect is complete trash.

 

How many of the German players would get in an England 11 ?

 

Only Ballack, Klose, Podolski and Lahm would have any chance. The rest are sub standard.

 

Lehmann is better than any English Keeper and Frings is better than any holding midfielder England has. Metzelder is also woth a shout, not to mention Schweinsteiger.

 

How many English players would make the German team is a more appropriate question.

You are a fuckin mug. Metzelder wouldn't be in the top 8 English centre halfs in my opinion. As for Lehman oh my god, leave you fucking cunt. I think he would probably admit himself he couldn't wipe James' arse, you could even put a case up for Harper being better, I've certainly not seen James or Harper drop two clangers in one game like he did last night. Frings oh dear.

 

 

 

You really haven`t got a clue, do you? David James is a joke..........and so is your knowledge of football.

 

 

James >>>> Reina

Reina isn't English though.

 

 

That explains Calamity James winning the golden gloves for the last three seasons then :icon_lol:

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