Guest Stevie Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Germany for the win in the final? Spain will beat Germany. Course they will. Germany are shite. Spain can only beat themselves now, but this old man is an idiot if he doesn't start Fabregas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Germany for the win in the final? Spain will beat Germany. Course they will. Germany are shite. Spain can only beat themselves now, but this old man is an idiot if he doesn't start Fabregas. Totally energised the play when he came on for Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Germany for the win in the final? Spain will beat Germany. Just like Germany was going to be beat by Hungary in 54, or the Dutch in 74, or England in 96 ? We'll see how good the German CD's are against Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Germany for the win in the final? Spain will beat Germany. Just like Germany was going to be beat by Hungary in 54, or the Dutch in 74, or England in 96 ? We'll see how good the German CD's are against Spain. If they were the toon centre halfs we'd moan, we really would, pure mince the pair of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Germany for the win in the final? Spain will beat Germany. Just like Germany was going to be beat by Hungary in 54, or the Dutch in 74, or England in 96 ? We'll see how good the German CD's are against Spain. If they were the toon centre halfs we'd moan, we really would, pure mince the pair of them. Metzelder hardly started a game for Madrid last year so perhaps a bit rusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I thought senna was excellent. i thought arshavin was poor. that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Iniesta was superb tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Iniesta was superb tonight He always is when I see him and never gets the praise he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosh 0 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Iniesta is the best player of the world, end off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Iniesta is the best player of the world, end off. Steady now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloopJohn 0 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 pirlo > iniesta but seriously. spain were awesome. and fabregas was fantastic. can't see them missing villa against the Gerries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosh 0 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Pirlo?? who the fuck is Pirlo?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15467 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Hurrah, the countries represented by the Grauniad's two best bloggers are in the final. My middle-class leftie heart beats happily tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9741 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Spain are of course the big favourites as they have been the most consistent team at the tournament so far. It will all depend if we are able to up our game again. A performance like against Portugal is needed. The pace of Torres could be a problem, hopefully Mertesacker rediscovers his normal form. Another performance like against Turkey and it will be an easy contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3353 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Spain are of course the big favourites as they have been the most consistent team at the tournament so far. It will all depend if we are able to up our game again. A performance like against Portugal is needed. The pace of Torres could be a problem, hopefully Mertesacker rediscovers his normal form. Another performance like against Turkey and it will be an easy contest. Villa being out is going to be a big loss to Spain. Russia's midfield let them down more than their defence, something that Germany won't have the same problem with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6550 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Spain are of course the big favourites as they have been the most consistent team at the tournament so far. It will all depend if we are able to up our game again. A performance like against Portugal is needed. The pace of Torres could be a problem, hopefully Mertesacker rediscovers his normal form. Another performance like against Turkey and it will be an easy contest. Villa being out is going to be a big loss to Spain. Russia's midfield let them down more than their defence, something that Germany won't have the same problem with. Im not sure Villa will be missed that much if Aragones plays Fabregas. He makes the team tick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3353 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Spain are of course the big favourites as they have been the most consistent team at the tournament so far. It will all depend if we are able to up our game again. A performance like against Portugal is needed. The pace of Torres could be a problem, hopefully Mertesacker rediscovers his normal form. Another performance like against Turkey and it will be an easy contest. Villa being out is going to be a big loss to Spain. Russia's midfield let them down more than their defence, something that Germany won't have the same problem with. Im not sure Villa will be missed that much if Aragones plays Fabregas. He makes the team tick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15467 Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 I see Fernando Torresofliverpool comprehensively outplayed Michael Ballackofchelsea. Was there a game on, by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30409 Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 What an excellent tournament and good to see that the winners come from the 1st/2nd strongest league in Europe, perhaps this indicates that the influx of foreign players has affected England the most and perhaps it is England's problem rather than Sepp Blatter's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10821 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 is it proof that their league's the strongest? or more that their managers weren't idiots from day one? Maybe that the tactics employed by the national coach got he best out of what was available, rather than picking players based on who has the biggest ego. Certaily don't think the Bundesliga is the second best league in Europe and I'd have to say I don't think the Spanish league is as good as it's made out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 is it proof that their league's the strongest? or more that their managers weren't idiots from day one? Maybe that the tactics employed by the national coach got he best out of what was available, rather than picking players based on who has the biggest ego. Certaily don't think the Bundesliga is the second best league in Europe and I'd have to say I don't think the Spanish league is as good as it's made out to be. No one's saying it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 What an excellent tournament and good to see that the winners come from the 1st/2nd strongest league in Europe, perhaps this indicates that the influx of foreign players has affected England the most and perhaps it is England's problem rather than Sepp Blatter's. Isn't England even worse than Germany? (although Germany excel at getting further than they should in tournaments) And isn't Spain one of the leagues with higher numbers of local players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9741 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Deserved win for Spain. They were the far better team and the most consistent team of the tournament anyway. One (+ a half) good game in a tournament are not good enough, so reaching the final means that we overachieved anyway. A bit disappointing that we couldn't build on the good game against Portugal. I can't understand why we let Turkey and Spain play their football. But going into the tournament with far too many players not being in form always meant that it would be difficult. The axis of Mertesacker - Ballack - Gomez was meant to have to carry other players, but instead they all grossly underperformed themselves. Germany have about 14-15 good player, who can play decent football (like against Portugal), but the depth of squad wasn't good enough to provide cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Deserved win for Spain. They were the far better team and the most consistent team of the tournament anyway. One (+ a half) good game in a tournament are not good enough, so reaching the final means that we overachieved anyway. A bit disappointing that we couldn't build on the good game against Portugal. I can't understand why we let Turkey and Spain play their football. But going into the tournament with far too many players not being in form always meant that it would be difficult. The axis of Mertesacker - Ballack - Gomez was meant to have to carry other players, but instead they all grossly underperformed themselves. Germany have about 14-15 good player, who can play decent football (like against Portugal), but the depth of squad wasn't good enough to provide cover. Shocking performance from Germany. A team with absolutely no ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Senna was class. Had a brilliant tournament. The benches of both teams last night weren't great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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