Big Brother 2008

[Glasgow Mag 0]

Nobody quite as annoying as this human chipmunk

 

[Jusoda Kid 1]

Glad the gangsta muslim is out, 'rat a tat tat, because i never hesitate to put a muslim on her back' © Big Brother

[Magma 0]

new housemate going into night.

 

edit:

 

Friday's show... the Alex interview and a NEW HOUSEMATE going in...

 

You've all been wondering what's going to happen on Friday night's show... so here's the lowdown.

 

You'll be able to see Davina's interview with Alex and what an interview it's going to be - we're on the edge of our seats!

 

Then get ready for a NEW housemate to enter the House - but who will they be? What impact will they have on the House? Keep checking back for more info...

 

You can watch the show on C4 at 9 - 10pm and 10:30 - 11:05pm.

 

It's not to be missed!

Edited June 20, 2008 by Magma

[Magma 0]

new housemate is Stuart, 25, a property devolper.

[Fop 1]

new housemate is Stuart, 25, a property devolper.

 

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

First impressions are he's a cunt.

[Happy Face 29]

new housemate is Stuart, 25, a property devolper.

 

 

 

Fair do's.

 

That's canny funny.

[Kid Dynamite 7312]

Mario, what the fuck mate!!! Seriously . . . .

[Gejon 2]

Mario, what the fuck mate!!! Seriously . . . .

 

 

Whats he doing now? Feeding the blind fella or something?

[Jusoda Kid 1]

Them sunglasses he wears are a disgrace

[Happy Face 29]

Stuart's arrival on Friday night turned out to be the body language equivalent of a swift metal toe-cap aimed direct into the groin of almost every male in the place. Up until friday the hierarchy of the house males was flimsy but holding, with the pecking order composed of Mario taking care of more passive Alpha duties (staying well clear of conflict and happily grooming his mate instead, by squeezing her nose-pores or going at her with his exfoliating mitt in the Bathroom).

 

Meanwhile Rex got stuck into the more shouty leadership stuff and Dale - the only man in the world who could cry over the fact that he's so beautiful! - remained unchallenged in the male centrefold department.

 

In purely animal terms any new male arriving on their patch would always be seen initially as a threat to sexual prowess, vanity and/or status levels, and without some early ingratiation rituals Stuart's appearance would always be viewed as an invasion.

 

Stuart's body language signals on arrival were therefore vital for his survival. Stuart ideally needed to perform some speedy signals of submission to the dominant blokes before any integration could take place. (This is why our greeting rituals are so important and why Dale later complained that he knew Stuart didn't like him from the way he greeted him and how he looked away when he did. Distracted greetings like this are an insult to the person being greeted.)

 

With a display of bravado and confidence that was breathtaking (and even bordering on the suicidal), Stuart sidestepped the house pecking order by 'cutting' all the dominant males in the colony. He used dominant rather than submissive body language displays on arrival, and not only invaded their territory and space but snaffled two of the colony's most desirable females (Jennifer and Sylvia) right from under their noses.

 

 

 

SPRAYING THE TERRITORY

 

Stuart's status signals increased after his arrival. His chest puffed up when he finally did speak to the guys, and his talent for spatial dominance began to show itself. While the guys gathered to meet him and check him out for their approval, he walked straight off and into one of their bedrooms without being invited or even hosted, an act of territorial invasion that would have ensured an instant and possibly fatal attack if he'd been in an ape colony.

 

Alphas like Rex were left chasing after him to protect their space, rather than leading/hosting him.

 

All these territorial and status 'slapping-down' signals gained a very swift response from team Mario. First Lisa moved in as advanced guard with a solid eye-stare and a smile so rigid it would have held fast in a force-ten gale. Then Mario himself cut in, circling Stuart wearing a stretched social smile with full tooth display as he honed in on his prey.

 

In ape terms a slight curling back of the lips would register appeasement, but a full tooth-baring like this is a gesture of pseudo-aggressive arousal, performed to threaten an opponent to make them back down. Despite these warning signals though, when the housemates finally gathered together in the Living Area, Stuart still took Alpha position at the top of the group, positioning himself opposite Super-Mario, which was a direct challenge to his parental-style authority.

 

SEXUAL DOMINANCE

 

To add to the male levels of distress, both Jennifer and Sylvia endorsed the instant sexual challenge by bombarding Stuart with their own approval signals, repeatedly sharing delighted-looking eye-flashes before giggling and flirting together and following Stuart around performing hair-touches and mouth-licking rituals to register attraction. Sylvia even sprayed scent on herself in a very obvious and open manner in an overt Intentional Gesture.

 

Probably the biggest sexual slap in the face to the existing males came when Stuart performed a very emphatic phallic crotch-grab display ritual with the high-desirable females that would have registered as a celebratory boast (or even victory roll, suggesting sexual ownership.) This occurred when he was walking in the Garden with Jen and Sylvia and in full sight of the guys who were watching impotently from the Ashtray.

 

His metronomic gestures intensified, showing strong symptoms of anxiety arousal. When Jennifer did finally return briefly to his side he continued the gesture by wiggling his glass between his legs while holding one hand in his jeans pocket, protecting rather than displaying his crotch, signalling a specific need for reassurance from Jen, who was sitting right in front of him.

 

This was a cry for sexual attention in the face of Stuart's crotch-based ownership signals, and a sexually approving glance from Jen would have re-booted his sexual status. She didn't give it to him though, so he was forced to start looking to the others instead, getting group sympathy and a sympathetic pat and stroke from Sylvia in the Garden.

 

IN-GROUP FIGHT-BACK

 

The most telling response to all these dominance displays came when Bex flashed her breasts through the window at Stuart and the two girls. This pseudo-animal ritual registered as the first physical signals of an existing group fight-back. Their first attack on Stuart was passive, i.e. the slighted housemates' conspiracy theory (again led by Bex in Miss Marple role) about Stuart being a 'plant'.

 

Things really came to a 'warrior-style' head while he walked in the Garden with the girls, though. If you listen to the other housemates egging Bex on to flash at them, their actions and noises are similar to a colony of over-agitated apes in a state of aggressive arousal.

 

Bex's flashing was pseudo-aggressive bravado, with the bared-body display intended to show Stuart that her group refuse to accept him as either a sexual predator or a leadership threat. Sexual body displays like this are all about registering control. It was even more telling that the Alpha males were yelling at Bex to 'Get yer guns out!', underlining the 'attack' symbolism of this gesture.

 

CHARM/SMARM OFFENSIVE? Stuart's arrival both threatened the house and undermined its confidence and hierarchy. But Stuart himself appears to be a peaceful kind of mischief-maker, someone who will wind people up but avoid outright hostility and conflict. So far the battles have been symbolic rather than overt, and I think Stuart's charm and ability to ingratiate and be popular when he wants to should mean he'll shake the group up but without compromising his own position as Alex did.

 

WILL 'ELECTRA' POWER BE STUART'S DOWNFALL?

 

I think Stuart's biggest problem could be that he was so busy challenging the males that he has overlooked the very strong female hierarchy in the house. Sylvia has always shown signs of a desire for control, and Jennifer has registered a dislike of being led by males (her very assertive chat to Mario regarding parental authority was one of the most comprehensive verbal pastings he has received to date).

 

Sylvia marked Stuart out as her own territory via touches and eye-flashes as soon as he arrived and -- with Jennifer already paired with Dale -- this should have maintained what is a necessary peace between the two dominant females. However Stuart rebuffed Sylvia in bed on the first night and currently shows signs of hanging around Jennifer, forcing Sylvia to move closer to Dale to avoid losing face.

 

Sylvia has made several moves on Stuart and I think he has underestimated her power in the house. Her fight with Mohamed last night was all about reminding him she's a dangerous enemy, but Stuart hasn't shown signs of taking the hint. Now he's rejected her he needs to ingratiate himself with the male alphas ASAP, or he'll find himself a vulnerable target.

 

Otherwise, Jennifer having the luxury option of the two most desirable males in the colony would be unimaginably unfair and a direct attack on Sylvia's status. If Stuart continues to flirt with Jen and rebuff Sylvia it could lead to building resentments between the two Alpha females, leading to genuine group instability, with long-ranging repercussions for the entire colony. If these two Alpha females ever do go to war, the effects will genuinely undermine the group.

 

It's shocking that they don't do the psycholgy show any more. I love this shit.

[Fop 1]

Stuart's arrival on Friday night turned out to be the body language equivalent of a swift metal toe-cap aimed direct into the groin of almost every male in the place. Up until friday the hierarchy of the house males was flimsy but holding, with the pecking order composed of Mario taking care of more passive Alpha duties (staying well clear of conflict and happily grooming his mate instead, by squeezing her nose-pores or going at her with his exfoliating mitt in the Bathroom).

 

Meanwhile Rex got stuck into the more shouty leadership stuff and Dale - the only man in the world who could cry over the fact that he's so beautiful! - remained unchallenged in the male centrefold department.

 

In purely animal terms any new male arriving on their patch would always be seen initially as a threat to sexual prowess, vanity and/or status levels, and without some early ingratiation rituals Stuart's appearance would always be viewed as an invasion.

 

Stuart's body language signals on arrival were therefore vital for his survival. Stuart ideally needed to perform some speedy signals of submission to the dominant blokes before any integration could take place. (This is why our greeting rituals are so important and why Dale later complained that he knew Stuart didn't like him from the way he greeted him and how he looked away when he did. Distracted greetings like this are an insult to the person being greeted.)

 

With a display of bravado and confidence that was breathtaking (and even bordering on the suicidal), Stuart sidestepped the house pecking order by 'cutting' all the dominant males in the colony. He used dominant rather than submissive body language displays on arrival, and not only invaded their territory and space but snaffled two of the colony's most desirable females (Jennifer and Sylvia) right from under their noses.

 

 

 

SPRAYING THE TERRITORY

 

Stuart's status signals increased after his arrival. His chest puffed up when he finally did speak to the guys, and his talent for spatial dominance began to show itself. While the guys gathered to meet him and check him out for their approval, he walked straight off and into one of their bedrooms without being invited or even hosted, an act of territorial invasion that would have ensured an instant and possibly fatal attack if he'd been in an ape colony.

 

Alphas like Rex were left chasing after him to protect their space, rather than leading/hosting him.

 

All these territorial and status 'slapping-down' signals gained a very swift response from team Mario. First Lisa moved in as advanced guard with a solid eye-stare and a smile so rigid it would have held fast in a force-ten gale. Then Mario himself cut in, circling Stuart wearing a stretched social smile with full tooth display as he honed in on his prey.

 

In ape terms a slight curling back of the lips would register appeasement, but a full tooth-baring like this is a gesture of pseudo-aggressive arousal, performed to threaten an opponent to make them back down. Despite these warning signals though, when the housemates finally gathered together in the Living Area, Stuart still took Alpha position at the top of the group, positioning himself opposite Super-Mario, which was a direct challenge to his parental-style authority.

 

SEXUAL DOMINANCE

 

To add to the male levels of distress, both Jennifer and Sylvia endorsed the instant sexual challenge by bombarding Stuart with their own approval signals, repeatedly sharing delighted-looking eye-flashes before giggling and flirting together and following Stuart around performing hair-touches and mouth-licking rituals to register attraction. Sylvia even sprayed scent on herself in a very obvious and open manner in an overt Intentional Gesture.

 

Probably the biggest sexual slap in the face to the existing males came when Stuart performed a very emphatic phallic crotch-grab display ritual with the high-desirable females that would have registered as a celebratory boast (or even victory roll, suggesting sexual ownership.) This occurred when he was walking in the Garden with Jen and Sylvia and in full sight of the guys who were watching impotently from the Ashtray.

 

His metronomic gestures intensified, showing strong symptoms of anxiety arousal. When Jennifer did finally return briefly to his side he continued the gesture by wiggling his glass between his legs while holding one hand in his jeans pocket, protecting rather than displaying his crotch, signalling a specific need for reassurance from Jen, who was sitting right in front of him.

 

This was a cry for sexual attention in the face of Stuart's crotch-based ownership signals, and a sexually approving glance from Jen would have re-booted his sexual status. She didn't give it to him though, so he was forced to start looking to the others instead, getting group sympathy and a sympathetic pat and stroke from Sylvia in the Garden.

 

IN-GROUP FIGHT-BACK

 

The most telling response to all these dominance displays came when Bex flashed her breasts through the window at Stuart and the two girls. This pseudo-animal ritual registered as the first physical signals of an existing group fight-back. Their first attack on Stuart was passive, i.e. the slighted housemates' conspiracy theory (again led by Bex in Miss Marple role) about Stuart being a 'plant'.

 

Things really came to a 'warrior-style' head while he walked in the Garden with the girls, though. If you listen to the other housemates egging Bex on to flash at them, their actions and noises are similar to a colony of over-agitated apes in a state of aggressive arousal.

 

Bex's flashing was pseudo-aggressive bravado, with the bared-body display intended to show Stuart that her group refuse to accept him as either a sexual predator or a leadership threat. Sexual body displays like this are all about registering control. It was even more telling that the Alpha males were yelling at Bex to 'Get yer guns out!', underlining the 'attack' symbolism of this gesture.

 

CHARM/SMARM OFFENSIVE? Stuart's arrival both threatened the house and undermined its confidence and hierarchy. But Stuart himself appears to be a peaceful kind of mischief-maker, someone who will wind people up but avoid outright hostility and conflict. So far the battles have been symbolic rather than overt, and I think Stuart's charm and ability to ingratiate and be popular when he wants to should mean he'll shake the group up but without compromising his own position as Alex did.

 

WILL 'ELECTRA' POWER BE STUART'S DOWNFALL?

 

I think Stuart's biggest problem could be that he was so busy challenging the males that he has overlooked the very strong female hierarchy in the house. Sylvia has always shown signs of a desire for control, and Jennifer has registered a dislike of being led by males (her very assertive chat to Mario regarding parental authority was one of the most comprehensive verbal pastings he has received to date).

 

Sylvia marked Stuart out as her own territory via touches and eye-flashes as soon as he arrived and -- with Jennifer already paired with Dale -- this should have maintained what is a necessary peace between the two dominant females. However Stuart rebuffed Sylvia in bed on the first night and currently shows signs of hanging around Jennifer, forcing Sylvia to move closer to Dale to avoid losing face.

 

Sylvia has made several moves on Stuart and I think he has underestimated her power in the house. Her fight with Mohamed last night was all about reminding him she's a dangerous enemy, but Stuart hasn't shown signs of taking the hint. Now he's rejected her he needs to ingratiate himself with the male alphas ASAP, or he'll find himself a vulnerable target.

 

Otherwise, Jennifer having the luxury option of the two most desirable males in the colony would be unimaginably unfair and a direct attack on Sylvia's status. If Stuart continues to flirt with Jen and rebuff Sylvia it could lead to building resentments between the two Alpha females, leading to genuine group instability, with long-ranging repercussions for the entire colony. If these two Alpha females ever do go to war, the effects will genuinely undermine the group.

 

It's shocking that they don't do the psycholgy show any more. I love this shit.

 

In all honestly whilst there maybe the odd grain of truth, most of that is what's technically referred to as psycho-babble or in layman's terms.

[Happy Face 29]

Stuart's arrival on Friday night turned out to be the body language equivalent of a swift metal toe-cap aimed direct into the groin of almost every male in the place. Up until friday the hierarchy of the house males was flimsy but holding, with the pecking order composed of Mario taking care of more passive Alpha duties (staying well clear of conflict and happily grooming his mate instead, by squeezing her nose-pores or going at her with his exfoliating mitt in the Bathroom).

 

Meanwhile Rex got stuck into the more shouty leadership stuff and Dale - the only man in the world who could cry over the fact that he's so beautiful! - remained unchallenged in the male centrefold department.

 

In purely animal terms any new male arriving on their patch would always be seen initially as a threat to sexual prowess, vanity and/or status levels, and without some early ingratiation rituals Stuart's appearance would always be viewed as an invasion.

 

Stuart's body language signals on arrival were therefore vital for his survival. Stuart ideally needed to perform some speedy signals of submission to the dominant blokes before any integration could take place. (This is why our greeting rituals are so important and why Dale later complained that he knew Stuart didn't like him from the way he greeted him and how he looked away when he did. Distracted greetings like this are an insult to the person being greeted.)

 

With a display of bravado and confidence that was breathtaking (and even bordering on the suicidal), Stuart sidestepped the house pecking order by 'cutting' all the dominant males in the colony. He used dominant rather than submissive body language displays on arrival, and not only invaded their territory and space but snaffled two of the colony's most desirable females (Jennifer and Sylvia) right from under their noses.

 

 

 

SPRAYING THE TERRITORY

 

Stuart's status signals increased after his arrival. His chest puffed up when he finally did speak to the guys, and his talent for spatial dominance began to show itself. While the guys gathered to meet him and check him out for their approval, he walked straight off and into one of their bedrooms without being invited or even hosted, an act of territorial invasion that would have ensured an instant and possibly fatal attack if he'd been in an ape colony.

 

Alphas like Rex were left chasing after him to protect their space, rather than leading/hosting him.

 

All these territorial and status 'slapping-down' signals gained a very swift response from team Mario. First Lisa moved in as advanced guard with a solid eye-stare and a smile so rigid it would have held fast in a force-ten gale. Then Mario himself cut in, circling Stuart wearing a stretched social smile with full tooth display as he honed in on his prey.

 

In ape terms a slight curling back of the lips would register appeasement, but a full tooth-baring like this is a gesture of pseudo-aggressive arousal, performed to threaten an opponent to make them back down. Despite these warning signals though, when the housemates finally gathered together in the Living Area, Stuart still took Alpha position at the top of the group, positioning himself opposite Super-Mario, which was a direct challenge to his parental-style authority.

 

SEXUAL DOMINANCE

 

To add to the male levels of distress, both Jennifer and Sylvia endorsed the instant sexual challenge by bombarding Stuart with their own approval signals, repeatedly sharing delighted-looking eye-flashes before giggling and flirting together and following Stuart around performing hair-touches and mouth-licking rituals to register attraction. Sylvia even sprayed scent on herself in a very obvious and open manner in an overt Intentional Gesture.

 

Probably the biggest sexual slap in the face to the existing males came when Stuart performed a very emphatic phallic crotch-grab display ritual with the high-desirable females that would have registered as a celebratory boast (or even victory roll, suggesting sexual ownership.) This occurred when he was walking in the Garden with Jen and Sylvia and in full sight of the guys who were watching impotently from the Ashtray.

 

His metronomic gestures intensified, showing strong symptoms of anxiety arousal. When Jennifer did finally return briefly to his side he continued the gesture by wiggling his glass between his legs while holding one hand in his jeans pocket, protecting rather than displaying his crotch, signalling a specific need for reassurance from Jen, who was sitting right in front of him.

 

This was a cry for sexual attention in the face of Stuart's crotch-based ownership signals, and a sexually approving glance from Jen would have re-booted his sexual status. She didn't give it to him though, so he was forced to start looking to the others instead, getting group sympathy and a sympathetic pat and stroke from Sylvia in the Garden.

 

IN-GROUP FIGHT-BACK

 

The most telling response to all these dominance displays came when Bex flashed her breasts through the window at Stuart and the two girls. This pseudo-animal ritual registered as the first physical signals of an existing group fight-back. Their first attack on Stuart was passive, i.e. the slighted housemates' conspiracy theory (again led by Bex in Miss Marple role) about Stuart being a 'plant'.

 

Things really came to a 'warrior-style' head while he walked in the Garden with the girls, though. If you listen to the other housemates egging Bex on to flash at them, their actions and noises are similar to a colony of over-agitated apes in a state of aggressive arousal.

 

Bex's flashing was pseudo-aggressive bravado, with the bared-body display intended to show Stuart that her group refuse to accept him as either a sexual predator or a leadership threat. Sexual body displays like this are all about registering control. It was even more telling that the Alpha males were yelling at Bex to 'Get yer guns out!', underlining the 'attack' symbolism of this gesture.

 

CHARM/SMARM OFFENSIVE? Stuart's arrival both threatened the house and undermined its confidence and hierarchy. But Stuart himself appears to be a peaceful kind of mischief-maker, someone who will wind people up but avoid outright hostility and conflict. So far the battles have been symbolic rather than overt, and I think Stuart's charm and ability to ingratiate and be popular when he wants to should mean he'll shake the group up but without compromising his own position as Alex did.

 

WILL 'ELECTRA' POWER BE STUART'S DOWNFALL?

 

I think Stuart's biggest problem could be that he was so busy challenging the males that he has overlooked the very strong female hierarchy in the house. Sylvia has always shown signs of a desire for control, and Jennifer has registered a dislike of being led by males (her very assertive chat to Mario regarding parental authority was one of the most comprehensive verbal pastings he has received to date).

 

Sylvia marked Stuart out as her own territory via touches and eye-flashes as soon as he arrived and -- with Jennifer already paired with Dale -- this should have maintained what is a necessary peace between the two dominant females. However Stuart rebuffed Sylvia in bed on the first night and currently shows signs of hanging around Jennifer, forcing Sylvia to move closer to Dale to avoid losing face.

 

Sylvia has made several moves on Stuart and I think he has underestimated her power in the house. Her fight with Mohamed last night was all about reminding him she's a dangerous enemy, but Stuart hasn't shown signs of taking the hint. Now he's rejected her he needs to ingratiate himself with the male alphas ASAP, or he'll find himself a vulnerable target.

 

Otherwise, Jennifer having the luxury option of the two most desirable males in the colony would be unimaginably unfair and a direct attack on Sylvia's status. If Stuart continues to flirt with Jen and rebuff Sylvia it could lead to building resentments between the two Alpha females, leading to genuine group instability, with long-ranging repercussions for the entire colony. If these two Alpha females ever do go to war, the effects will genuinely undermine the group.

 

It's shocking that they don't do the psycholgy show any more. I love this shit.

 

In all honestly whilst there maybe the odd grain of truth, most of that is what's technically referred to as psycho-babble or in layman's terms.

 

Do you mean body language as a subject is mostly psychobabble, or that this particular person's interpretation of the housemates body language is psychobabble?

[Happy Face 29]

It all kicked off last night. They were spitting in each others faces. Apparently E4 was taken off the air.

 

[Besty 4]

http://bigbrotherblog.spaces.live.com/

 

Read the top article.

[Holden McGroin 6917]

Good point about Jen.

 

Why would a single parent that wants to be a mid wife leave her young child for 3-4 months, if not for fame??

[Fop 1]

Do you mean body language as a subject is mostly psychobabble, or that this particular person's interpretation of the housemates body language is psychobabble?

 

The latter mainly, although the former to the degree it's being taken there.

 

I don't know where you got it from, but if they aren't making money for writing a story then they probably should spend more time looking at themselves.

[Happy Face 29]

Do you mean body language as a subject is mostly psychobabble, or that this particular person's interpretation of the housemates body language is psychobabble?

 

The latter mainly, although the former to the degree it's being taken there.

 

I don't know where you got it from, but if they aren't making money for writing a story then they probably should spend more time looking at themselves.

 

It's from a Body Language expert who's written 6 books on the subject and who I'd assume was paid for the article too.

 

If you don't watch the show yourself, I don't see how you can call her interpretations psychobabble/shit, while also conceding body language has at least some degree of creditability*. For me, as a viewer, she has the house heirarchy spot on.

 

*Most experts would agree that at least half of communication is non-verbal.

[ewerk 31587]

Is Dennis the wee Scottish poof? Surprised he didn't get smacked after spitting in someone's face, fucking disgusting that.

[Fop 1]

Do you mean body language as a subject is mostly psychobabble, or that this particular person's interpretation of the housemates body language is psychobabble?

 

The latter mainly, although the former to the degree it's being taken there.

 

I don't know where you got it from, but if they aren't making money for writing a story then they probably should spend more time looking at themselves.

 

It's from a Body Language expert who's written 6 books on the subject and who I'd assume was paid for the article too.

 

If you don't watch the show yourself, I don't see how you can call her interpretations psychobabble/shit, while also conceding body language has at least some degree of creditability*. For me, as a viewer, she has the house heirarchy spot on.

 

*Most experts would agree that at least half of communication is non-verbal.

 

 

Aye, there we go then, it's like asking a used car salesman about the merits of that particular model.

 

 

I'm not saying that body language is bollocks (it isn't - but it's hard enough to get signals right in far more simple contexts and with more simple organisms), but that person is writing a story there and then making things up (that sound good) to support the story, it's no different from reading a book from some "diet expert" on the latest fad diet, it sounds sexy and convincing....... but then it's supposed to sound like that to sell (directly or indirectly).

 

 

The irony here is the psychology around the article is much more real than the psychology in the article.

[Guest alex]

They should get Raj Persaud on.

[Happy Face 29]

Do you mean body language as a subject is mostly psychobabble, or that this particular person's interpretation of the housemates body language is psychobabble?

 

The latter mainly, although the former to the degree it's being taken there.

 

I don't know where you got it from, but if they aren't making money for writing a story then they probably should spend more time looking at themselves.

 

It's from a Body Language expert who's written 6 books on the subject and who I'd assume was paid for the article too.

 

If you don't watch the show yourself, I don't see how you can call her interpretations psychobabble/shit, while also conceding body language has at least some degree of creditability*. For me, as a viewer, she has the house heirarchy spot on.

 

*Most experts would agree that at least half of communication is non-verbal.

 

 

Aye, there we go then, it's like asking a used car salesman about the merits of that particular model.

 

 

I'm not saying that body language is bollocks (it isn't - but it's hard enough to get signals right in far more simple contexts and with more simple organisms), but that person is writing a story there and then making things up (that sound good) to support the story, it's no different from reading a book from some "diet expert" on the latest fad diet, it sounds sexy and convincing....... but then it's supposed to sound like that to sell (directly or indirectly).

 

 

The irony here is the psychology around the article is much more real than the psychology in the article.

 

You haven't seen the car for yourself though, so everything the salesman is saying might be spot on.

[Fop 1]

Do you mean body language as a subject is mostly psychobabble, or that this particular person's interpretation of the housemates body language is psychobabble?

 

The latter mainly, although the former to the degree it's being taken there.

 

I don't know where you got it from, but if they aren't making money for writing a story then they probably should spend more time looking at themselves.

 

It's from a Body Language expert who's written 6 books on the subject and who I'd assume was paid for the article too.

 

If you don't watch the show yourself, I don't see how you can call her interpretations psychobabble/shit, while also conceding body language has at least some degree of creditability*. For me, as a viewer, she has the house heirarchy spot on.

 

*Most experts would agree that at least half of communication is non-verbal.

 

 

Aye, there we go then, it's like asking a used car salesman about the merits of that particular model.

 

 

I'm not saying that body language is bollocks (it isn't - but it's hard enough to get signals right in far more simple contexts and with more simple organisms), but that person is writing a story there and then making things up (that sound good) to support the story, it's no different from reading a book from some "diet expert" on the latest fad diet, it sounds sexy and convincing....... but then it's supposed to sound like that to sell (directly or indirectly).

 

 

The irony here is the psychology around the article is much more real than the psychology in the article.

 

You haven't seen the car for yourself though, so everything the salesman is saying might be spot on.

 

 

True, but that would be down to luck rather than judgement (as in this case).

 

I dunno I won't convince you I guess, but maybe you'd be better off reading some of the drier more academic books on this, then you'll see that this has far more of the elixir salesman about it than scientific research.

[Happy Face 29]

Do you mean body language as a subject is mostly psychobabble, or that this particular person's interpretation of the housemates body language is psychobabble?

 

The latter mainly, although the former to the degree it's being taken there.

 

I don't know where you got it from, but if they aren't making money for writing a story then they probably should spend more time looking at themselves.

 

It's from a Body Language expert who's written 6 books on the subject and who I'd assume was paid for the article too.

 

If you don't watch the show yourself, I don't see how you can call her interpretations psychobabble/shit, while also conceding body language has at least some degree of creditability*. For me, as a viewer, she has the house heirarchy spot on.

 

*Most experts would agree that at least half of communication is non-verbal.

 

 

Aye, there we go then, it's like asking a used car salesman about the merits of that particular model.

 

 

I'm not saying that body language is bollocks (it isn't - but it's hard enough to get signals right in far more simple contexts and with more simple organisms), but that person is writing a story there and then making things up (that sound good) to support the story, it's no different from reading a book from some "diet expert" on the latest fad diet, it sounds sexy and convincing....... but then it's supposed to sound like that to sell (directly or indirectly).

 

 

The irony here is the psychology around the article is much more real than the psychology in the article.

 

You haven't seen the car for yourself though, so everything the salesman is saying might be spot on.

 

 

True, but that would be down to luck rather than judgement (as in this case).

 

I dunno I won't convince you I guess, but maybe you'd be better off reading some of the drier more academic books on this, then you'll see that this has far more of the elixir salesman about it than scientific research.

 

 

Do the drier academic books have people spitting in each others faces and threatening each other with gang retribution?

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Do you mean body language as a subject is mostly psychobabble, or that this particular person's interpretation of the housemates body language is psychobabble?

 

The latter mainly, although the former to the degree it's being taken there.

 

I don't know where you got it from, but if they aren't making money for writing a story then they probably should spend more time looking at themselves.

 

It's from a Body Language expert who's written 6 books on the subject and who I'd assume was paid for the article too.

 

If you don't watch the show yourself, I don't see how you can call her interpretations psychobabble/shit, while also conceding body language has at least some degree of creditability*. For me, as a viewer, she has the house heirarchy spot on.

 

*Most experts would agree that at least half of communication is non-verbal.

 

 

Aye, there we go then, it's like asking a used car salesman about the merits of that particular model.

 

 

I'm not saying that body language is bollocks (it isn't - but it's hard enough to get signals right in far more simple contexts and with more simple organisms), but that person is writing a story there and then making things up (that sound good) to support the story, it's no different from reading a book from some "diet expert" on the latest fad diet, it sounds sexy and convincing....... but then it's supposed to sound like that to sell (directly or indirectly).

 

 

The irony here is the psychology around the article is much more real than the psychology in the article.

 

You haven't seen the car for yourself though, so everything the salesman is saying might be spot on.

 

 

True, but that would be down to luck rather than judgement (as in this case).

 

I dunno I won't convince you I guess, but maybe you'd be better off reading some of the drier more academic books on this, then you'll see that this has far more of the elixir salesman about it than scientific research.

 

 

Do the drier academic books have people spitting in each others faces and threatening each other with gang retribution?

 

No, but that's exactly the point. Hucksters know what sells, look at mediums.