Isegrim 9906 Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 (edited) i think n'zogbia should start ahead of barton or geremi in the current formation but keegan is probably right not to change things while we're winning. he should definitely be given a new contract....one of the few players we've got with pace and the ability to run at defenders I'm a big fan of N'Zogbia and would like us to hang on to him as I still think he is an exceptional talent. But Barton and Geremi are better suited to the current formation with their defensive and positional abilities. N'Zogbia has been best used wide left so far. I reckon he could do a very good job behind the strikers without many defensive duties, but failed to impress most times he played there. That's why Owen is the best option we do have for it at the moment. Edit: Or in short words: As alex already said. Edited March 31, 2008 by Isegrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 i think n'zogbia should start ahead of barton or geremi in the current formation but keegan is probably right not to change things while we're winning. he should definitely be given a new contract....one of the few players we've got with pace and the ability to run at defenders I'm a big fan of N'Zogbia and would like us to hang on to him as I still think he is an exceptional talent. But Barton and Geremi are better suited to the current formation with their defensive and positional abilities. N'Zogbia has been best used wide left so far. I reckon he could do a very good job behind the strikers without many defensive duties, but failed to impress most times he played there. That's why Owen is the best option we do have for it at the moment. Edit: Or in short words: As alex already said. unusually inefficient of you Isegrim. I think if the Zog can be patient, we'll change our system for next year. This formation strikes me as a marriage of convenience, not Keegans preferred style of play. It's playing what he can with his best players/performers. Next season we may revert to a 442, or maybe an altered 451 or who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Next season we may revert to a 442, or maybe an altered 451 or who knows? I'm still thinking 2-4-4, or maybe 0-4-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 (edited) i think n'zogbia should start ahead of barton or geremi in the current formation but keegan is probably right not to change things while we're winning. he should definitely be given a new contract....one of the few players we've got with pace and the ability to run at defenders I'm a big fan of N'Zogbia and would like us to hang on to him as I still think he is an exceptional talent. But Barton and Geremi are better suited to the current formation with their defensive and positional abilities. N'Zogbia has been best used wide left so far. I reckon he could do a very good job behind the strikers without many defensive duties, but failed to impress most times he played there. That's why Owen is the best option we do have for it at the moment. Edit: Or in short words: As alex already said. unusually inefficient of you Isegrim. I think if the Zog can be patient, we'll change our system for next year. This formation strikes me as a marriage of convenience, not Keegans preferred style of play. It's playing what he can with his best players/performers. Next season we may revert to a 442, or maybe an altered 451 or who knows? I agree, whilst Keegan deserves alot of credit for seeing this and switching to it to great effect and thought of the completely different use of Owen, i imagine with his own signings we'll see more 4-4-2 than 4-3-3, but maybe he'll be tempted to use both when he sees fit. Or we could go with my preferred choice of 3-5-2 that always works! Edited March 31, 2008 by Papa Lazaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Or we could go with my preferred choice of 3-5-2 that always works! We all know you're biased on this subject. After all, the 3-5-2 is only second to footballing officiating bodies in your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloopJohn 0 Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 does anyone think the nations criticism of McClaren's use of the 3-5-2 vs. Croatia ridiculous? Bilic said himself that is was the strongest he'd seen England play before that Robinson gaff. on topic, N'Zogbia has huge potential, but he needs to learn to use his attributes more effectively and not be as wasteful on the ball. in fact, he reminds me of a lot Theo Walcott, if a little more rounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 does anyone think the nations criticism of McClaren's use of the 3-5-2 vs. Croatia ridiculous? Bilic said himself that is was the strongest he'd seen England play before that Robinson gaff. on topic, N'Zogbia has huge potential, but he needs to learn to use his attributes more effectively and not be as wasteful on the ball. in fact, he reminds me of a lot Theo Walcott, if a little more rounded. the only thing that Charles N'Zogbia needs is good management. Makes me laugh when people say we should get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 does anyone think the nations criticism of McClaren's use of the 3-5-2 vs. Croatia ridiculous? Bilic said himself that is was the strongest he'd seen England play before that Robinson gaff. on topic, N'Zogbia has huge potential, but he needs to learn to use his attributes more effectively and not be as wasteful on the ball. in fact, he reminds me of a lot Theo Walcott, if a little more rounded. the only thing that Charles N'Zogbia needs is good management. Makes me laugh when people say we should get rid of him. I don't think very many are saying 'get rid' it's just that people realise there isn't much you can do if he really wants to go (other than cutting your nose off to spite your face, i.e. leaving him to rot in the reserves). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22182 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 i would prefer n'zogbia playing as the left sided central midfielder in keegan's new 4-3-3 formation than barton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 If I was doing that I'd probably still play Barton and drop Geremi or Butt (with Geremi playing in front of the back four if the latter was dropped). I don't think KK will change a winning team unless he has to though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 i would prefer n'zogbia playing as the left sided central midfielder in keegan's new 4-3-3 formation than barton I don't see the point of changing a winning team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9906 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 i would prefer n'zogbia playing as the left sided central midfielder in keegan's new 4-3-3 formation than barton I don't see the point of changing a winning team. There has to be something he can be not happy with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31221 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I don't think very many are saying 'get rid' it's just that people realise there isn't much you can do if he really wants to go (other than cutting your nose off to spite your face, i.e. leaving him to rot in the reserves). As much as I agree that it may be a case of cutting your nose off if we were in a position to do it then it may make other players think twice before sulking in the future (that's assuming that he is sulking, I don't know all the facts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I don't think very many are saying 'get rid' it's just that people realise there isn't much you can do if he really wants to go (other than cutting your nose off to spite your face, i.e. leaving him to rot in the reserves). As much as I agree that it may be a case of cutting your nose off if we were in a position to do it then it may make other players think twice before sulking in the future (that's assuming that he is sulking, I don't know all the facts). Just dose the fucker with vast amounts of valium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 A few years back I thought Zoggy would turn into a really special player but it hasnt happend, maybe down to some shitty managers. There are a lot better out there and if we can get a good price for him and KK can bring in a class replacement I wouldnt be that fussed if he did go, If his hearts not in it then performances will suffer and we will need everyone to give 100% next season, KK will expect nothing less and if we want success everyone needs to be focused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 i think n'zogbia should start ahead of barton or geremi in the current formation but keegan is probably right not to change things while we're winning. he should definitely be given a new contract....one of the few players we've got with pace and the ability to run at defenders I'm a big fan of N'Zogbia and would like us to hang on to him as I still think he is an exceptional talent. But Barton and Geremi are better suited to the current formation with their defensive and positional abilities. N'Zogbia has been best used wide left so far. I reckon he could do a very good job behind the strikers without many defensive duties, but failed to impress most times he played there. That's why Owen is the best option we do have for it at the moment. Edit: Or in short words: As alex already said. unusually inefficient of you Isegrim. I think if the Zog can be patient, we'll change our system for next year. This formation strikes me as a marriage of convenience, not Keegans preferred style of play. It's playing what he can with his best players/performers. Next season we may revert to a 442, or maybe an altered 451 or who knows? I agree, whilst Keegan deserves alot of credit for seeing this and switching to it to great effect and thought of the completely different use of Owen, i imagine with his own signings we'll see more 4-4-2 than 4-3-3, but maybe he'll be tempted to use both when he sees fit. Or we could go with my preferred choice of 3-5-2 that always works! When the new players come in we'll go 442 imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9906 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 A few years back I thought Zoggy would turn into a really special player but it hasnt happend, maybe down to some shitty managers. There are a lot better out there and if we can get a good price for him and KK can bring in a class replacement I wouldnt be that fussed if he did go, If his hearts not in it then performances will suffer and we will need everyone to give 100% next season, KK will expect nothing less and if we want success everyone needs to be focused He's not even 22 ffs, so there is still enough time to make us of his (raw) talents. I don't think there are that many players out there of his age with the same potential. Most of them are not available, so I'd rather try to get the best out of the player who the club actually has to its disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 A few years back I thought Zoggy would turn into a really special player but it hasnt happend, maybe down to some shitty managers. There are a lot better out there and if we can get a good price for him and KK can bring in a class replacement I wouldnt be that fussed if he did go, If his hearts not in it then performances will suffer and we will need everyone to give 100% next season, KK will expect nothing less and if we want success everyone needs to be focused He's not even 22 ffs, so there is still enough time to make us of his (raw) talents. I don't think there are that many players out there of his age with the same potential. Most of them are not available, so I'd rather try to get the best out of the player who the club actually has to its disposal. It's unthinkable we'd let a player of his type go without a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Had more or less agreed to sign for Fulham before BS came in, thats how much he wants to be in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I think that now that Keegan has the team playing aggressive, expansive football we'll see players like N'Zogbia and Milner convinced to stay, we'll also see a different kind of player available to us. Even if we finish 12 or 13th as we have done before, we'd attract a more exciting brand of footballer, because of the football we'll play. ... urrrrr optimism strikes :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontoasey 0 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 French man, sulky as fuck if they dont get what they want lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3517 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Had more or less agreed to sign for Fulham before BS came in, thats how much he wants to be in London. Was it Fulham?!?? Proof that a brain is optional to be a good footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteroidblitz 12 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Keegan faces N'Zogbia exit Saturday 12 Apr 2008 http://www.4thegame.com/club/newcastle-uni...7151/index.html Newcastle United boss Kevin Keegan has admitted that it is highly likely that French midfielder Charles N'Zogbia will quit the club in the summer. The 21-year-old joined the Magpies in the summer of 2004 from Le Havre, but appears to have decided to head for pastures new, despite having three years left on his current contract. Keegan commented: "When I first came in there were eight days left of the transfer window. Charles and his agent wanted to move him out of here and I wouldn't allow that. "I said if he did his best until the end of the season and felt the same way, I would let him go if he still wanted to go. But it would be on our terms because he has three years left on his contract here. "If he can learn to be a team player with his individual skill, he'll be a hell of an asset for any club. I would like that club to be Newcastle. "We have 16 or 17 players who are totally committed, as a pack, to taking this club forward and Charles has got to come into it a little bit more. "I think he has been told that by the other players, that both them and myself would like to keep him here, but he's got to be fully committed." N'Zogbia, who can also play at left-back, has scored nine goals in 130 appearances for the Magpies to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Shame. But it's true his commitment levels do seem to have waded since the early season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Shame. But it's true his commitment levels do seem to have waded since the early season O RLY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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