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Can't believe people take Ketamine on purpose btw.

 

It is still used very occasionally in medicine, particularly in children, or those with chronic pain. Although one mental anaesthetist in Leeds still uses it for everyone. And hits the anaesthetic machine with a stick whenever it starts beeping. ;)

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not a fan of coke, weed and e's are the only things I'll bother with now. You know what you're getting with both for the most part and the latter is on the rare occasion I plan to be out for the long haul.

 

Coke just seems to be a very expensive way to metamorphose into an objectionable arsehole for an hour or so.

 

Have to disagree re pills (not ecstasy, as you never really know what's in em) and the bit in bold. The amount of MDMA, ket and speed mixed in varies enormously.

sorry, I meant that in my experience, with ecstasy you're high kicks in after twenty, you stay high for ages and it's a gentle escalation. Obviously each one is a little different, but I know weed makes me giggly and slothsome and e makes me giddy and energetic.

 

I know how much of each I can handle, I know how long I'll be up and I know how long I'll be down afterwards.

 

and alex, bullshit, you can buy mine [/topgun]

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I would say one of the reasons Brown is doing so poorly in the opinion polls is that people are really sick of Labour and its style over substance (excuse the shit pun) brand of government. Btw, I believe Cannabis use has actually gone down since it was reclassified to C.

 

 

Thats why I stopped smoking it, not hard enough shit with me being nails 'n' all that, might start again if it goes back up....solid

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I would say one of the reasons Brown is doing so poorly in the opinion polls is that people are really sick of Labour and its style over substance (excuse the shit pun) brand of government. Btw, I believe Cannabis use has actually gone down since it was reclassified to C.

 

 

Thats why I stopped smoking it, not hard enough shit with me being nails 'n' all that, might start again if it goes back up....solid

Daft cunt. ;)

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wazzock

:razz: You out on Monday anyway Fish Face?

Aim to be, depends on a number of things, if my boss needs me around or not. Doubtful he will, but you have to ask first. :D

 

don't I owe you a pint anyway? ;)

 

 

Are you sure he's your boss and not your pimp? Sounds a well strange relationship, all a bit sopranos tbh

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I would say one of the reasons Brown is doing so poorly in the opinion polls is that people are really sick of Labour and its style over substance (excuse the shit pun) brand of government. Btw, I believe Cannabis use has actually gone down since it was reclassified to C.

 

 

Thats why I stopped smoking it, not hard enough shit with me being nails 'n' all that, might start again if it goes back up....solid

Daft cunt. ;)

 

 

Truth that man ya fucking radgie :razz:

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wazzock

:razz: You out on Monday anyway Fish Face?

Aim to be, depends on a number of things, if my boss needs me around or not. Doubtful he will, but you have to ask first. :D

 

don't I owe you a pint anyway? ;)

 

 

Are you sure he's your boss and not your pimp? Sounds a well strange relationship, all a bit sopranos tbh

I wish it was Sopranos, there'd be less fucking drama!

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wazzock

:razz: You out on Monday anyway Fish Face?

Aim to be, depends on a number of things, if my boss needs me around or not. Doubtful he will, but you have to ask first. :D

 

don't I owe you a pint anyway? ;)

 

 

Are you sure he's your boss and not your pimp? Sounds a well strange relationship, all a bit sopranos tbh

I wish it was Sopranos, there'd be less fucking drama!

 

Bada Bing!! <_<

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/may...hol.drugspolicy

 

Police will not adopt a tougher approach to cases of simple possession of cannabis when ministers upgrade the legal status of the drug to class B, the Guardian can disclose.

 

The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) confirmed last night that the current policy of "confiscate and warn" would continue, despite Gordon Brown's determination to reclassify the drug in an attempt to "send a tough message" to young people about its use.

 

Chief constables are debating whether or not fixed penalty fines should be available alongside cannabis warnings. But the basic approach of saving police time by not making an arrest and taking the offender to the police station to be charged, introduced four years ago, will remain.

 

Before cannabis was downgraded to class C in 2004, 58% of possession cases formally dealt with by police ended in arrest and formal caution, while 42% were taken to court.

 

Campaigners for drug law reform last night questioned the relevance of the drug classification system, which dates back to 1971, and its ability to send a message.

 

Roger Howard, chief executive of the UK Drug Policy Commission, and a former government drugs adviser, said: "There will be no new powers or resources for policing if cannabis is made class B, and cannabis warnings can still be issued instead of arrest."

 

He said this underlined the muddle at the heart of government over the purpose of a drug classification system which was unlikely ever to be able to "send a message to young people". Since cannabis had moved from class B to class C, the number of schoolchildren who think it is fine to try cannabis had halved, he said.

 

It is expected that Acpo guidance to police officers will use different language from existing guidelines to stress the discretion that is available to constables to take more robust action in cases involving repeat offenders or aggravating factors such as disorder or evidence of organised crime.

 

An Acpo spokesman last night: "The key will be the discretion for officers to strike the right balance. We do not want to criminalise young people who are experimenting." However, he stressed that cases involving "aggravating factors" were more likely to see an arrest and prosecution.

 

When the police announced their support for regrading cannabis as a class B drug this year, Simon Byrne, Merseyside's assistant chief constable and the Acpo lead on policing cannabis, entered a little-noticed but crucial caveat to the police position. He said that since cannabis had been downgraded there had been growing concerns over increased potency, the rise of "homegrown" cannabis farms and a perception that its legal status meant it was seen as a low policing priority.

 

But he added that the police had supported the decision to downgrade the drug four years ago because of "the disproportionate time spent by frontline police officers in dealing with offenders in possession of small amounts of cannabis for personal use. Should the decision be taken to reclassify cannabis to a class B, Acpo believes the service should retain this flexibility in dealing with instances of possession on the street, including the discretion to issue warnings in appropriate circumstances".

 

The 2005 Serious and Organised Crime and Policing Act introduced new criteria for making an arrest which emphasised that it had to be necessary because, for example, the officer doubted whether he had been given a real name or a valid address by the offender. The number of cannabis warnings issued has spiralled to more than 100,000 since its legal status was downgraded; that forms an important part of the ability of the police to meet their national target for the number of offences brought to justice.

 

In legal terms, the move back to class B means the maximum prison sentence for possession will be increased from two to five years.

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Brown seems tro be trying to win over the middle-class/middle england voters while deciding to shit on the working class voters thinking they'll vote Labour anyway.

I can see the stay-at-home vote very much deciding the next election. For all Cameron's clearly a wank, I don't think he winds up the pissed-off traditional Labour base anywhere near enough to get them to come out and vote for Brown.

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