St George's Day

[NJS 4454]

What interests me is that the Scots, say, would presumably be forced to have extremely strong ties with the EU if they were to survive as an independent nation, even up to and including adopting the euro. Are they really that bothered about the English that they'd reject the devil they know for another union over which they have far less control and involving people they have far less in common with?

 

I think Ireland has shown that that "alliance" can work.

 

I don't know how true it is but I've seen a few thing referring to the SNP as "Tartan Tories" - maybe the people would regret autonomy. They also argue that the old argument about being subsidised by English taxes is now wrong if oil revenues were included so maybe theres a drive to do it now before the oil runs out (not imminent I know but not a long time either).

[Fop 1]

What interests me is that the Scots, say, would presumably be forced to have extremely strong ties with the EU if they were to survive as an independent nation, even up to and including adopting the euro. Are they really that bothered about the English that they'd reject the devil they know for another union over which they have far less control and involving people they have far less in common with?

 

I think Ireland has shown that that "alliance" can work.

 

I don't know how true it is but I've seen a few thing referring to the SNP as "Tartan Tories" - maybe the people would regret autonomy. They also argue that the old argument about being subsidised by English taxes is now wrong if oil revenues were included so maybe theres a drive to do it now before the oil runs out (not imminent I know but not a long time either).

 

Thing is Ireland's "boom" coincided with the best period of world wide economic in recorded history (250 years ish), and that was basically due to globalisation (which is a totally one time thing, or at least it would take an economic disaster that makes the Great Depression look like someone losing a fiver to happen first for it to be able to occur again).

 

At the moment, and looking at the future there's quite a lot of worries about Ireland economy (and as I said that the whole "celtic tiger" thing was actually a "myth" - that it occurred because of other surrounding factors and not the actual Irish economy itself).

 

So it's unlikely Scotland could do the same, especially now that oil and gas revenues have fallen (even with price rises).

 

I dunno, we saw in the early 90's the problem with a Europe wide economic policies, it's been great over the last 10ish years, but that again has been down to other issues.

 

I suspect that independence would be pretty self harming in most ways, and that the EU has a lot of hard decision coming its way as well.

[Radgina 1]

not even gonna bother reading all this tripe...Happy St Georges day all you fellow Britons..I have celebbrated all day I thank you

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4098]

I prefer to think of it as England day. As a follower of Martin Luther I don't believe in the whole saint thing. Happy England day and happy birthday bard of Avon.