U.S. to spy on British motorists'

[Park Life 71]

Routine journeys carried out by millions of British motorists can be monitored by authorities in the United States and other enforcement agencies across the world under anti-terrorism rules introduced discreetly by Jacqui Smith.

 

Government to quiz households on sex lives and salaries

The discovery that images of cars captured on road-side cameras, and "personal data" derived from them, including number plates, can be sent overseas, has angered MPs and civil liberties groups concerned by the increasing use of "Big Brother" surveillance tactics.

 

 

 

Images of private cars, as well as registration numbers, could be sent outside to countries such as the USA

 

Yesterday, politicians and civil liberties groups accused the Home Secretary of keeping the plans to export pictures secret from Parliament when she announced last year that British anti-terrorism police could access "real time" images from cameras used in the running of London's congestion charge.

 

A statement by Miss Smith to Parliament on July 17, 2007, detailing the exemptions for police from the 1998 Data Protection Act, did not mention other changes that would permit material to be sent outside the European Economic Area (EEA) to the authorities in the US and elsewhere.

 

 

Shocking really.

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../21/nspy121.xml

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I imagine the DVLA has already sold their entire database to the USA. China, Iran and Tesco's too most likely.

 

 

 

 

 

I also quite enjoy the irony of it becoming fairly routine to stop and search and even destroy/wipe the film/memory card of cameras of people "caught" taking photos (despite there being no legal right for police or cheapo-police to do so) when we have more CCTV in the UK than the rest of the world combined.

[Park Life 71]

I imagine the DVLA has already sold their entire database to the USA. China, Iran and Tesco's too most likely.

 

 

 

 

 

I also quite enjoy the irony of it becoming fairly routine to stop and search and even destroy/wipe the film/memory card of cameras of people "caught" taking photos (despite there being no legal right for police or cheapo-police to do so) when we have more CCTV in the UK than the rest of the world combined.

 

There was demo's and sit ins (people sat in the square on their sofas) when the local Govt wanted to put up 4 cameras here. They only have them in the main train stations currently as far as I can see.

[Fop 1]

I imagine the DVLA has already sold their entire database to the USA. China, Iran and Tesco's too most likely.

 

 

 

 

 

I also quite enjoy the irony of it becoming fairly routine to stop and search and even destroy/wipe the film/memory card of cameras of people "caught" taking photos (despite there being no legal right for police or cheapo-police to do so) when we have more CCTV in the UK than the rest of the world combined.

 

There was demo's and sit ins (people sat in the square on their sofas) when the local Govt wanted to put up 4 cameras here. They only have them in the main train stations currently as far as I can see.

 

Sensible to be honest.

 

There's quite literally CCTV's watching CCTV's in the UK now, it seems to be the "universal panacea" (i.e. it's cheap).

 

What disturbs me more is that AI and software automation is pushing ahead at a very fast rate (and is even cheaper still) and massive linkage is becoming standard, which can monitor in ways even a human on every monitor 24/7 cannot.

[Park Life 71]

I imagine the DVLA has already sold their entire database to the USA. China, Iran and Tesco's too most likely.

 

 

 

 

 

I also quite enjoy the irony of it becoming fairly routine to stop and search and even destroy/wipe the film/memory card of cameras of people "caught" taking photos (despite there being no legal right for police or cheapo-police to do so) when we have more CCTV in the UK than the rest of the world combined.

 

There was demo's and sit ins (people sat in the square on their sofas) when the local Govt wanted to put up 4 cameras here. They only have them in the main train stations currently as far as I can see.

 

Sensible to be honest.

 

There's quite literally CCTV's watching CCTV's in the UK now, it seems to be the "universal panacea" (i.e. it's cheap).

 

What disturbs me more is that AI and software automation is pushing ahead at a very fast rate (and is even cheaper still) and massive linkage is becoming standard, which can monitor in ways even a human on every monitor 24/7 cannot.

 

Well the plan from what I hear is to facilitate the biometric image from the new passports into the cctv (feature recognition) software. This can technically be done already but there are legal issues with this...The software is ready though. It becomes a different thing if they can pinpoint who you are instantaneously.

[Fop 1]

I imagine the DVLA has already sold their entire database to the USA. China, Iran and Tesco's too most likely.

 

 

 

 

 

I also quite enjoy the irony of it becoming fairly routine to stop and search and even destroy/wipe the film/memory card of cameras of people "caught" taking photos (despite there being no legal right for police or cheapo-police to do so) when we have more CCTV in the UK than the rest of the world combined.

 

There was demo's and sit ins (people sat in the square on their sofas) when the local Govt wanted to put up 4 cameras here. They only have them in the main train stations currently as far as I can see.

 

Sensible to be honest.

 

There's quite literally CCTV's watching CCTV's in the UK now, it seems to be the "universal panacea" (i.e. it's cheap).

 

What disturbs me more is that AI and software automation is pushing ahead at a very fast rate (and is even cheaper still) and massive linkage is becoming standard, which can monitor in ways even a human on every monitor 24/7 cannot.

 

Well the plan from what I hear is to facilitate the biometric image from the new passports into the cctv (feature recognition) software. This can technically be done already but there are legal issues with this...The software is ready though. It becomes a different thing if they can pinpoint who you are instantaneously.

 

Aye the software and infrastructure is more or less there for facial recognition and even walk recognition across many town centres and such, and in some cases actually working now.

 

If they tie it to a pre-existing central database then they've actually gone beyond "Big Brother" in some contexts.

 

 

 

 

I imagine the first use will be for take downs for the TV Licensing Agency, which makes the CIA envious in their relentless pursuit and all around viciousness.

[Park Life 71]

I imagine the DVLA has already sold their entire database to the USA. China, Iran and Tesco's too most likely.

 

 

 

 

 

I also quite enjoy the irony of it becoming fairly routine to stop and search and even destroy/wipe the film/memory card of cameras of people "caught" taking photos (despite there being no legal right for police or cheapo-police to do so) when we have more CCTV in the UK than the rest of the world combined.

 

There was demo's and sit ins (people sat in the square on their sofas) when the local Govt wanted to put up 4 cameras here. They only have them in the main train stations currently as far as I can see.

 

Sensible to be honest.

 

There's quite literally CCTV's watching CCTV's in the UK now, it seems to be the "universal panacea" (i.e. it's cheap).

 

What disturbs me more is that AI and software automation is pushing ahead at a very fast rate (and is even cheaper still) and massive linkage is becoming standard, which can monitor in ways even a human on every monitor 24/7 cannot.

 

Well the plan from what I hear is to facilitate the biometric image from the new passports into the cctv (feature recognition) software. This can technically be done already but there are legal issues with this...The software is ready though. It becomes a different thing if they can pinpoint who you are instantaneously.

 

Aye the software and infrastructure is more or less there for facial recognition and even walk recognition across many town centres and such, and in some cases actually working now.

 

If they tie it to a pre-existing central database then they've actually gone beyond "Big Brother" in some contexts.

 

 

 

 

I imagine the first use will be for take downs for the TV Licensing Agency, which makes the CIA envious in their relentless pursuit and all around viciousness.

 

Is that a telly Sir?

 

No it's a postmodern faux pas.

Edited April 21, 2008 by Park Life

[Ketsbaia 0]

 

Revolving like a microwave meal. Probably.

[Rob W 0]

well all the details of your bank accounts and insurance policies have been sent out of the UK in India etc over the past 10 years so what's the problem with your car number plate...............................

[Park Life 71]

well all the details of your bank accounts and insurance policies have been sent out of the UK in India etc over the past 10 years so what's the problem with your car number plate...............................

 

They can only look at it, not access it or store it though. I see your point however.

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well all the details of your bank accounts and insurance policies have been sent out of the UK in India etc over the past 10 years so what's the problem with your car number plate...............................

 

They can only look at it, not access it or store it though. I see your point however.

 

Given the initial level of industrial scale fraud that came with outsourcing there, I had a problem with that too. No data protection act there making things worse as well (although the might have fixed that now).