Guest alex Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Made up. Page 3 wanking material for some though. Right on cue on N-O, from the same people who dismissed the tabloids who claimed he was wanting to leave about a fortnight ago. thought they ie baggy, were your mates Alex ? I thought you were my mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Made up. Page 3 wanking material for some though. Right on cue on N-O, from the same people who dismissed the tabloids who claimed he was wanting to leave about a fortnight ago. thought they ie baggy, were your mates Alex ? Baggy has set himself up as the 'voice of reason' on N.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Made up. Page 3 wanking material for some though. Right on cue on N-O, from the same people who dismissed the tabloids who claimed he was wanting to leave about a fortnight ago. thought they ie baggy, were your mates Alex ? Baggy has set himself up as the 'voice of reason' on N.O. I noticed. He's got vast experience of supporting the club too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Made up. Page 3 wanking material for some though. Right on cue on N-O, from the same people who dismissed the tabloids who claimed he was wanting to leave about a fortnight ago. thought they ie baggy, were your mates Alex ? I thought you were my mate. oh well, I got the distinct impression that baggy was. Never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 back on topic, Martins for Arsenal or ManU ??? Hm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Made up. Page 3 wanking material for some though. Right on cue on N-O, from the same people who dismissed the tabloids who claimed he was wanting to leave about a fortnight ago. thought they ie baggy, were your mates Alex ? I thought you were my mate. oh well, I got the distinct impression that baggy was. Never mind. He's alright, aye. I wasn't really on about him like. I poster what I said in here in the thread over there anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Not exactly on topic but I think Martins deserves as much credit as anyone else for our recent revival. Agreed. Along with Owen they have contributed as much as anyone to the revival. I'm not sure what more Owen has to do to get some credit, some folk are never happy. keegan found a way to use our 3 main goalscorers, and they say he's tactically naive. He also converted Steve Howey from a 2nd division centre forward into an England centra defender. He converted Rob Lee from a good wide player into the best English attacking central midfield player in the premieship. He sees more than the cockney journo tossers think. Nobody gets to 90 minutes from the title who is naive, clueless etc Playing these 3 players has clinched our safety, and it was so important because nobody from midfield ever looked they would score any goals. I noticed Martins composure last week, excellent. His goal against Spurs showed his unpredictability, he lost the ball then won it back and scored. This is the biggest part of his game that he needs to improve, and be more consistent, if he can do that then there is a real player in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Great point about KK getting the most out of our front 3 and it pointing to him knowing more about football than the 'tactically astute' Allardyce will ever know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Great point about KK getting the most out of our front 3 and it pointing to him knowing more about football than the 'tactically astute' Allardyce will ever know. Although it might seem obvious, it's not a very fashionable thing to say these days of 'great thinkers' (e.g. Wenger, Mourinho, and until lately, Allardyce) but experience as a player really can be an advantage when it comes to managing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 (edited) Great point about KK getting the most out of our front 3 and it pointing to him knowing more about football than the 'tactically astute' Allardyce will ever know. Although it might seem obvious, it's not a very fashionable thing to say these days of 'great thinkers' (e.g. Wenger, Mourinho, and until lately, Allardyce) but experience as a player really can be an advantage when it comes to managing. Tbf though, those two are different class to XL Sam. Edit: And Allardyce played football to a good standard. Edited April 12, 2008 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Great point about KK getting the most out of our front 3 and it pointing to him knowing more about football than the 'tactically astute' Allardyce will ever know. Although it might seem obvious, it's not a very fashionable thing to say these days of 'great thinkers' (e.g. Wenger, Mourinho, and until lately, Allardyce) but experience as a player really can be an advantage when it comes to managing. Tbf though, those two are different class to XL Sam. Edit: And Allardyce played football to a good standard. Of course they are, but 'old school' managers like Keegan are generally thought of as old pros stuck in the past, whereas the future of footballing management is intellectual types like Mourinho or Benitez who either didn't play or didn't achieve much as players. Look at all the headshaking when Shearer is mentioned as a manager - "great player, but means nothing in management. We should get someone who understands tactics and whatnot". Of course managing is a different job to scoring goals, but there are transferrable skills, as Keegan and others have shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Great point about KK getting the most out of our front 3 and it pointing to him knowing more about football than the 'tactically astute' Allardyce will ever know. Although it might seem obvious, it's not a very fashionable thing to say these days of 'great thinkers' (e.g. Wenger, Mourinho, and until lately, Allardyce) but experience as a player really can be an advantage when it comes to managing. Tbf though, those two are different class to XL Sam. Edit: And Allardyce played football to a good standard. Of course they are, but 'old school' managers like Keegan are generally thought of as old pros stuck in the past, whereas the future of footballing management is intellectual types like Mourinho or Benitez who either didn't play or didn't achieve much as players. Look at all the headshaking when Shearer is mentioned as a manager - "great player, but means nothing in management. We should get someone who understands tactics and whatnot". Of course managing is a different job to scoring goals, but there are transferrable skills, as Keegan and others have shown. real first hand experience of football has got to be an advantage isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Great point about KK getting the most out of our front 3 and it pointing to him knowing more about football than the 'tactically astute' Allardyce will ever know. Although it might seem obvious, it's not a very fashionable thing to say these days of 'great thinkers' (e.g. Wenger, Mourinho, and until lately, Allardyce) but experience as a player really can be an advantage when it comes to managing. Tbf though, those two are different class to XL Sam. Edit: And Allardyce played football to a good standard. Of course they are, but 'old school' managers like Keegan are generally thought of as old pros stuck in the past, whereas the future of footballing management is intellectual types like Mourinho or Benitez who either didn't play or didn't achieve much as players. Look at all the headshaking when Shearer is mentioned as a manager - "great player, but means nothing in management. We should get someone who understands tactics and whatnot". Of course managing is a different job to scoring goals, but there are transferrable skills, as Keegan and others have shown. real first hand experience of football has got to be an advantage isn't it ? Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Great point about KK getting the most out of our front 3 and it pointing to him knowing more about football than the 'tactically astute' Allardyce will ever know. Although it might seem obvious, it's not a very fashionable thing to say these days of 'great thinkers' (e.g. Wenger, Mourinho, and until lately, Allardyce) but experience as a player really can be an advantage when it comes to managing. Tbf though, those two are different class to XL Sam. Edit: And Allardyce played football to a good standard. Of course they are, but 'old school' managers like Keegan are generally thought of as old pros stuck in the past, whereas the future of footballing management is intellectual types like Mourinho or Benitez who either didn't play or didn't achieve much as players. Look at all the headshaking when Shearer is mentioned as a manager - "great player, but means nothing in management. We should get someone who understands tactics and whatnot". Of course managing is a different job to scoring goals, but there are transferrable skills, as Keegan and others have shown. I'll never understand the tactics guff, clearly a manager can't be completely clueless, but I think it's just over egged by pundits that have to say something to justify their own jobs these days (and football just isn't that complex). For one, as has been said, if Keegan had been a foreign manager far from being called tactically naive he'd have likely been hailed for being refreshingly forward thinking and adventurous and bringing it to the English game. Not to mention that most of the successful managers aren't actually that successful due to being chess masters during games, so much as getting everything right leading up to their games (I'd say that is certainly the case with Ferguson, but also Mourniho and Wenger to a significant degree as well). It actually reminds me of military generals, that is the great tacticians get all the remembrance, but the ones that sorted their logistics as their primary concern are actually the one that tend to have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassplayerjj 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 ''The ideal general wins the war before the battle is ever fought.'' - Sun Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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