Replacement for Given

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

Jaaskelainen on a free would be my guess.

 

So we'd swap one keeper who has had 1 bad season for another?

Do you reckon world class goalies will be queuing round Barrack Road to join us like?

[Fop 1]

Where's this Given leaving suggestion come from?

Bawan.

Was just a suggestion since hes probably had his shittest season since he put on a Toon top.

That's what I just said numbnuts I think he's finished fwiw. Which isn't a lot admittedly.

 

Well that really depends on if his injuries issues are something that can be operated on and sorted out (and just haven't been), or whether the damage is always going to leave him injury prone and/or less mobile no matter what is done to him.

 

Probably won't get a clear idea until well into next season anyway I guess.

Don't go committing yourself there Fop.

Only and fool or I guess a prophet would claim to know something that is currently completely unknowable.

 

As I said only time will tell.

If you say so.

In this case I know so.

[Holden McGroin 6945]

Jaaskelainen on a free would be my guess.

 

So we'd swap one keeper who has had 1 bad season for another?

Do you reckon world class goalies will be queuing round Barrack Road to join us like?

 

 

Why do we need to sign a world class kepper when we've already got one?? Hopefully this op will sort him out.

[Guest alex]

Not convinced Given was ever world class and I'm a big fan of his.

[Holden McGroin 6945]

I'd disagree. We criticise our own players too much imo. Then watch Cech for 6 games a season and declare him the best in the world.

 

Whatever class you rate him in, he has been our best keeper in my lifetime and possibly ever.

[Guest alex]

I'd disagree. We criticise our own players too much imo. Then watch Cech for 6 games a season and declare him the best in the world.

 

Whatever class you rate him in, he has been our best keeper in my lifetime and possibly ever.

He's the best keeper I've ever seen in b&w too but while he has been a world class shot-stopper I think other aspects of his game are what prevents him from being 'world class' in goal. In particular his distribution and his inability to command his area / being weak at collecting crosses. It's just being realistic imo.

[Fop 1]

I'd disagree. We criticise our own players too much imo. Then watch Cech for 6 games a season and declare him the best in the world.

 

Whatever class you rate him in, he has been our best keeper in my lifetime and possibly ever.

He's the best keeper I've ever seen in b&w too but while he has been a world class shot-stopper I think other aspects of his game are what prevents him from being 'world class' in goal. In particular his distribution and his inability to command his area / being weak at collecting crosses. It's just being realistic imo.

 

 

Yup he definitely has had his weaknesses, but at his very best he was pretty good with very few really noticeably better than him overall.

 

Although I'd agree with maybe not being world class, but that's mostly because very, very few players actually are "world class".

[Guest alex]

I'd disagree. We criticise our own players too much imo. Then watch Cech for 6 games a season and declare him the best in the world.

 

Whatever class you rate him in, he has been our best keeper in my lifetime and possibly ever.

He's the best keeper I've ever seen in b&w too but while he has been a world class shot-stopper I think other aspects of his game are what prevents him from being 'world class' in goal. In particular his distribution and his inability to command his area / being weak at collecting crosses. It's just being realistic imo.

 

 

Yup he definitely has had his weaknesses, but at his very best he was pretty good with very few really noticeably better than him overall.

 

Although I'd agree with maybe not being world class, but that's mostly because very, very few players actually are "world class".

That was sort of my point too. It's an overused phrase.

[Guest alex]

Where's this Given leaving suggestion come from?

Bawan.

Was just a suggestion since hes probably had his shittest season since he put on a Toon top.

That's what I just said numbnuts I think he's finished fwiw. Which isn't a lot admittedly.

 

Well that really depends on if his injuries issues are something that can be operated on and sorted out (and just haven't been), or whether the damage is always going to leave him injury prone and/or less mobile no matter what is done to him.

 

Probably won't get a clear idea until well into next season anyway I guess.

Don't go committing yourself there Fop.

Only and fool or I guess a prophet would claim to know something that is currently completely unknowable.

 

As I said only time will tell.

If you say so.

In this case I know so.

I was taking the piss out of your sentence construction.

[Fop 1]

Where's this Given leaving suggestion come from?

Bawan.

Was just a suggestion since hes probably had his shittest season since he put on a Toon top.

That's what I just said numbnuts I think he's finished fwiw. Which isn't a lot admittedly.

 

Well that really depends on if his injuries issues are something that can be operated on and sorted out (and just haven't been), or whether the damage is always going to leave him injury prone and/or less mobile no matter what is done to him.

 

Probably won't get a clear idea until well into next season anyway I guess.

Don't go committing yourself there Fop.

Only and fool or I guess a prophet would claim to know something that is currently completely unknowable.

 

As I said only time will tell.

If you say so.

In this case I know so.

I was taking the piss out of your sentence construction.

Now I should have known that, given that it is 90% of what you do.

[Guest alex]

Woeful patter

And I include myself in that assessment.

[Holden McGroin 6945]

I'd disagree. We criticise our own players too much imo. Then watch Cech for 6 games a season and declare him the best in the world.

 

Whatever class you rate him in, he has been our best keeper in my lifetime and possibly ever.

He's the best keeper I've ever seen in b&w too but while he has been a world class shot-stopper I think other aspects of his game are what prevents him from being 'world class' in goal. In particular his distribution and his inability to command his area / being weak at collecting crosses. It's just being realistic imo.

 

 

Yup he definitely has had his weaknesses, but at his very best he was pretty good with very few really noticeably better than him overall.

 

Although I'd agree with maybe not being world class, but that's mostly because very, very few players actually are "world class".

That was sort of my point too. It's an overused phrase.

 

I was using the term world class as in "one of the best keepers in the world at the time" kind of way.

[Guest alex]

I'd disagree. We criticise our own players too much imo. Then watch Cech for 6 games a season and declare him the best in the world.

 

Whatever class you rate him in, he has been our best keeper in my lifetime and possibly ever.

He's the best keeper I've ever seen in b&w too but while he has been a world class shot-stopper I think other aspects of his game are what prevents him from being 'world class' in goal. In particular his distribution and his inability to command his area / being weak at collecting crosses. It's just being realistic imo.

 

 

Yup he definitely has had his weaknesses, but at his very best he was pretty good with very few really noticeably better than him overall.

 

Although I'd agree with maybe not being world class, but that's mostly because very, very few players actually are "world class".

That was sort of my point too. It's an overused phrase.

 

I was using the term world class as in "one of the best keepers in the world at the time" kind of way.

 

You said he was world class now though.

[Holden McGroin 6945]

I'd disagree. We criticise our own players too much imo. Then watch Cech for 6 games a season and declare him the best in the world.

 

Whatever class you rate him in, he has been our best keeper in my lifetime and possibly ever.

He's the best keeper I've ever seen in b&w too but while he has been a world class shot-stopper I think other aspects of his game are what prevents him from being 'world class' in goal. In particular his distribution and his inability to command his area / being weak at collecting crosses. It's just being realistic imo.

 

 

Yup he definitely has had his weaknesses, but at his very best he was pretty good with very few really noticeably better than him overall.

 

Although I'd agree with maybe not being world class, but that's mostly because very, very few players actually are "world class".

That was sort of my point too. It's an overused phrase.

 

I was using the term world class as in "one of the best keepers in the world at the time" kind of way.

 

You said he was world class now though.

 

 

Well he is one of the worlds best.

 

This is going nowhere !

[Guest alex]

I'd disagree. We criticise our own players too much imo. Then watch Cech for 6 games a season and declare him the best in the world.

 

Whatever class you rate him in, he has been our best keeper in my lifetime and possibly ever.

He's the best keeper I've ever seen in b&w too but while he has been a world class shot-stopper I think other aspects of his game are what prevents him from being 'world class' in goal. In particular his distribution and his inability to command his area / being weak at collecting crosses. It's just being realistic imo.

 

 

Yup he definitely has had his weaknesses, but at his very best he was pretty good with very few really noticeably better than him overall.

 

Although I'd agree with maybe not being world class, but that's mostly because very, very few players actually are "world class".

That was sort of my point too. It's an overused phrase.

 

I was using the term world class as in "one of the best keepers in the world at the time" kind of way.

 

You said he was world class now though.

 

 

Well he is one of the worlds best.

 

 

Is he fuck.

[Holden McGroin 6945]

I'd disagree. We criticise our own players too much imo. Then watch Cech for 6 games a season and declare him the best in the world.

 

Whatever class you rate him in, he has been our best keeper in my lifetime and possibly ever.

He's the best keeper I've ever seen in b&w too but while he has been a world class shot-stopper I think other aspects of his game are what prevents him from being 'world class' in goal. In particular his distribution and his inability to command his area / being weak at collecting crosses. It's just being realistic imo.

 

 

Yup he definitely has had his weaknesses, but at his very best he was pretty good with very few really noticeably better than him overall.

 

Although I'd agree with maybe not being world class, but that's mostly because very, very few players actually are "world class".

That was sort of my point too. It's an overused phrase.

 

I was using the term world class as in "one of the best keepers in the world at the time" kind of way.

 

You said he was world class now though.

 

 

Well he is one of the worlds best.

 

 

Is he fuck.

 

Was up until this season then.

[Papa Lazaru 0]

Given was definitely a world class (whatever it means) shot stopper, i've seen few better than him at that, and easilly the best keeper ive seen at NUFC but i agree with Alex that his command of the 18 yard box and distribution meant he wasn't world class overall.

 

What's sad is that this season he's been a shadow of the player he was, its almost like a different player. In the past after every match people would be thinking he was man of the match or recounting great saves he'd made or how we'd have been hammered but for Given etc. Now he rarely seems to make the top draw saves and ive seen him fumbling or missing ones he'd normally have got.

 

I just hope after the op, a break from football and a new season starting, we'll see the old Given back.