Gazza

[Park Life 71]

I don't think anything could have stopped Gazza's decline (besides maybe being able to play football forever).

 

The guy just has some serious mental problems, which have been probably made worse by his lifestyle and the people he surrounded himself with.

 

Maybe with a club manager like Ferguson (or Robson, or even someone like Keegan) it might have helped a bit, but I still think the post-football things would have gone in a similar way.

 

Ive thought what Fergie does for many years, i agree with him completely (and it feels so wrong!) that he would have saved Gazza.

 

Gazza has/would have problems, but alot of them would stem from, or be increased by the serious injury he got and subsequent injuries leaving him with nothing to do and goign to Lazio with some people around him who weren't helpful shall we say.

 

IMO f he'd went to manu Fergie and the older geordie players he mentioned would have looked after him, kept him out of trouble and he would have went on to be the best player in the world for some time as he was that good.

 

And as an afterthought, when Keegan took over as manager first time round and did what he did i suspect Gazza would have been brought back home like Beardsley and Shearer to play for us.

 

Fergie is a good man manager, and being under someone like that might have helped (career, football and generally), but Gazza needs and needed a lot more than that, his problems don't come from guidance so much as probably his childhood and likely just something biochemically wrong with him.

 

Fergie wouldn't be able to save someone from say cancer, and Gazza is unfortunately just as much suffering from illness.

 

 

 

 

Although maybe he needs something like a Terry Mac role to help him.

 

I know what you mean, i saw that documentary about Gazza's life and particluarly his childhood that was on a few years ago, but i think Fergie and being at manu would have saved his career from ending up as it did (which still wasnt bad, just barey a fraction of what it should have been). I just think someof his problems came about or were made worse by things that happened in his career and that those would have been changed.

 

But we'll never know sadly.

 

 

The leg break at Lazio came at a really bad time.

[Guest alex]

That was caused by a stupid tackle on Nesta (iirc) in training wasn't it? Sums him up in many ways.

[Park Life 71]

That was caused by a stupid tackle on Nesta (iirc) in training wasn't it? Sums him up in many ways.

 

Yup. Well remembered.

[Tooj 17]

That was caused by a stupid tackle on Nesta (iirc) in training wasn't it? Sums him up in many ways.

Aye it was.

[Guest alex]

That was caused by a stupid tackle on Nesta (iirc) in training wasn't it? Sums him up in many ways.

 

Yup. Well remembered.

Same with the Gary Charles tackle. Absolutely ridiculous. It should have been at least a second yellow too after he'd already tackled someone at waist height after about 2 minutes of the Cup final.

[Papa Lazaru 0]

That was caused by a stupid tackle on Nesta (iirc) in training wasn't it? Sums him up in many ways.

 

Yup. Well remembered.

Same with the Gary Charles tackle. Absolutely ridiculous. It should have been at least a second yellow too after he'd already tackled someone at waist height after about 2 minutes of the Cup final.

 

Exactly, he could have got a straight red for the first one, nevermind a yellow! I seem to reacall the ref, Roger Milford or something saying he wished he'd sent him off or at least booked him so the second thing didn't happen.

[Guest alex]

Nice mullet on Millford though.

[Papa Lazaru 0]

Nice mullet on Millford though.

 

Oh he had a cracking haircut, there's no denying that! Bit like David Gower and the silver acrylic wig they always went on about on they 'think its all over'!

 

Wasnt he one who liked to have a laugh and seemed like a canny bloke for a ref as well, though likely just as shite as the rest of course!

[Guest alex]

Nice mullet on Millford though.

 

Oh he had a cracking haircut, there's no denying that! Bit like David Gower and the silver acrylic wig they always went on about on they 'think its all over'!

 

Wasnt he one who liked to have a laugh and seemed like a canny bloke for a ref as well, though likely just as shite as the rest of course!

Aye, he always seemed pretty genial. I seem to remember him being a canny ref.

[Papa Lazaru 0]

Nice mullet on Millford though.

 

Oh he had a cracking haircut, there's no denying that! Bit like David Gower and the silver acrylic wig they always went on about on they 'think its all over'!

 

Wasnt he one who liked to have a laugh and seemed like a canny bloke for a ref as well, though likely just as shite as the rest of course!

Aye, he always seemed pretty genial. I seem to remember him being a canny ref.

 

They should get him on SSN see what he looks like now, better than inflicting Jeff fucking winter on us all the time!

[Guest alex]

Nice mullet on Millford though.

 

Oh he had a cracking haircut, there's no denying that! Bit like David Gower and the silver acrylic wig they always went on about on they 'think its all over'!

 

Wasnt he one who liked to have a laugh and seemed like a canny bloke for a ref as well, though likely just as shite as the rest of course!

Aye, he always seemed pretty genial. I seem to remember him being a canny ref.

 

They should get him on SSN see what he looks like now, better than inflicting Jeff fucking winter on us all the time!

I saw him in Forest Hall once (Winter that is) sitting in a restaurant, bright orange and he kept having a little look around to see if anyone had spotted him. He thinks he's fucking rock as well.

[Papa Lazaru 0]

Nice mullet on Millford though.

 

Oh he had a cracking haircut, there's no denying that! Bit like David Gower and the silver acrylic wig they always went on about on they 'think its all over'!

 

Wasnt he one who liked to have a laugh and seemed like a canny bloke for a ref as well, though likely just as shite as the rest of course!

Aye, he always seemed pretty genial. I seem to remember him being a canny ref.

 

They should get him on SSN see what he looks like now, better than inflicting Jeff fucking winter on us all the time!

I saw him in Forest Hall once (Winter that is) sitting in a restaurant, bright orange and he kept having a little look around to see if anyone had spotted him. He thinks he's fucking rock as well.

 

Yeah, he'll be the sort looking round trying to catch peoples eye and then if anybody comes up to him, he'll sigh/give a look to whoever he's with as if to say, "God i wish people wouldn't bother me because i'm famous!"

 

I was watching a league of gentlemen dvd the other day and for a laugh they were in HMV somewhere and were basically standing round by their own dvd's looking at them until some people recognised them and then looking all surprised at the fuss to meet them. You can just imagine him doing that for real wherever he is!

[Guest alex]

I bet he's had an agent for years.

[Papa Lazaru 0]

I bet he's had an agent for years.

 

The best thign to do to him would be go over and start talking, acting like a big fan and admirer, ask for an autogrph and when he signs it say, "Sorry i thought you were Graham Poll" or something like that. Of course this would also work in reverse on Poll who is also a tit!

[Guest alex]

Just remembered this little nugget from his autobiography which was widely reported at the time (about his final game in charge):

"In the end I played a little bit extra, waiting until play was at the Kop end, before sounding the final shrill blast - a bit like the Last Post. The fans behind the goal burst into spontaneous applause. It was longer and louder than normal, even for a big home win. Did they know it was my final visit? Was the applause for me? They are such knowledgeable football people, that it would not surprise me."

Sums the egotistical prick up.

[Tooj 17]

[Meenzer 15716]

Fuck me, I'd forgotten about that.

[Guest alex]

Worst thing is, I'd imagine he's being deadly serious. It would be quite good were it tongue-in-cheek.

[Douggy B 0]

Let out and sectioned again this morning.

 

Breaking news. Sky

 

Why let him out?

[Kid Dynamite 7166]

I was talking about this with the CPNs today and they were saying there is nothing they could really do. Alcoholism isnt enough to section someone, and if he rejects the help he is offered there is little they can do. He gets taken to a place of safety by police on a section and by the time he is sober and assessed by a consultant hes of sound mind enough to be let out again.

[Park Life 71]

I was talking about this with the CPNs today and they were saying there is nothing they could really do. Alcoholism isnt enough to section someone, and if he rejects the help he is offered there is little they can do. He gets taken to a place of safety by police on a section and by the time he is sober and assessed by a consultant hes of sound mind enough to be let out again.

 

 

He needs a proper intervention, but by who?

[Tooj 17]

I was talking about this with the CPNs today and they were saying there is nothing they could really do. Alcoholism isnt enough to section someone, and if he rejects the help he is offered there is little they can do. He gets taken to a place of safety by police on a section and by the time he is sober and assessed by a consultant hes of sound mind enough to be let out again.

 

 

He needs a proper intervention, but by who?

Jebus.

[Andrew 4855]

I was talking about this with the CPNs today and they were saying there is nothing they could really do. Alcoholism isnt enough to section someone, and if he rejects the help he is offered there is little they can do. He gets taken to a place of safety by police on a section and by the time he is sober and assessed by a consultant hes of sound mind enough to be let out again.

 

 

He needs a proper intervention, but by who?

Jebus.

 

I'd actually be alright with gazza turning to jesus if it sorted him out

 

and that says a lot coming from me

[Douggy B 0]

From the Spurs official site:

 

Paul Gascoigne

 

As the media embargo, originally requested to secure privacy for Paul, has now been lifted, the Club would like to provide our supporters with an update on the position regarding our former midfield great Paul Gascoigne.

 

Gazza, one of English football's favourite sons, was yesterday sectioned under the Mental Health Act and will receive treatment for an enforced period of six months.

 

The gravity of his problems came to light in February when he was first sectioned and Gary Mabbutt, the Club, the Professional Footballers' Association and the Football Association, along with other footballing friends and family of the 42-year-old privately came together with the aim of providing the former England international with the medical care he required.

 

There remains the need for enforced and prolonged treatment, which Gary feels Gazza will now receive.

 

"Since Paul was first sectioned in February a number of people came together quietly - the Club, both directly and through the Tottenham Tribute Trust, the FA, the PFA - to provide support both practical and financial - and to work, along with his friends and family, with his specialists to get the best treatment for him," said Gary, captain during Gazza's three-year spell at the Lane from 1988-91.

 

"We were able to get treatment for Paul at the Priory and other clinics, but the problem was that when he was sober he would discharge himself only to relapse again.

 

"He was on the road to self-destruction so, after making every effort to protect his privacy, it was decided that we must enter the public domain in order to put some pressure through the media on the powers that be to have him sectioned.

 

"The Club has been kept very much up to date with everything and I have liaised with them on a daily basis. It has been a case of us all striving to help Paul through this difficult period of time."

 

Gary stressed that a dependence on alcohol is one of a number, but not the root cause, of Gazza's problems.

 

"I must make it clear that Paul is not just an alcoholic, that is not the situation. Some articles have portrayed this as simply an addiction to alcohol, but that is a symptom rather than a cause and there are far more serious problems that have to be addressed. He suffers from several disorders, including manic depression, that add to a pretty nasty cocktail of things going on in his head.

 

"Unfortunately, until they cure the first problem, they can't cure the second, third and fourth problem.

 

"The good thing now is that treatment can be administered on a sustained basis to deal with his addictions and other problems."

 

Daniel Levy, acknowledging the contribution made by Gary, said, "Gary Mabbutt has played an important role in helping Paul - he has worked tirelessly to help him through his difficult times and been a central point of liaison for support. While the plight of Paul has in some quarters been put down to one of simply alcoholism, Gary has highlighted the real cause of Paul's illness. With great patience and determination he has continued to gather support for his former teammate and called for him to be sectioned for his own long-term benefit.

 

"The fact that Paul is now sectioned offers him a real chance of recovery and I am sure I speak for many in saying we wish him well."

 

Good to Spurs are doing all they can to try and help Gazza get through this.

[@yourservice 67]

Great footballer in his day, but I've no time for the bloke now, emotional attention seeking alchy tbh

 

 

Billy doon the street is an alchy and nee fucker sections him!