How Much Do You Hate Sunderland?

[Tooj 17]

You'd definitely have to go back 2 or 3 generations but it was quite common for people to support one club more than the other but attend Sunderland games when Newcastle were away and vice-versa. It would have been a cheap form of entertainment back then (when there wasn’t that much else to do) and you wouldn’t have had the time or money to make the long journeys to away games. I doubt that many people walked the 20-odd mile round trip though

Only the true soopafans.

[Tom 14013]

You'd definitely have to go back 2 or 3 generations but it was quite common for people to support one club more than the other but attend Sunderland games when Newcastle were away and vice-versa. It would have been a cheap form of entertainment back then (when there wasn’t that much else to do) and you wouldn’t have had the time or money to make the long journeys to away games. I doubt that many people walked the 20-odd mile round trip though

Only the true soopafans.

 

With a boulder attached by a chain and NUFC tattooed on their foreheads

[Guest alex]

You'd definitely have to go back 2 or 3 generations but it was quite common for people to support one club more than the other but attend Sunderland games when Newcastle were away and vice-versa. It would have been a cheap form of entertainment back then (when there wasn’t that much else to do) and you wouldn’t have had the time or money to make the long journeys to away games. I doubt that many people walked the 20-odd mile round trip though

Only the true soopafans.

They used to brag about it aftewards by writing on a parchment message board that was at the Gallowgate back then.

[Tooj 17]

You'd definitely have to go back 2 or 3 generations but it was quite common for people to support one club more than the other but attend Sunderland games when Newcastle were away and vice-versa. It would have been a cheap form of entertainment back then (when there wasn’t that much else to do) and you wouldn’t have had the time or money to make the long journeys to away games. I doubt that many people walked the 20-odd mile round trip though

Only the true soopafans.

They used to brag about it aftewards by writing on a parchment message board that was at the Gallowgate back then.

[LeazesMag 0]

You'd definitely have to go back 2 or 3 generations but it was quite common for people to support one club more than the other but attend Sunderland games when Newcastle were away and vice-versa. It would have been a cheap form of entertainment back then (when there wasn’t that much else to do) and you wouldn’t have had the time or money to make the long journeys to away games. I doubt that many people walked the 20-odd mile round trip though

Only the true soopafans.

 

you've never had it so good

[Asprilla 96]

Both of me grandas when they were alive, and lots of older relatives in me family said back in their day they would go all around and watch what ever team was playing, even if it was Sunderland etc.

Yep, my old neighbour Adam who was 94 said he'd go to either game. He didn't hate them at all, just didn't support them like he did Newcastle. If he was watching Sunderland play someone else though, he wanted Sunderland to win.

[Tooj 17]

You'd definitely have to go back 2 or 3 generations but it was quite common for people to support one club more than the other but attend Sunderland games when Newcastle were away and vice-versa. It would have been a cheap form of entertainment back then (when there wasn’t that much else to do) and you wouldn’t have had the time or money to make the long journeys to away games. I doubt that many people walked the 20-odd mile round trip though

Only the true soopafans.

 

you've never had it so good

Not my fault I'm only 22 man.

[NJS 4411]

You'd definitely have to go back 2 or 3 generations but it was quite common for people to support one club more than the other but attend Sunderland games when Newcastle were away and vice-versa. It would have been a cheap form of entertainment back then (when there wasn’t that much else to do) and you wouldn’t have had the time or money to make the long journeys to away games. I doubt that many people walked the 20-odd mile round trip though

 

My Dad and my uncles certainly did go to both - this was up until the early 70s.

 

On the question I still consider SAFC to be the enemy - I get really wound up at derbies but this is contrasted by the fact I do have a few SAFC fans as mates. I certainly do "hate" them in the football sense a lot more than anyone else.

 

I think this is coming from a mixed town (S. Shields) and growing up seeing both sets of fans around (with the usual sprinkling of glory hunting scum thrown in).

[Happy Face 29]

I have to laugh at a couple of the lads I go up with. They get really rabid about mackems. Personally I think they're a shit team, from a shit 'city' who're more interested in Newcastle than their own team.

 

I find it difficult to hate what I pity.

[snakehips 0]

My father is a sunderland fan, despite coming from N.Shields Like others have posted, he used to go to sunlun one week and Newcastle the next.

 

Sunderland are pretty much the same as us - as far as supporters go. Trouble is that over the last twenty years, or so, a certain amount of hatred has grown up between us. This is ten times worse from them towards us, as they have watched NUFC being darlings of the media for a long time - something they find hard to accept; it's a bit like a really ugly girl, with serious zits, plukes, flaky skin, greasy hair, waarts, B.O. and a humpty back (sunlun) having a supermodel sister (Newcastle United) and the ugly lass having major problems coming to terms with the situation.

[@yourservice 67]

Explains the high attendances for Sunderland in the past then

[Guest alex]

I think the lack of (tangible) success for either club helps breed the bitterness. I.e. they'd hate us to win anything because we'd have won something more recently than them (one of the few things they have to cling onto, along with the 'top dogs' thing). Likewise we'd hate to see them win a cup because it's been so long since we've won anything that the mickey-taking would be unbearable. It's different if you don't live in the area of course as you don't bump into rival fans all the time.

[LeazesMag 0]

You'd definitely have to go back 2 or 3 generations but it was quite common for people to support one club more than the other but attend Sunderland games when Newcastle were away and vice-versa. It would have been a cheap form of entertainment back then (when there wasn’t that much else to do) and you wouldn’t have had the time or money to make the long journeys to away games. I doubt that many people walked the 20-odd mile round trip though

Only the true soopafans.

 

you've never had it so good

Not my fault I'm only 22 man.

 

 

aye , there are loads of things we did when there was no sky, the wrestling was on ITV when you wanted to watch the football and the battery on your radio was fucked and couldn't listen to radio 2 as it was then

 

There was a certain charm about watchig that videoprinter at twenty to 5 though ........

 

bloody hell, don't I feel old or what

Edited February 12, 2008 by LeazesMag

[Happy Face 29]

Loved the vidiprinter, don't understand why it made that sound though.

[Guest alex]

What ever happened to Dickie Davies? No relation to Ducker I take it.

[Happy Face 29]

What ever happened to Dickie Davies? No relation to Ducker I take it.

 

His namesake does match reports on Sky.

 

After leaving ITV Sport in the late 1980s, Dickie suffered a stroke but made a full recovery and later returned to television. Davies is referenced in the Half Man Half Biscuit song, "Dickie Davies Eyes".

 

[RlCO 0]

I hate the people of Sunderland and hence the place itself, and for good reason. They are truly scum, it's definitely a quality that comes from being raised there. Likewise, I hate the club because it is, unlike bigger clubs, exclusively supported by mackems or their mongrel relations. But I also laugh at the club too, for things like the worst points records, twice! So, I do hate the club, but not so much as the people themselves. I reserve true hatred of clubs for those that are deserving, and of equal standing for it to mean something, like Spurs or Everton.

[manc-mag 1]

What ever happened to Dickie Davies? No relation to Ducker I take it.

 

His namesake does match reports on Sky.

 

After leaving ITV Sport in the late 1980s, Dickie suffered a stroke but made a full recovery and later returned to television. Davies is referenced in the Half Man Half Biscuit song, "Dickie Davies Eyes".

 

 

If that's a take-off of the Kim Carnes song then it should be 'Barry Davies Eyes' tbh.

[zico martin 90]

What ever happened to Dickie Davies? No relation to Ducker I take it.

 

His namesake does match reports on Sky.

 

After leaving ITV Sport in the late 1980s, Dickie suffered a stroke but made a full recovery and later returned to television. Davies is referenced in the Half Man Half Biscuit song, "Dickie Davies Eyes".

 

 

If that's a take-off of the Kim Carnes song then it should be 'Barry Davies Eyes' tbh.

 

 

cracking song

 

i think Dickie scans better in the song than Barry would mind. And Dickie was certainly a bigger 'celebrity' at the time so dont diss the biscuit

[Guest Stevie]

I hate the people of Sunderland and hence the place itself, and for good reason. They are truly scum, it's definitely a quality that comes from being raised there. Likewise, I hate the club because it is, unlike bigger clubs, exclusively supported by mackems or their mongrel relations. But I also laugh at the club too, for things like the worst points records, twice! So, I do hate the club, but not so much as the people themselves. I reserve true hatred of clubs for those that are deserving, and of equal standing for it to mean something, like Spurs or Everton.

I'm shocked at who has written this, but this lad Rico is closest to how I feel, and the fact he's from Newcastle sums it up. Call it tribalistic, call it what you want, but I will go to my grave believing mackems COLLECTIVELY are cunts. Their existence it seems to me, isn't to improve who they are, but more to compete against and HATE all things Newcastle (notice I say Newcastle rather than Tyneside - people like Alex sum it up).

 

I'm pretty qualified to comment seeing as though I worked there for 4 years. I hate everything about Sunderland, I hate mackem people (collectively not individually), I hate their town (not city), I hate their football club, there's absolutely nothing I have any affinity about the place for. When you work there, they will go out their way to make you feel an outsider and talking about football oh fuck me, they're unbelievable. There was this old cunt worked at my place called "John Smith", I'm not making this up he got his wife off the internet, got her flown in from Vietnam or whatever, that's irrelevant anyway, am just tellin ye what sort of bloke he was, but he tried to justify Sunderland being a better known town around Europe, because the population of Sunderland Borough is bigger marginally than Newcastle upon Tyne. What an absolute cock of a man he was. The younger ones were just as bad, however there was one absolutely class mackem lad called Steve, he was a bit older than me, he'd never slag the toon, quite an intelligent, funny lad, who I always suspected of being in the Seaburn Casuals (even though using intelligent with that might be a contradiction in terms. Seriously though he was the only decent mackem bloke I encountered, rest were fuckin wanks. Mackem lasses are a bit better, but fuck me are they rough, they certainly shag though.

 

Anyway I pity them NO RACECOURSE, NO AIRPORT, NO MAINLINE RAILWAY STATION, SOON TO BE NO PREMIERSHIP FOOTBALL TEAM, A CITY BUT NO CATHEDRAL, ah but they've got a dog track.

 

I think most Sunderland fans are wanks, now I use Sunderland fans differently to mackems, because I reckon 50% of SAFC fans in the NE aren't even mackems technically. I class people from Washington, S Tyneside, Durham as mackems, but they'll tell you they're not but to be fair people from Durham seem much more refined and easier to get on with than proper mackems.

 

When my life flashes in front of me when I die, the things I'll take to my grave about Sunderland are:

 

1992 a mackem on Tyne Tees talking about Paul Bracewell's move to Newcastle "e's went from a beegur cloob tiv a smarler cloob"

 

1997 Premier Passions "eets mooah poleeticul than ewt else, we've beaan payahin fooa theyah metro-aah for twen-tee yurs, New-cassul as flerrished, while Soonluns turned in to a doomp"

 

I fuckin hate Sunderland. I'll write more later.

[Guest alex]

I was born in Newcastle btw Stevie.

[Holden McGroin 6783]

I was waiting for Stevie to enter this thread...

[Tom 14013]

I hate the people of Sunderland and hence the place itself, and for good reason. They are truly scum, it's definitely a quality that comes from being raised there. Likewise, I hate the club because it is, unlike bigger clubs, exclusively supported by mackems or their mongrel relations. But I also laugh at the club too, for things like the worst points records, twice! So, I do hate the club, but not so much as the people themselves. I reserve true hatred of clubs for those that are deserving, and of equal standing for it to mean something, like Spurs or Everton.

I'm shocked at who has written this, but this lad Rico is closest to how I feel, and the fact he's from Newcastle sums it up. Call it tribalistic, call it what you want, but I will go to my grave believing mackems COLLECTIVELY are cunts. Their existence it seems to me, isn't to improve who they are, but more to compete against and HATE all things Newcastle (notice I say Newcastle rather than Tyneside - people like Alex sum it up).

 

I'm pretty qualified to comment seeing as though I worked there for 4 years. I hate everything about Sunderland, I hate mackem people (collectively not individually), I hate their town (not city), I hate their football club, there's absolutely nothing I have any affinity about the place for. When you work there, they will go out their way to make you feel an outsider and talking about football oh fuck me, they're unbelievable. There was this old cunt worked at my place called "John Smith", I'm not making this up he got his wife off the internet, got her flown in from Vietnam or whatever, that's irrelevant anyway, am just tellin ye what sort of bloke he was, but he tried to justify Sunderland being a better known town around Europe, because the population of Sunderland Borough is bigger marginally than Newcastle upon Tyne. What an absolute cock of a man he was. The younger ones were just as bad, however there was one absolutely class mackem lad called Steve, he was a bit older than me, he'd never slag the toon, quite an intelligent, funny lad, who I always suspected of being in the Seaburn Casuals (even though using intelligent with that might be a contradiction in terms. Seriously though he was the only decent mackem bloke I encountered, rest were fuckin wanks. Mackem lasses are a bit better, but fuck me are they rough, they certainly shag though.

 

Anyway I pity them NO RACECOURSE, NO AIRPORT, NO MAINLINE RAILWAY STATION, SOON TO BE NO PREMIERSHIP FOOTBALL TEAM, A CITY BUT NO CATHEDRAL, ah but they've got a dog track.

 

I think most Sunderland fans are wanks, now I use Sunderland fans differently to mackems, because I reckon 50% of SAFC fans in the NE aren't even mackems technically. I class people from Washington, S Tyneside, Durham as mackems, but they'll tell you they're not but to be fair people from Durham seem much more refined and easier to get on with than proper mackems.

 

When my life flashes in front of me when I die, the things I'll take to my grave about Sunderland are:

 

1992 a mackem on Tyne Tees talking about Paul Bracewell's move to Newcastle "e's went from a beegur cloob tiv a smarler cloob"

 

1997 Premier Passions "eets mooah poleeticul than ewt else, we've beaan payahin fooa theyah metro-aah for twen-tee yurs, New-cassul as flerrished, while Soonluns turned in to a doomp"

 

I fuckin hate Sunderland. I'll write more later.

 

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[Tom 14013]

I was born in Newcastle btw Stevie.

 

I heart operation two hours after i was born that saved my life in Newcastle, but then once alive and doing fine they sent me back to Durham, bastards

[Guest alex]

I think Stevie thinks I'm from N. Shields for some reason.