Tooj 17 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Also, Moncur was before my time, but put it this way. If Moncur is remotely similar to Taylor, Moncur was fucking horrendous. captained the under 21's the other night and he's shite ? You haven't seen Cacapa brushed aside on numerous occasions this season I take it No more than I have Taylor, who gets away with it more, being a local lad and not a darkie. Cacapa captained Lyon to a lot of trophies, a Lyon team containing top players. Taylor captaining the Under 21s does make him shite, I agree. How many other under 21 good defenders can you think of? Richards, but he actually is good so gets senior games. That has aboslutely nothing to do with it. Oh, and hasnt Boumsong signed for Lyon. Cris also plays for them and quite frankily played one of the worst centre back performance I have ever seen when we player Leverkusen. Cris who is now also a cracking defender btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6544 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Also, Moncur was before my time, but put it this way. If Moncur is remotely similar to Taylor, Moncur was fucking horrendous. captained the under 21's the other night and he's shite ? You haven't seen Cacapa brushed aside on numerous occasions this season I take it No more than I have Taylor, who gets away with it more, being a local lad and not a darkie. Cacapa captained Lyon to a lot of trophies, a Lyon team containing top players. Taylor captaining the Under 21s does make him shite, I agree. How many other under 21 good defenders can you think of? Richards, but he actually is good so gets senior games. That has aboslutely nothing to do with it. Oh, and hasnt Boumsong signed for Lyon. Cris also plays for them and quite frankily played one of the worst centre back performance I have ever seen when we player Leverkusen. Cris who is now also a cracking defender btw. Ahhh, excellent. You can see that players can improve then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 You're basically judging Cris on one or two games tbh, we've seen Taylor in over 70. He's fucking atrocious. Gives away stupid fouls around the edge of the box that piles the pressure on. Can't head a ball, can't organise a defence no matter how much he points and tries to push up. Every game he's pointing, trying to organise. Like I said earlier he done this on Saturday and completely forgot about marking Carew. What a fucking spanner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6544 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Didnt you say Cacapa was the best centre half you'd ever seen bar Woodgate after about 4 games??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 (edited) Including Woodgate tbh It was more than 4 games though Didn't you just say opinions can change? Cacapa's reading of the game was exceptional at the start of the season. He's fell to pieces since the Portsmouth game though. Oh and I love the cretinous use of lololololololoollll1!!!111oneoneeleven in trying to put an argument to bed. Edited February 11, 2008 by Sima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6544 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I hate people that use the cool smiley when they quite clearly aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I hate people that use the cool smiley when they quite clearly aren't. Basically the epitome of cool tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshore Toon 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Same. Not many of us can pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I hate people that use the cool smiley when they quite clearly aren't. Me too. That smilie should only be used by me !!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111 (does that end this argument?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Including Woodgate tbh It was more than 4 games though Didn't you just say opinions can change? Cacapa's reading of the game was exceptional at the start of the season. He's fell to pieces since the Portsmouth game though. Oh and I love the cretinous use of lololololololoollll1!!!111oneoneeleven in trying to put an argument to bed. So you're admitting he hasn't the physical strength to be a good premiership defender, now that its been exposed to everyone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 (edited) Including Woodgate tbh It was more than 4 games though Didn't you just say opinions can change? Cacapa's reading of the game was exceptional at the start of the season. He's fell to pieces since the Portsmouth game though. Oh and I love the cretinous use of lololololololoollll1!!!111oneoneeleven in trying to put an argument to bed. So you're admitting he hasn't the physical strength to be a good premiership defender, now that its been exposed to everyone ? His lack of strength was embarrassingly shown up against Portsmouth and Benjani isn't the biggest anyway. Nevertheless, he's still a better defender than Taylor. Edited February 11, 2008 by Sima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Including Woodgate tbh It was more than 4 games though Didn't you just say opinions can change? Cacapa's reading of the game was exceptional at the start of the season. He's fell to pieces since the Portsmouth game though. Oh and I love the cretinous use of lololololololoollll1!!!111oneoneeleven in trying to put an argument to bed. So you're admitting he hasn't the physical strength to be a good premiership defender, now that its been exposed to everyone ? His lack of strength was embarrassingly shown up against Portsmouth and Benjani isn't the biggest anyway. Nevertheless, he's still a better defender than Taylor. I'm pleased you think lacking strength isn't a very serious drawback for a central defender in the premiership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Taylor is alright, nothing more really. Cacapa is a big fucking donkey though imo, we need Faye back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigThompers Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Including Woodgate tbh It was more than 4 games though Didn't you just say opinions can change? Cacapa's reading of the game was exceptional at the start of the season. He's fell to pieces since the Portsmouth game though. Oh and I love the cretinous use of lololololololoollll1!!!111oneoneeleven in trying to put an argument to bed. So you're admitting he hasn't the physical strength to be a good premiership defender, now that its been exposed to everyone ? His lack of strength was embarrassingly shown up against Portsmouth and Benjani isn't the biggest anyway. Nevertheless, he's still a better defender than Taylor. I'm pleased you think lacking strength isn't a very serious drawback for a central defender in the premiership You clearly don't see not having a brain as a drawback, which is commendable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Taylor is alright, nothing more really. Cacapa is a big fucking donkey though imo, we need Faye back. Care to explain why you think that Ally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I haven't seen one single post in this thread convincing me what Taylor is actually good at. I don't even see the potential in him others talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I'm pleased you think lacking strength isn't a very serious drawback for a central defender in the premiership Where have I said that you insufferable dullard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I'm pleased you think lacking strength isn't a very serious drawback for a central defender in the premiership Where have I said that you insufferable dullard? Tbf, you pretty much highlighted it as a major drawback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I haven't seen one single post in this thread convincing me what Taylor is actually good at. I don't even see the potential in him others talk about. He could potnetially have someone class next to him, which would make him better apparently. That's make him better btw, not carry him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I'm pleased you think lacking strength isn't a very serious drawback for a central defender in the premiership Where have I said that you insufferable dullard? Tbf, you pretty much highlighted it as a major drawback. I didn't, just said he was shown up against Benjani. A deficit in strength can be masked with other abilities though. Although Cacapa maybe hasn't got the quality to completely mask it. Taylor however lacks pace, anticipation, composure, strength and a brain of any kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Including Woodgate tbh It was more than 4 games though Didn't you just say opinions can change? Cacapa's reading of the game was exceptional at the start of the season. He's fell to pieces since the Portsmouth game though. Oh and I love the cretinous use of lololololololoollll1!!!111oneoneeleven in trying to put an argument to bed. So you're admitting he hasn't the physical strength to be a good premiership defender, now that its been exposed to everyone ? His lack of strength was embarrassingly shown up against Portsmouth and Benjani isn't the biggest anyway. Nevertheless, he's still a better defender than Taylor. I'm pleased you think lacking strength isn't a very serious drawback for a central defender in the premiership You clearly don't see not having a brain as a drawback, which is commendable aye, Cacapa is the bees knees like, the new Irving Nattrass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I'm pleased you think lacking strength isn't a very serious drawback for a central defender in the premiership Where have I said that you insufferable dullard? Tbf, you pretty much highlighted it as a major drawback. I didn't, just said he was shown up against Benjani. A deficit in strength can be masked with other abilities though. Although Cacapa maybe hasn't got the quality to completely mask it. Taylor however lacks pace, anticipation, composure, strength and a brain of any kind. Lacks strength ? HOHO. As for lacking a brain of any kind, you should know all about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9741 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 LM, genuine question. What do you think are Taylor's (maybe a bit raw) strengths that make him an exceptional talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I'm pleased you think lacking strength isn't a very serious drawback for a central defender in the premiership Where have I said that you insufferable dullard? Tbf, you pretty much highlighted it as a major drawback. I didn't, just said he was shown up against Benjani. A deficit in strength can be masked with other abilities though. Although Cacapa maybe hasn't got the quality to completely mask it. Taylor however lacks pace, anticipation, composure, strength and a brain of any kind. I wasn't having a pop at you btw. What I meant was that, rather than what Leazes said, you were admitting it was a drawback to his game. I agree you can make it for it in other areas too. He lacks pace as well but his reading of the game in particular is excellent. His problem is that he's probably a bit old to be adapting to the Premiership where the physical side is crucial and that's where he struggles. I like Cacapa though, but he's a continental-type sweeper for me and for that reason needs a Faye-type 'big strong lad' alongside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Ah shit, my mistake. Taylor does have strength, particularly when he's barging players over on the edge of the area. He even makes Ameobi look patient in the tackle tbh. How many penalties does this spanner give away anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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