acrossthepond 877 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 LONDON, Jan 31 (Reuters) - Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson has questioned Kevin Keegan's decision to return to Newcastle United for a second spell in charge. 'Sometimes it is wrong to go back to a club for a second spell,' Ferguson was quoted as saying in Thursday's Daily Telegraph newspaper. 'There are examples of managers doing it and having relative success but no outstanding success, so I will be interested to see how Kevin copes with it.' Former Newcastle player Keegan, who previously managed the club for five years in the 1990's, took over from Sam Allardyce earlier this month. He almost took Newcastle to the Premier League title in 1996 but the team blew a 12-point lead and Keegan famously lost his temper in a television rant at Ferguson before finishing runners-up to United. Keegan has not coached since leaving Manchester City in 2005 and Ferguson was unsure what effect that would have on Newcastle. 'Some managers have taken sabbaticals and that's been a problem for them,' Ferguson said. 'It's difficult to say how it will affect him not having seen any games in three years. He's had a rest and he will have the freshness that brings, so who knows? 'But the game has definitely changed and it's changing all the time,' Ferguson added. Newcastle, 12th in the Premier League, 30 points behind leaders United, have not won or scored a goal in the former England manager's three matches in charge so far. Scum. I lose more respect for his fat head every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 LONDON, Jan 31 (Reuters) - Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson has questioned Kevin Keegan's decision to return to Newcastle United for a second spell in charge. 'Sometimes it is wrong to go back to a club for a second spell,' Ferguson was quoted as saying in Thursday's Daily Telegraph newspaper. 'There are examples of managers doing it and having relative success but no outstanding success, so I will be interested to see how Kevin copes with it.' Former Newcastle player Keegan, who previously managed the club for five years in the 1990's, took over from Sam Allardyce earlier this month. He almost took Newcastle to the Premier League title in 1996 but the team blew a 12-point lead and Keegan famously lost his temper in a television rant at Ferguson before finishing runners-up to United. Keegan has not coached since leaving Manchester City in 2005 and Ferguson was unsure what effect that would have on Newcastle. 'Some managers have taken sabbaticals and that's been a problem for them,' Ferguson said. 'It's difficult to say how it will affect him not having seen any games in three years. He's had a rest and he will have the freshness that brings, so who knows? 'But the game has definitely changed and it's changing all the time,' Ferguson added. Newcastle, 12th in the Premier League, 30 points behind leaders United, have not won or scored a goal in the former England manager's three matches in charge so far. Scum. I lose more respect for his fat head every day. I think if we look at it open minded they are fair comments and something most of us have considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Hope he's as spot on as he was about Allardyce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 'Sometimes it is wrong to go back to a club for a second spell,' 'There are examples of managers doing it and having relative success but no outstanding success, so I will be interested to see how Kevin copes with it.' 'Some managers have taken sabbaticals and that's been a problem for them,' . 'It's difficult to say how it will affect him not having seen any games in three years. He's had a rest and he will have the freshness that brings, so who knows? 'But the game has definitely changed and it's changing all the time,' He has said that some people who have gone back for a second spell hasn't worked and that the game has changed and is changing all the time. What exactly has he said wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 'Sometimes it is wrong to go back to a club for a second spell,' 'There are examples of managers doing it and having relative success but no outstanding success, so I will be interested to see how Kevin copes with it.' 'Some managers have taken sabbaticals and that's been a problem for them,' . 'It's difficult to say how it will affect him not having seen any games in three years. He's had a rest and he will have the freshness that brings, so who knows? 'But the game has definitely changed and it's changing all the time,' He has said that some people who have gone back for a second spell hasn't worked and that the game has changed and is changing all the time. What exactly has he said wrong? Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 'Sometimes it is wrong to go back to a club for a second spell,' 'There are examples of managers doing it and having relative success but no outstanding success, so I will be interested to see how Kevin copes with it.' 'Some managers have taken sabbaticals and that's been a problem for them,' . 'It's difficult to say how it will affect him not having seen any games in three years. He's had a rest and he will have the freshness that brings, so who knows? 'But the game has definitely changed and it's changing all the time,' He has said that some people who have gone back for a second spell hasn't worked and that the game has changed and is changing all the time. What exactly has he said wrong? Exactly! Can't think of anything more to say so I'll just quote for truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Fergie's done nothing wrong here tbh Oh and bitter? Fucking hell man, about what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaugrana909 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 LONDON, Jan 31 (Reuters) - Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson has questioned Kevin Keegan's decision to return to Newcastle United for a second spell in charge. 'Sometimes it is wrong to go back to a club for a second spell,' Ferguson was quoted as saying in Thursday's Daily Telegraph newspaper. 'There are examples of managers doing it and having relative success but no outstanding success, so I will be interested to see how Kevin copes with it.' Former Newcastle player Keegan, who previously managed the club for five years in the 1990's, took over from Sam Allardyce earlier this month. He almost took Newcastle to the Premier League title in 1996 but the team blew a 12-point lead and Keegan famously lost his temper in a television rant at Ferguson before finishing runners-up to United. Keegan has not coached since leaving Manchester City in 2005 and Ferguson was unsure what effect that would have on Newcastle. 'Some managers have taken sabbaticals and that's been a problem for them,' Ferguson said. 'It's difficult to say how it will affect him not having seen any games in three years. He's had a rest and he will have the freshness that brings, so who knows? 'But the game has definitely changed and it's changing all the time,' Ferguson added. Newcastle, 12th in the Premier League, 30 points behind leaders United, have not won or scored a goal in the former England manager's three matches in charge so far. Scum. I lose more respect for his fat head every day. Bitter? Haha, I think we can all see who is bitter. Some ppl were just born to complain, weren't they.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 877 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share Posted January 31, 2008 Fergie's done nothing wrong here tbh Oh and bitter? Fucking hell man, about what? No surprise the fat man's got your backing. Glory glory, eh mate? I'm just saying he's got a lot to say about our business, both about Allardyce and Keegan. Seems like it's open season for anyone to take a pop but especially him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Fergie's done nothing wrong here tbh Oh and bitter? Fucking hell man, about what? No surprise the fat man's got your backing. Glory glory, eh mate? I'm just saying he's got a lot to say about our business, both about Allardyce and Keegan. Seems like it's open season for anyone to take a pop but especially him. Aye because journalists are asking their opinion on the subject. You also say its open season and hes taking a pop at us...where exactly is he doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I'm at a loss to see what you think he's got to be bitter at tbh.... Correct me if iam wrong, but didn't they beat us to the title and not the other way around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I'm at a loss to see what you think he's got to be bitter at tbh.... Correct me if iam wrong, but didn't they beat us to the title and not the other way around? Correct, and he's still there after all those years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 He's not that fat either really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Fergie's done nothing wrong here tbh Oh and bitter? Fucking hell man, about what? No surprise the fat man's got your backing. Glory glory, eh mate? I'm just saying he's got a lot to say about our business, both about Allardyce and Keegan. Seems like it's open season for anyone to take a pop but especially him. Seriously, just log off eh? You're utterly embarrassing yourself here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 He's not that fat either really. What I was thinking... Basically ATP's opinion is 100% wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3355 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Truth is if he just called SAF a cunt, we'd all agree. Pointing and laughing at something he's said that happens to have more than a grain of truth to it - only makes one person the laughing stock. I'd still luv it if KK proved him wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Fergie is making sense from what I can tell. Nothing inappropriate at all. He didn't say all managers coming back for a second spell are doomed to failure. Let's hope KK fits into that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Fergie's done nothing wrong here tbh Oh and bitter? Fucking hell man, about what? He's just starting his head games early is all. What he says is "true" (as much to him as anyone else - would he have the same success anywhere else, or if he came back after 11 years to ManUre? Probably not), but really it's just irrelevant. There's no mystical power or universal truth saying Keegan can or cannot be successful (as, more, or less) than he was before... it just depends on so many things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Fergie's done nothing wrong here tbh Oh and bitter? Fucking hell man, about what? He's just starting his head games early is all. What he says is "true" (as much to him as anyone else - would he have the same success anywhere else, or if he came back after 11 years to ManUre? Probably not), but really it's just irrelevant. There's no mystical power or universal truth saying Keegan can or cannot be successful (as, more, or less) than he was before... it just depends on so many things. He doesn't see us as any kind of threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Fergie's done nothing wrong here tbh Oh and bitter? Fucking hell man, about what? He's just starting his head games early is all. What he says is "true" (as much to him as anyone else - would he have the same success anywhere else, or if he came back after 11 years to ManUre? Probably not), but really it's just irrelevant. There's no mystical power or universal truth saying Keegan can or cannot be successful (as, more, or less) than he was before... it just depends on so many things. He doesn't see us as any kind of threat. I would imagine he's planning to make it stay that way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Fergie's done nothing wrong here tbh Oh and bitter? Fucking hell man, about what? He's just starting his head games early is all. What he says is "true" (as much to him as anyone else - would he have the same success anywhere else, or if he came back after 11 years to ManUre? Probably not), but really it's just irrelevant. There's no mystical power or universal truth saying Keegan can or cannot be successful (as, more, or less) than he was before... it just depends on so many things. He doesn't see us as any kind of threat. I would imagine he's planning to make it stay that way too. We do that ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Fergie's done nothing wrong here tbh Oh and bitter? Fucking hell man, about what? He's just starting his head games early is all. What he says is "true" (as much to him as anyone else - would he have the same success anywhere else, or if he came back after 11 years to ManUre? Probably not), but really it's just irrelevant. There's no mystical power or universal truth saying Keegan can or cannot be successful (as, more, or less) than he was before... it just depends on so many things. He doesn't see us as any kind of threat. I would imagine he's planning to make it stay that way too. We do that ourselves. True, but there's no harm in getting a bit of groundwork in and giving the ball a little nudge to keep it rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 We're very diferent clubs, run in vastly different ways and we really should regard ourselves as irrelevant to them these days. Fergie's sort of having a dig with what he's saying in a self-serving way (as Fop alludes), but then he's entitled to and if we're honest that's where we worry most about Kev-the mind games battle. As we are irrelevant to them then we should try and regard comments like that as irrelevant to us. That's the best policy. If it works out or not it will have zero to do with Ferguson's powers as a clairvoyant but potentially more to do with his powers of psychology. Just best avoided altogether iyam as we can't win this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 (edited) We're very diferent clubs, run in vastly different ways and we really should regard ourselves as irrelevant to them these days. Fergie's sort of having a dig with what he's saying in a self-serving way (as Fop alludes), but then he's entitled to and if we're honest that's where we worry most about Kev-the mind games battle. As we are irrelevant to them then we should try and regard comments like that as irrelevant to us. That's the best policy. If it works out or not it will have zero to do with Ferguson's powers as a clairvoyant but potentially more to do with his powers of psychology. Just best avoided altogether iyam as we can't win this one. Absolutely. There's no possibility of winning against Ferguson at that game. Just keep quiet, get on with things and try to progress.... Edited February 1, 2008 by Asprilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 The art of playing minds games is to make it appear you are not playing mind games. SAF truly is a Sun Tzu zen master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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