Chaser 1255 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Derby turned down our offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 If it was the reported £2m then hardly a surprise they turned it down. Hope we go back with a higher bid or maybe a cash plus Shola offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 10 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Is derby closer to Barton's Clinic? Get him away as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Buy one McShola and get a free Terry Mac! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 10 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Derby snub Magpies bid for Barnes Giles Barnes Barnes has scored twice in 20 games for Derby this season Derby have turned down an offer from Newcastle for Giles Barnes - but are prepared to sell if the price is right. The midfielder, 19, has been linked with Tottenham and West Ham, but the Magpies are the first with a firm bid. Jewell said: "What they offered isn't unreasonable but he isn't going on the cheap, he's a player we'd like to keep. "But if Giles Barnes wants to go somewhere else and play in the Premier League we won't stand in his way, as long as it's right for the club." Barnes impressed as the Rams won promotion via the play-offs last season. He missed the early part of the current campaign with a broken foot but has been one of the few successes for the Premier League's bottom club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Are Derby relatively flush now they've been taken over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Derby snub Magpies bid for Barnes Giles Barnes Barnes has scored twice in 20 games for Derby this season Derby have turned down an offer from Newcastle for Giles Barnes - but are prepared to sell if the price is right. The midfielder, 19, has been linked with Tottenham and West Ham, but the Magpies are the first with a firm bid. Jewell said: "What they offered isn't unreasonable but he isn't going on the cheap, he's a player we'd like to keep. "But if Giles Barnes wants to go somewhere else and play in the Premier League we won't stand in his way, as long as it's right for the club." Barnes impressed as the Rams won promotion via the play-offs last season. He missed the early part of the current campaign with a broken foot but has been one of the few successes for the Premier League's bottom club. That bit comes across as he can go as long as we're not paying his loyalty bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 10 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Well they do know we are in need of players and that there is only a couple days of the transfer window. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think if we get him, it'll be one of those were the deal is done right at the very end of the transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I R Toon Fan 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Dont think Derby can afford to reject a firm 5 mill offer tbh. Not the biggest fan a the minute though. Looks a good prospect but we need an expieienced Att Midfielder that isn't afraid to scare defenders and can skin them without trying. Aren't many around, Pandev perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4855 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Dont think Derby can afford to reject a firm 5 mill offer tbh. Not the biggest fan a the minute though. Looks a good prospect but we need an expieienced Att Midfielder that isn't afraid to scare defenders and can skin them without trying. Aren't many around, Pandev perhaps? there are about 3 of them in the world that's why they are the world best players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I R Toon Fan 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Not saying it's going to happen. Would be nice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Has the potential to be great, currently on a par with Milner IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I R Toon Fan 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Great is a strong word. Time will tell. Does he put in the effort Milner does though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 7 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Great is a strong word. Time will tell. Does he put in the effort Milner does though? Nope but is still on par... better than milner then wouldn't mind him but 5m seems a bit steep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I R Toon Fan 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Yep. Doesn't look good on the old signings front. May have to wait until summer. Our new scouts with fancie names better pull their fingers out and get a list going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Isn't he a bit of a naughty boy? (not that that has stopped us before). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I R Toon Fan 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Could be a mate for Wisey then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Led by Dennis Wise, Newcastle United’s new-look player recruitment department has made an impact at St James’ Park, with Derby County yesterday rejecting a £1.5 million offer for Giles Barnes, their young midfield player. Tony Jimenez, the Newcastle vice-president (player recruitment), has been leading negotiations with Derby, although a deal is understood to be unlikely. Paul Jewell, the Derby manager, values Barnes at £3 million – “I don’t see why we should let him go cheap,” he said – but while Newcastle admire the 19-year-old, they are reluctant to pay so much for a player who has made only 58 starts in league football. Strengthening the midfield is not a priority, but it demonstrates Newcastle’s determination to ensure that their new system hits the ground running. Chris Mort, the club’s chairman, confirmed yesterday that Wise, who stepped down as Leeds United’s manager on Monday, has been appointed executive director (football), while Jeff Vetere leaves Real Madrid to become the club’s technical co-ordinator. Along with Wise and Vetere, Jimenez, 42, will be involved in signing new players, while Wise will also have involvement with the club’s academy. “This is all part of the vision that recently helped us to secure Kevin Keegan’s return to the club as manager,” Mort, rejecting reports that Keegan was unaware of or unhappy with the continental-style arrangement, said. “Two of the conclusions of our strategic review were that the club would benefit from having a football person involved at board level and that further senior resources are needed for recruiting players of the highest quality from this country and further afield. “Dennis would like to move away from day-to-day football management to a board role and, with his considerable energy and intelligence, we believe he will do very well. “With Kevin able to devote his efforts to developing and running the first-team squad, Dennis, Tony and Jeff will each help us to secure success for Newcastle United.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I R Toon Fan 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 We mustn't rate him that highly if we wont pay 3 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Led by Dennis Wise, Newcastle United’s new-look player recruitment department has made an impact at St James’ Park, with Derby County yesterday rejecting a £1.5 million offer for Giles Barnes, their young midfield player. Tony Jimenez, the Newcastle vice-president (player recruitment), has been leading negotiations with Derby, although a deal is understood to be unlikely. Paul Jewell, the Derby manager, values Barnes at £3 million – “I don’t see why we should let him go cheap,” he said – but while Newcastle admire the 19-year-old, they are reluctant to pay so much for a player who has made only 58 starts in league football. Strengthening the midfield is not a priority, but it demonstrates Newcastle’s determination to ensure that their new system hits the ground running. Chris Mort, the club’s chairman, confirmed yesterday that Wise, who stepped down as Leeds United’s manager on Monday, has been appointed executive director (football), while Jeff Vetere leaves Real Madrid to become the club’s technical co-ordinator. Along with Wise and Vetere, Jimenez, 42, will be involved in signing new players, while Wise will also have involvement with the club’s academy. “This is all part of the vision that recently helped us to secure Kevin Keegan’s return to the club as manager,” Mort, rejecting reports that Keegan was unaware of or unhappy with the continental-style arrangement, said. “Two of the conclusions of our strategic review were that the club would benefit from having a football person involved at board level and that further senior resources are needed for recruiting players of the highest quality from this country and further afield. “Dennis would like to move away from day-to-day football management to a board role and, with his considerable energy and intelligence, we believe he will do very well. “With Kevin able to devote his efforts to developing and running the first-team squad, Dennis, Tony and Jeff will each help us to secure success for Newcastle United.” Aye course it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Led by Dennis Wise, Newcastle United’s new-look player recruitment department has made an impact at St James’ Park, with Derby County yesterday rejecting a £1.5 million offer for Giles Barnes, their young midfield player. Tony Jimenez, the Newcastle vice-president (player recruitment), has been leading negotiations with Derby, although a deal is understood to be unlikely. Paul Jewell, the Derby manager, values Barnes at £3 million – “I don’t see why we should let him go cheap,” he said – but while Newcastle admire the 19-year-old, they are reluctant to pay so much for a player who has made only 58 starts in league football. Strengthening the midfield is not a priority, but it demonstrates Newcastle’s determination to ensure that their new system hits the ground running. Chris Mort, the club’s chairman, confirmed yesterday that Wise, who stepped down as Leeds United’s manager on Monday, has been appointed executive director (football), while Jeff Vetere leaves Real Madrid to become the club’s technical co-ordinator. Along with Wise and Vetere, Jimenez, 42, will be involved in signing new players, while Wise will also have involvement with the club’s academy. “This is all part of the vision that recently helped us to secure Kevin Keegan’s return to the club as manager,” Mort, rejecting reports that Keegan was unaware of or unhappy with the continental-style arrangement, said. “Two of the conclusions of our strategic review were that the club would benefit from having a football person involved at board level and that further senior resources are needed for recruiting players of the highest quality from this country and further afield. “Dennis would like to move away from day-to-day football management to a board role and, with his considerable energy and intelligence, we believe he will do very well. “With Kevin able to devote his efforts to developing and running the first-team squad, Dennis, Tony and Jeff will each help us to secure success for Newcastle United.” Aye course it's not. I thought that. I wouldn't have said £3mil was excessive for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Villa are also believed to be interested in Giles Barnes, but the Daily Mirror says Newcastle will beat them to the punch with a £2m bid for the winger, while other sources claim that Toon will instead spend the money on 25 clown wigs, a bunch of red noses, some of those flowers that shoot water and a tiny little bicycle that Keggy and Dennis Wise will do loop-de-loops on at half-time in a desperate bid to persuade 50,000 fans that one shot on target every 180 minutes is entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 From the Independent: On the day that Newcastle United confirmed Dennis Wise's appointment as "Executive Director (Football)", another new senior figure at St James' Park, Tony Jimenez, was busy on the telephone to Derby County attempting to buy the 19-year-old midfielder Giles Barnes. Jimenez offered £1.5m to Derby; they said no and want close to double that sum. The transfer may yet happen as it is believed Barnes is keen on moving to Newcastle, and it would not be unfeasible for personal terms to have been discussed already. But it is Jimenez's involvement that illustrates his increasingly influential role at the club. Jimenez, 42, was given the title yesterday of "Vice President (Player Recruitment)" and now essentially handles transfer dealings at Newcastle. He has held no equivalent official post in football before but is connected to Newcastle owner Mike Ashley via Paul Kemsley, the former Tottenham director. There is something of Tottenham's recent operating procedure to the effort to buy Barnes. Tom Huddlestone, a similar Derby teenager, moved from Pride Park to White Hart Lane. Barnes is far from unknown but just who today identifies such a player as being an appropriate Newcastle target remains uncertain – he may even be Wise's first recommendation. Kevin Keegan will not have seen Barnes in the flesh – Keegan said he has not watched a live game for three years prior to his return – though Jeff Vetere may be a factor. Vetere was the third Newcastle appointment announced yesterday. His title is "Technical Co-ordinator". Vetere is an experienced (if young at 41) scout who worked under Alan Curbishley at Charlton Athletic for several years. Last year he spent three months at Real Madrid in a scouting capacity. "Dennis will assist the board on football-related matters, including the development of the club's academy and player recruitment," read a club statement. "He will report to the chairman. Tony and Jeff will also assist in player recruitment." The chairman, Chris Mort, keen to counter the impression that this has been foisted upon Keegan, added: "This is all part of the vision that recently helped us to secure Kevin Keegan's return to the club as manager. "Two of the conclusions of our strategic review, since acquiring the club, were that the club would benefit from having a football person involved at board level, which it has not had historically, and that further senior resources are needed for recruiting players of the highest quality from this country and further afield. "Dennis would like to move away from day-to-day football management to a board role and, with his considerable energy and intelligence, we believe he will do very well in this new position. "With Kevin able to devote his efforts to developing and running the first team squad, Dennis, Tony and Jeff will each help us to secure success for Newcastle United Football Club at all levels and for the long-term. One or two further key appointments will follow in the months ahead." Leeds have confirmed the appointment of former captain Gary McAllister to replace Wise. The former midfielder, 43, becomes the club's third manager in 16 months following the sacking of Kevin Blackwell in September 2006. Like their Newcastle counterparts, Leeds fans are well used to managerial comings and goings. Since David O'Leary's departure in June 2002, Leeds fans have seen seven different managers, including caretaker Eddie Gray, in the job. "The job brief is promotion," McAllister said. "I'm here until June and quite simply my job is to come here and kick-start it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 878 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Villa are also believed to be interested in Giles Barnes, but the Daily Mirror says Newcastle will beat them to the punch with a £2m bid for the winger, while other sources claim that Toon will instead spend the money on 25 clown wigs, a bunch of red noses, some of those flowers that shoot water and a tiny little bicycle that Keggy and Dennis Wise will do loop-de-loops on at half-time in a desperate bid to persuade 50,000 fans that one shot on target every 180 minutes is entertainment. Can't get past how they keep talking about our last games as though we were playing Birmingham or Fulham, it's Arsenal away we're talking about FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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