Park Life 71 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 McDonald's A-level 'tough course', says Brown "The prime minister has defended the accreditation of in-company qualifications after it was announced that staff at McDonald's could gain the equivalent of an A-level in burger bar management. The fast food giant, Network Rail and the airline Flybe are the first three companies to win government approval to become an exam board. The Qualifications and Curriculum Authority has approved a pilot "basic shift manager" course, which will train staff in everything they need to run a McDonald's outlet, from marketing to human resources and customer service skills. The budget airline Flybe will start piloting their "airline trainer programme" in the summer, which will cover everything from engineering to cabin crew training. Much of the course will fit with the QCA's Qualifications and Credit Framework, which allows credits for units of work to build up to full qualifications over time." http://education.guardian.co.uk/alevels/st...2248133,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 The budget airline Flybe will start piloting their "airline trainer programme" *Groan* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31644 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Probably more challenging than media studies tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Madness? Training staff in their job? It's insane like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Madness? Training staff in their job? It's insane like. I know an 'A' level in burger bar management would be a step up for you Nicos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Madness? Training staff in their job? It's insane like. I know an 'A' level in burger bar management would be a step up for you Nicos. It's always been the dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Madness? Training staff in their job? It's insane like. I know an 'A' level in burger bar management would be a step up for you Nicos. It's always been the dream. Seriously man, 'believe' and someday you will get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Good idea this, just a shame that it's McDonald's signed up to the pilot scheme given that the qualification will inevitably have to compete with the additional stigma of the 'McJob' label. Think their participation at the outset is probably counter productive. Time to stop being so fucking elitest about qualifications and writing people off just because they're not particularly academic at the arbitrary age of 16 or whatever. Ivory towers and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Madness? Training staff in their job? It's insane like. I know an 'A' level in burger bar management would be a step up for you Nicos. It's always been the dream. Joint Honours with Film Studies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WubbleUC 0 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Time to stop being so fucking elitest about qualifications and writing people off just because they're not particularly academic at the arbitrary age of 16 or whatever. Ivory towers and all that. Damn fucking right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Good idea this, just a shame that it's McDonald's signed up to the pilot scheme given that the qualification will inevitably have to compete with the additional stigma of the 'McJob' label. Think their participation at the outset is probably counter productive. Time to stop being so fucking elitest about qualifications and writing people off just because they're not particularly academic at the arbitrary age of 16 or whatever. Ivory towers and all that. Soapbox beautifully mounted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Madness? Training staff in their job? It's insane like. I know an 'A' level in burger bar management would be a step up for you Nicos. It's always been the dream. Joint Honours with Film Studies? It'd probably be more valuable on the job market than chemistry and maths.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Good idea this, just a shame that it's McDonald's signed up to the pilot scheme given that the qualification will inevitably have to compete with the additional stigma of the 'McJob' label. Think their participation at the outset is probably counter productive. Time to stop being so fucking elitest about qualifications and writing people off just because they're not particularly academic at the arbitrary age of 16 or whatever. Ivory towers and all that. Soapbox beautifully mounted. Happens to be my honest opinion. I do a job which is 95% populated by people who are completely up their own backsides and have the sort of elitest opinions that make me utterly ashamed to be part of the profession. Too many people written off cos they didnt get GCSE's, for society to feel entitled to look down on them for the rest of their lives. If some young 'un wants to graft their bollocks off in McDonald's instead of following their mates and smashing up bus stops then I want it recognised as much as any law degree etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 (edited) Good idea this, just a shame that it's McDonald's signed up to the pilot scheme given that the qualification will inevitably have to compete with the additional stigma of the 'McJob' label. Think their participation at the outset is probably counter productive. Time to stop being so fucking elitest about qualifications and writing people off just because they're not particularly academic at the arbitrary age of 16 or whatever. Ivory towers and all that. Soapbox beautifully mounted. Happens to be my honest opinion. I do a job which is 95% populated by people who are completely up their own backsides and have the sort of elitest opinions that make me utterly ashamed to be part of the profession. Too many people written off cos they didnt get GCSE's, for society to feel entitled to look down on them for the rest of their lives. If some young 'un wants to graft their bollocks off in McDonald's instead of following their mates and smashing up bus stops then I want it recognised as much as any law degree etc. Old labour? I want to agree with you but something smells rotten about this...... Edited January 28, 2008 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Good idea this, just a shame that it's McDonald's signed up to the pilot scheme given that the qualification will inevitably have to compete with the additional stigma of the 'McJob' label. Think their participation at the outset is probably counter productive. Time to stop being so fucking elitest about qualifications and writing people off just because they're not particularly academic at the arbitrary age of 16 or whatever. Ivory towers and all that. Soapbox beautifully mounted. Happens to be my honest opinion. I do a job which is 95% populated by people who are completely up their own backsides and have the sort of elitest opinions that make me utterly ashamed to be part of the profession. Too many people written off cos they didnt get GCSE's, for society to feel entitled to look down on them for the rest of their lives. If some young 'un wants to graft their bollocks off in McDonald's instead of following their mates and smashing up bus stops then I want it recognised as much as any law degree etc. Old labour? I want to agree with you but something smells rotten about this...... Would it be okay if it were BAE, Sage or Rolls Royce doing it? If anything can be done to encourage young kids to start learning - and hopefully progress further - then I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Good idea this, just a shame that it's McDonald's signed up to the pilot scheme given that the qualification will inevitably have to compete with the additional stigma of the 'McJob' label. Think their participation at the outset is probably counter productive. Time to stop being so fucking elitest about qualifications and writing people off just because they're not particularly academic at the arbitrary age of 16 or whatever. Ivory towers and all that. Soapbox beautifully mounted. Happens to be my honest opinion. I do a job which is 95% populated by people who are completely up their own backsides and have the sort of elitest opinions that make me utterly ashamed to be part of the profession. Too many people written off cos they didnt get GCSE's, for society to feel entitled to look down on them for the rest of their lives. If some young 'un wants to graft their bollocks off in McDonald's instead of following their mates and smashing up bus stops then I want it recognised as much as any law degree etc. Old labour? I want to agree with you but something smells rotten about this...... Would it be okay if it were BAE, Sage or Rolls Royce doing it? If anything can be done to encourage young kids to start learning - and hopefully progress further - then I'm all for it. The principle is fine. As Manc says if only it weren't the evil that is McD. McD love this kind of shit cause it makes them more visible...How comitted they are to helping youth is another matter. Not long ago kids were working 12 hour days in there at £2.75 an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Still think it's daft that vocational institutions - polytechnics etc. have been done away with while the government is trying to get even more numbers through university. Meanwhile people with 'trades' in the UK are in short supply and has been part of the reason so many Poles have came here. Something's wrong somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Good idea this, just a shame that it's McDonald's signed up to the pilot scheme given that the qualification will inevitably have to compete with the additional stigma of the 'McJob' label. Think their participation at the outset is probably counter productive. Time to stop being so fucking elitest about qualifications and writing people off just because they're not particularly academic at the arbitrary age of 16 or whatever. Ivory towers and all that. Soapbox beautifully mounted. Happens to be my honest opinion. I do a job which is 95% populated by people who are completely up their own backsides and have the sort of elitest opinions that make me utterly ashamed to be part of the profession. Too many people written off cos they didnt get GCSE's, for society to feel entitled to look down on them for the rest of their lives. If some young 'un wants to graft their bollocks off in McDonald's instead of following their mates and smashing up bus stops then I want it recognised as much as any law degree etc. Old labour? I want to agree with you but something smells rotten about this...... I'm a socialist if thats what you're getting at but I'm not some Old Labour dinosaur. I just happen to think this is a step in the right direction re attitudes towards education and qualifications. The rotten smell was probably just a whiff of the McDonald's apron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31644 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 At the end of the day it's making a mockery of A-Levels (though I'd say there's probably more to this than is contained in the article) along with other rubbish subjects. The government should stop putting so much effort into getting people into university and spend more time encouraging those who are less academically gifted to take up vocational courses and provide as much support for them as they do for those who wish to contine their academic studies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 It's not actually an A Level though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Good idea this, just a shame that it's McDonald's signed up to the pilot scheme given that the qualification will inevitably have to compete with the additional stigma of the 'McJob' label. Think their participation at the outset is probably counter productive. Time to stop being so fucking elitest about qualifications and writing people off just because they're not particularly academic at the arbitrary age of 16 or whatever. Ivory towers and all that. Soapbox beautifully mounted. Happens to be my honest opinion. I do a job which is 95% populated by people who are completely up their own backsides and have the sort of elitest opinions that make me utterly ashamed to be part of the profession. Too many people written off cos they didnt get GCSE's, for society to feel entitled to look down on them for the rest of their lives. If some young 'un wants to graft their bollocks off in McDonald's instead of following their mates and smashing up bus stops then I want it recognised as much as any law degree etc. Old labour? I want to agree with you but something smells rotten about this...... I'm a socialist if thats what you're getting at but I'm not some Old Labour dinosaur. I just happen to think this is a step in the right direction re attitudes towards education and qualifications. The rotten smell was probably just a whiff of the McDonald's apron. Reminds me of that time in Paris after the third bottle of Beaujolais I started telling people I was a Marxist. If they tried this in France sheep would be burnt on major motorways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Still think it's daft that vocational institutions - polytechnics etc. have been done away with while the government is trying to get even more numbers through university. Meanwhile people with 'trades' in the UK are in short supply and has been part of the reason so many Poles have came here. Something's wrong somewhere. Totally agree. I've long given up on the notion that the Govt are even vaguely intersted in the people any longer. Wind power anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 (edited) At the end of the day it's making a mockery of A-Levels Kids will be throwing away their bunsen burners and rushing to McDonalds to get these new exclusive qualifications. Won't somebody think of the children! Edited January 28, 2008 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 At the end of the day it's making a mockery of A-Levels Kids will be throwing away their bunsen burners and rushing to McDonalds to get these new exclusive qualifications. Won't somebody think of the children! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31644 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 At the end of the day it's making a mockery of A-Levels Kids will be throwing away their bunsen burners and rushing to McDonalds to get these new exclusive qualifications. Won't somebody think of the children! Well as has been said it isn't actually an A-Level but the point still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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