Barney 0 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Man Utd opt for minute's silence Manchester United say they intend to stick with their plans to hold a minute's silence to mark the 50th anniversary of the Munich air disaster. The club had been asked by Manchester City's supporters' club to have a minute's applause before their home Premier League game on 10 February. It feared that the occasion could be marred by disrespectful visiting fans. But United spokesman Phil Townsend said they would not change their plans, telling the BBC: "It's a solemn event." He added: "We don't think applause is the best way to commemorate the death of 23 people." It is their decision because it is their home game and, clearly, the tragedy was felt more at Manchester United than anywhere else Paul Tyrrell Manchester City spokesman Eight United stars and former City goalkeeper Frank Swift were among those who lost their lives as a result of the crash, which happened on 6 February, 1958. Their plane was attempting to take off in poor weather conditions after stopping to re-fuel following the club's European Cup game against Red Star Belgrade. Manchester City spokesman Paul Tyrrell told BBC Sport: "We have already made representations to Manchester United about the commemorations and the two clubs have been working together for a number of months. "We are wearing a special kit, decorating the away concourse area, and members of Frank Swift's family are attending the game. "We also spoke to United and expressed our concerns about a minute's silence. "United took those concerns away and came back and said they wished to continue with the idea of a minute's silence. "We respect their decision and, ultimately, it is their decision because it is their home game and, clearly, the tragedy was felt more at Manchester United than anywhere else. "However, the whole of Manchester shared the grief." Both United and City have already announced they will wear special kits for the Manchester derby. United will wear a replica of their 1958 kit, devoid of the players' names or shirt numbers, while City's will incorporate a black ribbon with their sponsor's branding removed. City's supporters' club spokesman Kevin Parker explained the reasoning behind its decision to write to United requesting a minute's applause, saying it would only take one "buffoon" or "idiot" to ruin the special occasion. If Manchester United played Liverpool on the anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster, I'm sure that they wouldn't hold a minute's silence Kevin Parker, Manchester City supporters club spokesman "Being a Manchester City fan and living in the city of Manchester all my life, I know the rivalry between these two football clubs," he told BBC Radio 5 Live. "Unfortunately, there is also, in some small areas, a great degree of hatred. "We are concerned as an organisation that it will only take one of those idiots to decide to shout something stupid and then the whole situation has been spoilt forever. "We are calling for applause just in case. We can't be wrong for doing that, surely. "We want this to be for the good of football, the good of Manchester, for the good of Manchester City." He added: "If Manchester United played Liverpool on the anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster, I'm sure that they wouldn't hold a minute's silence. "I'm sure they would now consider holding a minute's applause instead. It's the reality of the situation. We can't be wrong for asking Manchester United to consider this." City have also written to the 3,000 of their fans who have tickets for the derby to ask them to show respect. Anyone expecting City fans to do the airplane impression where they stick their arms out by their sides and make airplane noises? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Hopefully it will be respected but it only takes one wanker to show up the entire club. Also might have been an idea for Man U to take the sponsors logo off the temporary memorial they've stuck up on OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Yawn..................... It happened 50 years ago FFS - time to let it go........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Yawn..................... It happened 50 years ago FFS - time to let it go........................ They need to keep going on about it in case they start losing sympathy. I may be a cynic but I think it is all just a big PR stunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Should have agreed the compromise (not even sure that's the right way of phrasing it) of a minute's applause imo. Hopefully it will pass off without incident anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Should have agreed the compromise (not even sure that's the right way of phrasing it) of a minute's applause imo. Hopefully it will pass off without incident anyway. I wouldn't put money on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Should have agreed the compromise (not even sure that's the right way of phrasing it) of a minute's applause imo. Hopefully it will pass off without incident anyway. I wouldn't put money on that. I doubt if you'd get odds on my hoping it goes well like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Should have agreed the compromise (not even sure that's the right way of phrasing it) of a minute's applause imo. Hopefully it will pass off without incident anyway. I wouldn't put money on that. I doubt if you'd get odds on my hoping it goes well like Some dude on bet 365 is offering burlington Bertie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4379 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 While respecting the dead I'd point out that they have milked it since it happened - a lot of their "fans" both here and abroad are the result of sympathy. Also if it is ruined by a few wankers, before they get all sanctimonious they should remember their "H" taunts at scousers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 They are as bad a each other but they like to hop on their high horse every time either event comes round. Dont get me wrong though il allways be quiet. What was it, Southampton home? When i royal died and the Southampton fans started singing? I was fairly young and though i found it a bit funny i kep my mouth shut, think we won 3-1 that day too. Good free kick from someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 They are as bad a each other but they like to hop on their high horse every time either event comes round. Dont get me wrong though il allways be quiet. What was it, Southampton home? When i royal died and the Southampton fans started singing? I was fairly young and though i found it a bit funny i kep my mouth shut, think we won 3-1 that day too. Good free kick from someone Princess Margaret? A canny few people were muttering like. Princess fucking Margaret? That Scouser who had his head chopped off too. Ridiculous given 1) the amount of servicemen and women who don't get that treatment and 2) He'd never been living in the UK for years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 They are as bad a each other but they like to hop on their high horse every time either event comes round. Dont get me wrong though il allways be quiet. What was it, Southampton home? When i royal died and the Southampton fans started singing? I was fairly young and though i found it a bit funny i kep my mouth shut, think we won 3-1 that day too. Good free kick from someone Princess Margaret? A canny few people were muttering like. Princess fucking Margaret? That Scouser who had his head chopped off too. Ridiculous given 1) the amount of servicemen and women who don't get that treatment and 2) He'd never been living in the UK for years anyway. Aye i thought that was the one like. I didn't know who she was tbh but i was still quiet in case it was someone important (i was probably13/14) Scousers are the best fucking moaners on the planet, it could be a scouser who'd dropped his kit-kat and they would never shut up about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Fair enough all should respect the silence, but I almost think more disrespect is being done with the PR side of this. I wonder if they'll have a 100 years anniversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 89 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 They are as bad a each other but they like to hop on their high horse every time either event comes round. Dont get me wrong though il allways be quiet. What was it, Southampton home? When i royal died and the Southampton fans started singing? I was fairly young and though i found it a bit funny i kep my mouth shut, think we won 3-1 that day too. Good free kick from someone Princess Margaret? A canny few people were muttering like. Princess fucking Margaret? That Scouser who had his head chopped off too. Ridiculous given 1) the amount of servicemen and women who don't get that treatment and 2) He'd never been living in the UK for years anyway. Aye i thought that was the one like. I didn't know who she was tbh but i was still quiet in case it was someone important (i was probably13/14) Scousers are the best fucking moaners on the planet, it could be a scouser who'd dropped his kit-kat and they would never shut up about it lol comedy gerld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 When Princess Margaret passed away, the sadness was for the repurcussions for the alcohol industry (especially Gordons gin). Apparently when she was cremated, the flames were burning for a fortnight. So I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 Fair enough all should respect the silence, but I almost think more disrespect is being done with the PR side of this. I wonder if they'll have a 100 years anniversary. That seems to be the City fans take on things. The majority want silence and want it done right. They seem to know that there mill be a minority doing the airplane gesture and acting the arse in general, but are saying that ManU fans should shut the f*ck up with their Hillsborough and Marc Vivien Foe songs. Again, a minority. Also, I agree with all the scouser bashing re: kit-kat's etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 When Princess Margaret passed away, the sadness was for the repurcussions for the alcohol industry (especially Gordons gin). Apparently when she was cremated, the flames were burning for a fortnight. So I heard. Tanqueray Gin, you Philistine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 When Princess Margaret passed away, the sadness was for the repurcussions for the alcohol industry (especially Gordons gin). Apparently when she was cremated, the flames were burning for a fortnight. So I heard. Tanqueray Gin, you Philistine. Neva hord of the stuff, Alex I bow to your greater knowledge of the alcohol habits of the royal family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 (edited) When Princess Margaret passed away, the sadness was for the repurcussions for the alcohol industry (especially Gordons gin). Apparently when she was cremated, the flames were burning for a fortnight. So I heard. Tanqueray Gin, you Philistine. Neva hord of the stuff, Alex I bow to your greater knowledge of the alcohol habits of the royal family Made by Gordon's, only posher. Definitely what it got its 'By Royal Appointment' status for, i.e. Margaret getting stuck into before taking a (very) hot bath. Edited January 23, 2008 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 When Princess Margaret passed away, the sadness was for the repurcussions for the alcohol industry (especially Gordons gin). Apparently when she was cremated, the flames were burning for a fortnight. So I heard. Tanqueray Gin, you Philistine. Neva hord of the stuff, Alex I bow to your greater knowledge of the alcohol habits of the royal family Made by Gordon's, only posher. Definitely what it got its 'By Royal Appointment' status for, i.e. Margaret getting stuck into before taking a (very) hot bath. Ouch!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 every time you go to a game these days it's liek going to the Co_op Funeral Directors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCUM 1 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Yawn..................... It happened 50 years ago FFS - time to let it go........................ Rob W, No, it's certainly not time to 'let it go' as you put it. Although I was only a small bairn at the time of the crash, as the one or two on here who know me personally will testify, Munich had a dramatic impact on my family and countless others. The families of those who perished that day have had put with 50 years of shit from the club which was (in large part) made by Sir Matt and those who lost their lives in 1958 and are still putting up with shit today like the obscene sight of sponsors logo's on the new memorial. I know it's difficult for the young 'uns to understand but players in those days, although 'stars', were ordinary blokes who socialised with the working men, travelled on the same bus etc. Their only difference was their football ability. The disaster had a deep impact on those who were around at the time. There will become a time to 'let it go' as you put it but that won't be whilst survivors and families of those who died are still around. Feb 6th is a time for a lot of people to remember those people and pay their respects. Leave them be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Anyone got a picture of the new memorial like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footsoldier 0 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Pity Bobby Charlton hadn't gone down with the plane instead of Duncan Edwards. I hate that whinging twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I think Bobby Charlton said before that Edwards was the only player who ever made him feel inferior, that's some statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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