Once the dust has settled

[Chaser 1255]

As the initial shock of KK coming back begins to fade, I am beginning to think about what his appointment means to the club. Being a Keegan Bandwagoner first time around (back in 93/94 when I was just about old enough to take an interest), I know what Keegan means to Newcastle, what he means to me as a manager of the club and what he brings to the table.

 

Since his departure, he has had rather mixed fortunes and one could suggest that he was found out when he left.

 

My opinion of the man and his latest appointment is that this is a manager who can restore the faith & pride into the fans, hopefully produce the goods on the pitch however, if I am honest, I'm definitely not expecting anything more than possibly top 5 or 6. With KK at the helm, I doubt that we will see top 4 even with MA backing. This for me, is an appointment to feel good about supporting Newcastle and to encourage us all to bond with the club once again to bring back those Halcyon days.

 

Come on Kev, prove me wrong and get us back up there!

 

Always a legend

[Andrew 4856]

As the initial shock of KK coming back begins to fade, I am beginning to think about what his appointment means to the club. Being a Keegan Bandwagoner first time around (back in 93/94 when I was just about old enough to take an interest), I know what Keegan means to Newcastle, what he means to me as a manager of the club and what he brings to the table.

 

Since his departure, he has had rather mixed fortunes and one could suggest that he was found out when he left.

 

My opinion of the man and his latest appointment is that this is a manager who can restore the faith & pride into the fans, hopefully produce the goods on the pitch however, if I am honest, I'm definitely not expecting anything more than possibly top 5 or 6. With KK at the helm, I doubt that we will see top 4 even with MA backing. This for me, is an appointment to feel good about supporting Newcastle and to encourage us all to bond with the club once again to bring back those Halcyon days.

 

Come on Kev, prove me wrong and get us back up there!

 

Always a legend

 

I feel the same and I've got to say it's a move of absolute genius, keegan will get the fans pumped up and that will translate to the team, he's not got long to get new players in this month so he's working pretty much with what he already has so the fans backing will be even more important

[Chaser 1255]

You know, looking at it and at the posts from the pre-season, much of this board was fairly satisfied if not pleased with the signings that were made, arguing that we had replaced bad for good and generally bought a team which could push top 6.

 

Now much of the problem with this team has been morale, and empathy amongst the silenced home crowd. Now that has come back instantly with KK's arrival, maybe the team arent as bad as they have been playing??

 

I am punch drunk on optimism

[Big TRon 0]

The Zog and Duff had probably their best games of the season so far. There's enough quality in this squad for Keegan to work his magic in the short term. After that we'll see. What was the alternative? BSA's 5 year plan to become Bolton?

[Noelie 103]

........................................ maybe the team arent as bad as they have been playing??

 

I don't think they are. 'As bad as they have been playing' is something I blame Allardyce for. His continuous playing of people out of position, questionable starting line-ups, questionable substitutions, and questionable reasons why he wasn't giving certain players more playing time, did not do anything to motivate the team to perform as well as I believe they were capable of.

[RlCO 0]

How does the initial shock start going away after 3 hours? I'm still on another planet here like.

[Tom 14013]

How does the initial shock start going away after 3 hours? I'm still on another planet here like.

 

+1

[RlCO 0]

If I ate some suger right now I might just reach orbit.

[Row Z 0]

People have to realise that it's a different game now. It's not like before when it was Newcastle and Man Utd at the top battling it out for the league... Mourinho and Wenger put together would struggle to win the league with Newcastle now because Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea are lightyears ahead and it will take years if not decades to close that gap.

 

This appointment was all about restoring pride and getting a smile back on the fans faces and that has already been achieved.

[Tribal 0]

People have to realise that it's a different game now. It's not like before when it was Newcastle and Man Utd at the top battling it out for the league... Mourinho and Wenger put together would struggle to win the league with Newcastle now because Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea are lightyears ahead and it will take years if not decades to close that gap.

 

This appointment was all about restoring pride and getting a smile back on the fans faces and that has already been achieved.

 

We won't break into the top four. We're leagues apart from the top four at the moment, but if Keegan can take us one or two steps closer to breaking into it then I'm all for it.

[Park Life 71]

As the initial shock of KK coming back begins to fade, I am beginning to think about what his appointment means to the club. Being a Keegan Bandwagoner first time around (back in 93/94 when I was just about old enough to take an interest), I know what Keegan means to Newcastle, what he means to me as a manager of the club and what he brings to the table.

 

Since his departure, he has had rather mixed fortunes and one could suggest that he was found out when he left.

 

My opinion of the man and his latest appointment is that this is a manager who can restore the faith & pride into the fans, hopefully produce the goods on the pitch however, if I am honest, I'm definitely not expecting anything more than possibly top 5 or 6. With KK at the helm, I doubt that we will see top 4 even with MA backing. This for me, is an appointment to feel good about supporting Newcastle and to encourage us all to bond with the club once again to bring back those Halcyon days.

 

Come on Kev, prove me wrong and get us back up there!

 

Always a legend

 

This has nowt to do with reality that's why it is so exciting.

[Tooj 17]

And the smoke is cleared, and the fans are done chanting your name.

[Asprilla 96]

As the initial shock of KK coming back begins to fade, I am beginning to think about what his appointment means to the club. Being a Keegan Bandwagoner first time around (back in 93/94 when I was just about old enough to take an interest), I know what Keegan means to Newcastle, what he means to me as a manager of the club and what he brings to the table.

 

Since his departure, he has had rather mixed fortunes and one could suggest that he was found out when he left.

 

My opinion of the man and his latest appointment is that this is a manager who can restore the faith & pride into the fans, hopefully produce the goods on the pitch however, if I am honest, I'm definitely not expecting anything more than possibly top 5 or 6. With KK at the helm, I doubt that we will see top 4 even with MA backing. This for me, is an appointment to feel good about supporting Newcastle and to encourage us all to bond with the club once again to bring back those Halcyon days.

 

Come on Kev, prove me wrong and get us back up there!

 

Always a legend

 

This has nowt to do with reality that's why it is so exciting.

Exactly.

 

You can think too much sometimes.

 

Allardyce is proof that all the dieticians, philosophy and synchronised swimming are no good if you don't score.

 

Keegan will get us scoring again and we can work on the finer points afterwards.

 

 

Saying that, it still feels a bit like I've woken up after shagging the town slapper and thinking "what have I done! It all seemed like such a good idea last night"

[Park Life 71]

As the initial shock of KK coming back begins to fade, I am beginning to think about what his appointment means to the club. Being a Keegan Bandwagoner first time around (back in 93/94 when I was just about old enough to take an interest), I know what Keegan means to Newcastle, what he means to me as a manager of the club and what he brings to the table.

 

Since his departure, he has had rather mixed fortunes and one could suggest that he was found out when he left.

 

My opinion of the man and his latest appointment is that this is a manager who can restore the faith & pride into the fans, hopefully produce the goods on the pitch however, if I am honest, I'm definitely not expecting anything more than possibly top 5 or 6. With KK at the helm, I doubt that we will see top 4 even with MA backing. This for me, is an appointment to feel good about supporting Newcastle and to encourage us all to bond with the club once again to bring back those Halcyon days.

 

Come on Kev, prove me wrong and get us back up there!

 

Always a legend

 

This has nowt to do with reality that's why it is so exciting.

Exactly.

 

You can think too much sometimes.

 

Allardyce is proof that all the dieticians, philosophy and synchronised swimming are no good if you don't score.

 

Keegan will get us scoring again and we can work on the finer points afterwards.

 

 

Saying that, it still feels a bit like I've woken up after shagging the town slapper and thinking "what have I done! It all seemed like such a good idea last night"

 

 

It is clear now how 'over-functional' SA was...And how completely alien his ideas were to us. It is also a shame he couldn't modify or transcend his more ridiculous dogmas.

 

 

Keegan is a step into the old world of football. We will now have the fun of watching magic v science, instinct v drills, potions v checklists.

 

 

Dreams win prizes.

[Meenzer 15716]

Saying that, it still feels a bit like I've woken up after shagging the town slapper and thinking "what have I done! It all seemed like such a good idea last night"

 

Spot on with your post (and everyone else's) though.

[Craig 6700]

Whether you consider the Keegan appointment to be the right one or the wrong one, there was an article the other day which pretty much nailed on the situation.

 

Probably more than any club in the UK, the need for enthusiasm to be forthcoming between the players and the fans is absolutely massive. If the players aren't performing, the crowd aren't inspired, if the crowd don't perform, the players are uninspired.

 

With that in mind, I think Mort & Ashley have pulled off a master-stroke. They've made an appointment that will instantly strike a chord with the fans and get them vocal and full of support for the same squad of players who've been roundly criticised for large parts of the season. Think of how it'll be on Saturday, 52,000 people screaming Keegan's name (yes there will be some who won't, but the majority will) and the effect that will have on the team will hopefully show through.

 

So the rest of the country are laughing at us.... who gives a fuck? Amazing that all they remember is how he failed, not how within 4 years he took a side that was on the brink of Division 3 to Premiership title favourites. They're desperate for him to fail - I think he'll bring silverware.

[Park Life 71]

Whether you consider the Keegan appointment to be the right one or the wrong one, there was an article the other day which pretty much nailed on the situation.

 

Probably more than any club in the UK, the need for enthusiasm to be forthcoming between the players and the fans is absolutely massive. If the players aren't performing, the crowd aren't inspired, if the crowd don't perform, the players are uninspired.

 

With that in mind, I think Mort & Ashley have pulled off a master-stroke. They've made an appointment that will instantly strike a chord with the fans and get them vocal and full of support for the same squad of players who've been roundly criticised for large parts of the season. Think of how it'll be on Saturday, 52,000 people screaming Keegan's name (yes there will be some who won't, but the majority will) and the effect that will have on the team will hopefully show through.

 

So the rest of the country are laughing at us.... who gives a fuck? Amazing that all they remember is how he failed, not how within 4 years he took a side that was on the brink of Division 3 to Premiership title favourites. They're desperate for him to fail - I think he'll bring silverware.

 

I think this is bigger than that. We are dealing now in the realms of myth, even what football is about.

[Isegrim 9896]

Actually, after trying to think about it less emotionally it still seems a good idea to me. What were the alternatives? Besides of appointing someone like Mourinho, who was out of reach, every other manager would not have been less of a risk. Nobody could have said that the likes of Deschamps, Houllier etc. would have worked either. Well, at least I don't think they would have. So why not giving someone a go where you know to a large extent what you get.

 

I don't agree with comments like that football has developed further. It's not as if Keegan last managed a club before WWII. And looking back at his time you can say that Keegan in terms of his football ideas and standard was ahead of his time. Now a lot will depend on the people Keegan will chose to work with him. But I am optimistic about it.

[Jimbo 175]

Although it sounds horribly negative, I think Newcastle United needs to get Kevin Keegan out of its system, when Keegan left 11 years ago it felt like a job half done, unfinished business, and any subsiquent manager always had Keegan's shaddow looming over them, now we have the chance to get the job finished, one way or another, but at least we might be able to draw a line under Kevin Keegan and Newcastle United once and for all, lets hope this time there's a happy ending.

[Park Life 71]

Actually, after trying to think about it less emotionally it still seems a good idea to me. What were the alternatives? Besides of appointing someone like Mourinho, who was out of reach, every other manager would not have been less of a risk. Nobody could have said that the likes of Deschamps, Houllier etc. would have worked either. Well, at least I don't think they would have. So why not giving someone a go where you know to a large extent what you get.

 

I don't agree with comments like that football has developed further. It's not as if Keegan last managed a club before WWII. And looking back at his time you can say that Keegan in terms of his football ideas and standard was ahead of his time. Now a lot will depend on the people Keegan will chose to work with him. But I am optimistic about it.

 

Football has become everything KK hates. That will be his drive and his fuel. I too am optimistic...

[Park Life 71]

Although it sounds horribly negative, I think Newcastle United need to get Kevin Keegan out of its system, when Keegan left 11 years ago it felt like a job half done, unfinished business, and any subsiquent manager always had Keegan's shaddow looming over them, now we have the chance to get the job finished, one way or another, but at least we might be able to draw a line under Kevin Keegan and Newcastle United once and for all, lets hope this time there's a happy ending.

 

 

You've left Ashley out of the equation.

 

It is one thing when we scheme and dream in the pub over a few pints, it is a whole other thing when a billionaire gets involved in the dream game.

 

 

If the money is forthcoming I can see little stopping us playing good football and enagaging the top 4.

 

I don't even think it will take that long.

[spongebob toonpants 4131]

Although it sounds horribly negative, I think Newcastle United need to get Kevin Keegan out of its system, when Keegan left 11 years ago it felt like a job half done, unfinished business, and any subsiquent manager always had Keegan's shaddow looming over them, now we have the chance to get the job finished, one way or another, but at least we might be able to draw a line under Kevin Keegan and Newcastle United once and for all, lets hope this time there's a happy ending.

 

 

You've left Ashley out of the equation.

 

It is one thing when we scheme and dream in the pub over a few pints, it is a whole other thing when a billionaire gets involved in the dream game.

 

 

If the money is forthcoming I can see little stopping us playing good football and enagaging the top 4.

 

I don't even think it will take that long.

 

 

Keegan will only have come back if he was going to be bankrolled, there would be no point otherwise. Hold on to your hats its going to be a wild ride

[Craig 6700]

The comments about "football has changed so much in 11 years" are beginning to piss me off tbh.

 

He left Newcastle 11 years ago but have the media forgotten that he did a couple of years at Fulham, 18 months as England boss and however long it was at Citeh??

 

He's actually been out of the game less than 3 years (34 months) and ok, he might not have been to a live football match in that time, but I seem to recall he didn't after retiring as a player and that was 8 years!!

[Park Life 71]

He's been away 4052 days = 11.

 

A full on magic number.

[Big TRon 0]

Although it sounds horribly negative, I think Newcastle United need to get Kevin Keegan out of its system, when Keegan left 11 years ago it felt like a job half done, unfinished business, and any subsiquent manager always had Keegan's shaddow looming over them, now we have the chance to get the job finished, one way or another, but at least we might be able to draw a line under Kevin Keegan and Newcastle United once and for all, lets hope this time there's a happy ending.

 

 

You've left Ashley out of the equation.

 

It is one thing when we scheme and dream in the pub over a few pints, it is a whole other thing when a billionaire gets involved in the dream game.

 

 

If the money is forthcoming I can see little stopping us playing good football and enagaging the top 4.

 

I don't even think it will take that long.

 

I hope the £50m being talked about is a starting point. To compete with the big boys Keegan will need at least that. If he gets it, you can bet some of those big boys will start looking over their shoulder.