Anyone else not worried?

[Snake 0]

and thinks the club's in good hands?

[@yourservice 67]

They'll learn by their mistakes I'm sure

[RlCO 0]

Positively karmic.

[Big TRon 0]

You can count me in. Ashley and Mort have made mistakes and the rest of the country is having a good time at our expense but we just have to get on with it and put it right. I am very confident in the guys at the top.

[RlCO 0]

I'd be dissappointed if the NOTW article turns out to be fabricated, as that's the only thing that's cheered me up recently.

[Dr Gloom 22542]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

so far he hasn't really spent the millions we all thought a billionaire owner would and he's got the first big decision he's had to make wrong imo. the timing of the sacking was odd, the fact that he didn't have someone lined up was poor and being publicly snubbed by redknapp was just embarrasing.

 

he needs to get a good manager in, back him and give him time. and he could do with spending more time in the posh seats and less with his toon top in the away end if you ask me. if he is prepared to do all of that then i'd say we are in good hands simply because of how much the man is worth but i expected a more professional approach tbh

[RlCO 0]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

so far he hasn't really spent the millions we all thought a billionaire owner would and he's got the first big decision he's had to make wrong imo. the timing of the sacking was odd, the fact that he didn't have someone lined up was poor and being publicly snubbed by redknapp was just embarrasing.

 

he needs to get a good manager in, back him and give him time. and he could do with spending more time in the posh seats and less with his toon top in the away end if you ask me. if he is prepared to do all of that then i'd say we are in good hands simply because of how much the man is worth but i expected a more professional approach tbh

 

I only think he hasn't spent millions because Allardyce hasn't asked for it. I think he was a naturally frugal manager. As he says he's certainly spent massively elsewhere on the slub. I do wonder if he would have went for Anelka, and if we would have laid out for him.

[Guest alex]

Anelka wouldn't have come once Chelsea were interested anyway.

[Happy Face 29]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

so far he hasn't really spent the millions we all thought a billionaire owner would and he's got the first big decision he's had to make wrong imo. the timing of the sacking was odd, the fact that he didn't have someone lined up was poor and being publicly snubbed by redknapp was just embarrasing.

 

he needs to get a good manager in, back him and give him time. and he could do with spending more time in the posh seats and less with his toon top in the away end if you ask me. if he is prepared to do all of that then i'd say we are in good hands simply because of how much the man is worth but i expected a more professional approach tbh

 

I only think he hasn't spent millions because Allardyce hasn't asked for it. I think he was a naturally frugal manager. As he says he's certainly spent massively elsewhere on the slub. I do wonder if he would have went for Anelka, and if we would have laid out for him.

 

I thought he'd wanted to spend bigger in the summer but been refused.

 

Which I could understand actually. Sticking with Allardyce was like pulling at 2AM. You'll take her home and that, see how it goes, but you're not going to go bare back. The long term cost could be through the roof.

[Tooj 17]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

so far he hasn't really spent the millions we all thought a billionaire owner would and he's got the first big decision he's had to make wrong imo. the timing of the sacking was odd, the fact that he didn't have someone lined up was poor and being publicly snubbed by redknapp was just embarrasing.

 

he needs to get a good manager in, back him and give him time. and he could do with spending more time in the posh seats and less with his toon top in the away end if you ask me. if he is prepared to do all of that then i'd say we are in good hands simply because of how much the man is worth but i expected a more professional approach tbh

 

I only think he hasn't spent millions because Allardyce hasn't asked for it. I think he was a naturally frugal manager. As he says he's certainly spent massively elsewhere on the slub. I do wonder if he would have went for Anelka, and if we would have laid out for him.

 

I thought he'd wanted to spend bigger in the summer but been refused.

 

Which I could understand actually. Sticking with Allardyce was like pulling at 2AM. You'll take her home and that, see how it goes, but you're not going to go bare back. The long term cost could be through the roof.

Ian Holloway tastic.

[manc-mag 1]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

so far he hasn't really spent the millions we all thought a billionaire owner would and he's got the first big decision he's had to make wrong imo. the timing of the sacking was odd, the fact that he didn't have someone lined up was poor and being publicly snubbed by redknapp was just embarrasing.

 

he needs to get a good manager in, back him and give him time. and he could do with spending more time in the posh seats and less with his toon top in the away end if you ask me. if he is prepared to do all of that then i'd say we are in good hands simply because of how much the man is worth but i expected a more professional approach tbh

 

I was mortified (fnarr) the first time I saw that and I agree 100% with Dan. Whether he wants to be a fan or not, he has to realise he cannot be a fan in that sense. It would be prejudicial to everyone's interests as we need his business head on and nowt else.

 

Hopefully that period will come to an end now as he's going to be forced to knuckle down on the managerial appointment. From that point on, everything at the club will have his hallmark (Jesus can't avoid the Chairman references we've had so many) and he'll be accountable for everything that happens, success or failure. Hopefully he's already seen that and has remembered that his business successes are associated with him wearing a suit.

[Happy Face 29]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

so far he hasn't really spent the millions we all thought a billionaire owner would and he's got the first big decision he's had to make wrong imo. the timing of the sacking was odd, the fact that he didn't have someone lined up was poor and being publicly snubbed by redknapp was just embarrasing.

 

he needs to get a good manager in, back him and give him time. and he could do with spending more time in the posh seats and less with his toon top in the away end if you ask me. if he is prepared to do all of that then i'd say we are in good hands simply because of how much the man is worth but i expected a more professional approach tbh

 

I was mortified (fnarr) the first time I saw that and I agree 100% with Dan. Whether he wants to be a fan or not, he has to realise he cannot be a fan in that sense. It would be prejudicial to everyone's interests as we need his business head on and nowt else.

 

Hopefully that period will come to an end now as he's going to be forced to knuckle down on the managerial appointment. From that point on, everything at the club will have his hallmark (Jesus can't avoid the Chairman references we've had so many) and he'll be accountable for everything that happens, success or failure. Hopefully he's already seen that and has remembered that his business successes are associated with him wearing a suit.

 

He's standing with the fans at the odd away game because when he felt forced to at the Sunderland game he enjoyed it, and he wants to keep enjoying it.

 

I see nothing wrong with it.

[RlCO 0]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

so far he hasn't really spent the millions we all thought a billionaire owner would and he's got the first big decision he's had to make wrong imo. the timing of the sacking was odd, the fact that he didn't have someone lined up was poor and being publicly snubbed by redknapp was just embarrasing.

 

he needs to get a good manager in, back him and give him time. and he could do with spending more time in the posh seats and less with his toon top in the away end if you ask me. if he is prepared to do all of that then i'd say we are in good hands simply because of how much the man is worth but i expected a more professional approach tbh

 

I only think he hasn't spent millions because Allardyce hasn't asked for it. I think he was a naturally frugal manager. As he says he's certainly spent massively elsewhere on the slub. I do wonder if he would have went for Anelka, and if we would have laid out for him.

 

I thought he'd wanted to spend bigger in the summer but been refused.

 

Which I could understand actually. Sticking with Allardyce was like pulling at 2AM. You'll take her home and that, see how it goes, but you're not going to go bare back. The long term cost could be through the roof.

 

I don't think he actually said that, he just complained they were being too slow in progressing his targets, and then later moaned that those he did end up with were his second choices.

[Guest alex]

He won't do it if he starts getting stick off the fans. Which will probably be at the next away match.

[manc-mag 1]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

so far he hasn't really spent the millions we all thought a billionaire owner would and he's got the first big decision he's had to make wrong imo. the timing of the sacking was odd, the fact that he didn't have someone lined up was poor and being publicly snubbed by redknapp was just embarrasing.

 

he needs to get a good manager in, back him and give him time. and he could do with spending more time in the posh seats and less with his toon top in the away end if you ask me. if he is prepared to do all of that then i'd say we are in good hands simply because of how much the man is worth but i expected a more professional approach tbh

 

I was mortified (fnarr) the first time I saw that and I agree 100% with Dan. Whether he wants to be a fan or not, he has to realise he cannot be a fan in that sense. It would be prejudicial to everyone's interests as we need his business head on and nowt else.

 

Hopefully that period will come to an end now as he's going to be forced to knuckle down on the managerial appointment. From that point on, everything at the club will have his hallmark (Jesus can't avoid the Chairman references we've had so many) and he'll be accountable for everything that happens, success or failure. Hopefully he's already seen that and has remembered that his business successes are associated with him wearing a suit.

 

He's standing with the fans at the odd away game because when he felt forced to at the Sunderland game he enjoyed it, and he wants to keep enjoying it.

 

I see nothing wrong with it.

 

I understand the history behind it but I disagree with your conclusion. He needs to be distanced from that type of carry on and we need his cool business savvy. I just think it can only distract in the long run.

[manc-mag 1]

He won't do it if he starts getting stick off the fans. Which will probably be at the next away match.

 

Aye, well thats true enough like.

[RlCO 0]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

so far he hasn't really spent the millions we all thought a billionaire owner would and he's got the first big decision he's had to make wrong imo. the timing of the sacking was odd, the fact that he didn't have someone lined up was poor and being publicly snubbed by redknapp was just embarrasing.

 

he needs to get a good manager in, back him and give him time. and he could do with spending more time in the posh seats and less with his toon top in the away end if you ask me. if he is prepared to do all of that then i'd say we are in good hands simply because of how much the man is worth but i expected a more professional approach tbh

 

I was mortified (fnarr) the first time I saw that and I agree 100% with Dan. Whether he wants to be a fan or not, he has to realise he cannot be a fan in that sense. It would be prejudicial to everyone's interests as we need his business head on and nowt else.

 

Hopefully that period will come to an end now as he's going to be forced to knuckle down on the managerial appointment. From that point on, everything at the club will have his hallmark (Jesus can't avoid the Chairman references we've had so many) and he'll be accountable for everything that happens, success or failure. Hopefully he's already seen that and has remembered that his business successes are associated with him wearing a suit.

 

He's standing with the fans at the odd away game because when he felt forced to at the Sunderland game he enjoyed it, and he wants to keep enjoying it.

 

I see nothing wrong with it.

 

I understand the history behind it but I disagree with your conclusion. He needs to be distanced from that type of carry on and we need his cool business savvy. I just think it can only distract in the long run.

 

You're kind of taking away from him the reason why he bought the club. We aren't just another company for him to make a profit from, he wants to be a fan foremost, and I sense not for the same reasons that Fat Fred kept proclaiming his fan status. If you take away the fun, why would he want the hassle?

[Guest alex]

I'd put Shepherd more in the 'genuine fan' category than Ashley. I agree it's probably a 'plaything' rather than a business though from his point of view.

[manc-mag 1]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

so far he hasn't really spent the millions we all thought a billionaire owner would and he's got the first big decision he's had to make wrong imo. the timing of the sacking was odd, the fact that he didn't have someone lined up was poor and being publicly snubbed by redknapp was just embarrasing.

 

he needs to get a good manager in, back him and give him time. and he could do with spending more time in the posh seats and less with his toon top in the away end if you ask me. if he is prepared to do all of that then i'd say we are in good hands simply because of how much the man is worth but i expected a more professional approach tbh

 

I was mortified (fnarr) the first time I saw that and I agree 100% with Dan. Whether he wants to be a fan or not, he has to realise he cannot be a fan in that sense. It would be prejudicial to everyone's interests as we need his business head on and nowt else.

 

Hopefully that period will come to an end now as he's going to be forced to knuckle down on the managerial appointment. From that point on, everything at the club will have his hallmark (Jesus can't avoid the Chairman references we've had so many) and he'll be accountable for everything that happens, success or failure. Hopefully he's already seen that and has remembered that his business successes are associated with him wearing a suit.

 

He's standing with the fans at the odd away game because when he felt forced to at the Sunderland game he enjoyed it, and he wants to keep enjoying it.

 

I see nothing wrong with it.

 

I understand the history behind it but I disagree with your conclusion. He needs to be distanced from that type of carry on and we need his cool business savvy. I just think it can only distract in the long run.

 

You're kind of taking away from him the reason why he bought the club. We aren't just another company for him to make a profit from, he wants to be a fan foremost, and I sense not for the same reasons that Fat Fred kept proclaiming his fan status. If you take away the fun, why would he want the hassle?

 

That's all well and good but really lets be honest if he wanted to be a fan he could just be a fan. Theres no need to buy a club (including it's mountainous debts) to do that, and of course once you've bought a club then you have to run the club, which again can't be much fun unless youre up for that sort of thing. All that to one side though, surely he can see that the only real way that following a team genuinely involves some fun is if it involves some degree of success. Whether he 'wants to be a fan' or not he's not so thick that he can't foresee it's going to involve a lot more aggro than fun if he doesnt bring success on the pitch, so I'd hope he'd realise that that has to be his only remit.

 

If he brings success then he can stage dive into the Gallowgate from a helicopter for all I care and I'm sure he'd have the time of his life.

 

He'll have a lot more fun if/when he's responsible for making everyone else's lives fun and for me the route to doing that is for him to put his suit on.

[RlCO 0]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

so far he hasn't really spent the millions we all thought a billionaire owner would and he's got the first big decision he's had to make wrong imo. the timing of the sacking was odd, the fact that he didn't have someone lined up was poor and being publicly snubbed by redknapp was just embarrasing.

 

he needs to get a good manager in, back him and give him time. and he could do with spending more time in the posh seats and less with his toon top in the away end if you ask me. if he is prepared to do all of that then i'd say we are in good hands simply because of how much the man is worth but i expected a more professional approach tbh

 

I was mortified (fnarr) the first time I saw that and I agree 100% with Dan. Whether he wants to be a fan or not, he has to realise he cannot be a fan in that sense. It would be prejudicial to everyone's interests as we need his business head on and nowt else.

 

Hopefully that period will come to an end now as he's going to be forced to knuckle down on the managerial appointment. From that point on, everything at the club will have his hallmark (Jesus can't avoid the Chairman references we've had so many) and he'll be accountable for everything that happens, success or failure. Hopefully he's already seen that and has remembered that his business successes are associated with him wearing a suit.

 

He's standing with the fans at the odd away game because when he felt forced to at the Sunderland game he enjoyed it, and he wants to keep enjoying it.

 

I see nothing wrong with it.

 

I understand the history behind it but I disagree with your conclusion. He needs to be distanced from that type of carry on and we need his cool business savvy. I just think it can only distract in the long run.

 

You're kind of taking away from him the reason why he bought the club. We aren't just another company for him to make a profit from, he wants to be a fan foremost, and I sense not for the same reasons that Fat Fred kept proclaiming his fan status. If you take away the fun, why would he want the hassle?

 

That's all well and good but really lets be honest if he wanted to be a fan he could just be a fan. Theres no need to buy a club (including it's mountainous debts) to do that, and of course once you've bought a club then you have to run the club, which again can't be much fun unless youre up for that sort of thing. All that to one side though, surely he can see that the only real way that following a team genuinely involves some fun is if it involves some degree of success. Whether he 'wants to be a fan' or not he's not so thick that he can't foresee it's going to involve a lot more aggro than fun if he doesnt bring success on the pitch, so I'd hope he'd realise that that has to be his only remit.

 

If he brings success then he can stage dive into the Gallowgate from a helicopter for all I care and I'm sure he'd have the time of his life.

 

He'll have a lot more fun if/when he's responsible for making everyone else's lives fun and for me the route to doing that is for him to put his suit on.

 

He didn't buy it because he was a fan, he bought it to have fun, in the sense of getting us to play in the manner we are famous for. He knows everything you've stated up there, and is working on it in his own way. Forcing him to suit up if he doen't want to will only result in him getting pissed off and leaving.

[RlCO 0]

I'd put Shepherd more in the 'genuine fan' category than Ashley. I agree it's probably a 'plaything' rather than a business though from his point of view.

 

I meant fan as in he just wants to enjoy watching the team he has bankrolled. I think Fred was more into recieving the plaudits for the local boy done good shite, or playing on the world stage. He loved it with his 8th best crap and all that.

[Guest alex]

I'd put Shepherd more in the 'genuine fan' category than Ashley. I agree it's probably a 'plaything' rather than a business though from his point of view.

 

I meant fan as in he just wants to enjoy watching the team he has bankrolled. I think Fred was more into recieving the plaudits for the local boy done good shite, or playing on the world stage. He loved it with his 8th best crap and all that.

I'd go along with that.

[Offshore Toon 0]

The only reason I'm not worried is because I'm pretty sure that things can't get much worse. They probably will now that I've said that.

[manc-mag 1]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

so far he hasn't really spent the millions we all thought a billionaire owner would and he's got the first big decision he's had to make wrong imo. the timing of the sacking was odd, the fact that he didn't have someone lined up was poor and being publicly snubbed by redknapp was just embarrasing.

 

he needs to get a good manager in, back him and give him time. and he could do with spending more time in the posh seats and less with his toon top in the away end if you ask me. if he is prepared to do all of that then i'd say we are in good hands simply because of how much the man is worth but i expected a more professional approach tbh

 

I was mortified (fnarr) the first time I saw that and I agree 100% with Dan. Whether he wants to be a fan or not, he has to realise he cannot be a fan in that sense. It would be prejudicial to everyone's interests as we need his business head on and nowt else.

 

Hopefully that period will come to an end now as he's going to be forced to knuckle down on the managerial appointment. From that point on, everything at the club will have his hallmark (Jesus can't avoid the Chairman references we've had so many) and he'll be accountable for everything that happens, success or failure. Hopefully he's already seen that and has remembered that his business successes are associated with him wearing a suit.

 

He's standing with the fans at the odd away game because when he felt forced to at the Sunderland game he enjoyed it, and he wants to keep enjoying it.

 

I see nothing wrong with it.

 

I understand the history behind it but I disagree with your conclusion. He needs to be distanced from that type of carry on and we need his cool business savvy. I just think it can only distract in the long run.

 

You're kind of taking away from him the reason why he bought the club. We aren't just another company for him to make a profit from, he wants to be a fan foremost, and I sense not for the same reasons that Fat Fred kept proclaiming his fan status. If you take away the fun, why would he want the hassle?

 

That's all well and good but really lets be honest if he wanted to be a fan he could just be a fan. Theres no need to buy a club (including it's mountainous debts) to do that, and of course once you've bought a club then you have to run the club, which again can't be much fun unless youre up for that sort of thing. All that to one side though, surely he can see that the only real way that following a team genuinely involves some fun is if it involves some degree of success. Whether he 'wants to be a fan' or not he's not so thick that he can't foresee it's going to involve a lot more aggro than fun if he doesnt bring success on the pitch, so I'd hope he'd realise that that has to be his only remit.

 

If he brings success then he can stage dive into the Gallowgate from a helicopter for all I care and I'm sure he'd have the time of his life.

 

He'll have a lot more fun if/when he's responsible for making everyone else's lives fun and for me the route to doing that is for him to put his suit on.

 

He didn't buy it because he was a fan, he bought it to have fun, in the sense of getting us to play in the manner we are famous for. He knows everything you've stated up there, and is working on it in his own way. Forcing him to suit up if he doen't want to will only result in him getting pissed off and leaving.

 

To be honest I think the 'getting us to play in the manner we are famous for' was just an opportunistic soundbite response in part justification of the sacking of Allardyce.

 

I agree he's different to Shepherd and I don't think he's in it to turn a profit, but I still think his first aim has got to be (and indeed probably is) to win something. Thats how you have fun.

 

The guy's not a mong. he'll know he'll sharp stop having fun if everyone on the 'terraces' is disillusioned with things.

[Craig 6702]

early days yet but apart from clearing the club's debt, ashley has done nowt so far to convince me that he will take the club any further than shepherd did.

 

Worrying when you consider what damaging effect Shepherd evidently had on the club. Amazing the stuff that's coming out now about him to be honest.

 

Ashley appears to be doing things above board. That in itself will take the club further.