RlCO 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 What the fuck is wrong with everyone? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's you that's got Messiahitis. I think I'm seeing things on here today. Every pro-Redknapp post on here is exactly what was said about Allardyce. Fucking time-warp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31471 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 What the fuck is wrong with everyone? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's you that's got Messiahitis. I think I'm seeing things on here today. Every pro-Redknapp post on here is exactly what was said about Allardyce. Fucking time-warp. I was thinking the same myself, but what else can we do? No point in acting like it's the end of the world, a bit of optimism around the club is exactly what we need after the past 5 months of depression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 It would definitely be a change for the better. Thats my view too, although there are others I would prefer, I certainly think he's a step forward from Allardyce. Just remember you said this after 9 matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 What the fuck is wrong with everyone? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's you that's got Messiahitis. I think I'm seeing things on here today. Every pro-Redknapp post on here is exactly what was said about Allardyce. Fucking time-warp. Not me Mr, I despised everything about Allardyce. I have the odd reservation about Redknapp (he's on bail, will he really fly back and forward? etc) and the boards limited ambition in having him down as their number one target. But he'd be a better appointment than Allardyce or Souness. He's took West Ham and Portsmouth from the doldrums into the upper echelons in short timescales, none of your 5 year plans from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Though this doesn't bode well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Redknapp#Managerial_stats He doesn't really win enough games does he? Only one club where he did better than Roeder did at Newcastle. Even in his most recent spell at Portsmouth, he's won less than Souness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Though this doesn't bode well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Redknapp#Managerial_stats He doesn't really win enough games does he? Only one club where he did better than Roeder did at Newcastle. Even in his most recent spell at Portsmouth, he's won less than Souness. It's not surprising he's champing at the bit to get this job is it? His only crack at the big time. What a fucking disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Though this doesn't bode well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Redknapp#Managerial_stats He doesn't really win enough games does he? Only one club where he did better than Roeder did at Newcastle. Even in his most recent spell at Portsmouth, he's won less than Souness. I know you're fond of your Roeder win ratio stat but it's fairly clear to me that 1) It was skewed by his time as caretaker and 2) It was getting prgressively worse all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 It would definitely be a change for the better. Thats my view too, although there are others I would prefer, I certainly think he's a step forward from Allardyce. Just remember you said this after 9 matches You can't fault me on my Souness, Roeder and Allardyce out campaigns, they were proved perfectly just in hindsight, its just I lost patience with them about 3 months before anyone else did. Think of me as the Toon Nostradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big TRon 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Though this doesn't bode well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Redknapp#Managerial_stats He doesn't really win enough games does he? Only one club where he did better than Roeder did at Newcastle. Even in his most recent spell at Portsmouth, he's won less than Souness. Would you expect a team like Portsmouth to have a big win ratio though? Souness has managed mostly top clubs which is why his record is so pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 It would definitely be a change for the better. Thats my view too, although there are others I would prefer, I certainly think he's a step forward from Allardyce. Just remember you said this after 9 matches You can't fault me on my Souness, Roeder and Allardyce out campaigns, they were proved perfectly just in hindsight, its just I lost patience with them about 3 months before anyone else did. Think of me as the Toon Nostradamus You say that but look where we've ended up each time as a result of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Though this doesn't bode well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Redknapp#Managerial_stats He doesn't really win enough games does he? Only one club where he did better than Roeder did at Newcastle. Even in his most recent spell at Portsmouth, he's won less than Souness. I know you're fond of your Roeder win ratio stat but it's fairly clear to me that 1) It was skewed by his time as caretaker and 2) It was getting prgressively worse all the time. Wasn't a "how great is Roeder" point (that was in another thread). But that Redknapp doesn't achieve a level even our most hated managers could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Though this doesn't bode well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Redknapp#Managerial_stats He doesn't really win enough games does he? Only one club where he did better than Roeder did at Newcastle. Even in his most recent spell at Portsmouth, he's won less than Souness. I know you're fond of your Roeder win ratio stat but it's fairly clear to me that 1) It was skewed by his time as caretaker and 2) It was getting prgressively worse all the time. Wasn't a "how great is Roeder" point (that was in another thread). But that Redknapp doesn't achieve a level even our most hated managers could. At a smaller club to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) Anyone who thinks this is a good appointment and that it will go any other way than the previous three managers' reigns is deluded IMO. We will be back to square one soon. Edited January 11, 2008 by Bombadil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1278 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Is there a word that means the same as no but is a million times stronger. I really do not see the point in exchanging one mediocre manager for another. Yes he may try and implement a better style of football than Allardyce but really anyone could do that. I would like to think that we are a club with ambition, and I'm not talking about some wild belief that we should be challenging for the league next year or anything like that. We are a club with better resources than 90% of the teams in this country and as such we should be able to compete with anyone and look to be sniffing around the top five on a consistant basis. Appointing a manager who has no track record, is managing a team only three places above us, a team who have won only two home games all season and have failled to score in most of their home games is not showing any sort of ambition as far as I can see. If he is given a vast transfer kitty who will he be able to spend it on? What has he got to attract top class players? The level he has been at for years is what he is good at and isn't what's going to be needed to take a team into Europe. Yet another fuckup by this club and a worrying sign of either the intent or intellegence of our owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Though this doesn't bode well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Redknapp#Managerial_stats He doesn't really win enough games does he? Only one club where he did better than Roeder did at Newcastle. Even in his most recent spell at Portsmouth, he's won less than Souness. Would you expect a team like Portsmouth to have a big win ratio though? Souness has managed mostly top clubs which is why his record is so pathetic. It was Souness' record at Newcastle I was talking about, where we finished lower than Portsmouth have in Harry's spells. Souness had plenty of european games against fc windowcleaner to placate the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Is there a word that means the same as no but is a million times stronger. NO! It would appear not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Anyone who thinks this is a good appointment and that it will go any other way than the previous three managers' reigns is deluded IMO. We will be back to square one soon. He might last a bit longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I'd welcome him, for the simple fact it's the least he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Anyone who thinks this is a good appointment and that it will go any other way than the previous three managers' reigns is deluded IMO. We will be back to square one soon. He might last a bit longer Not hard when BSA was the shortest NUFC managerial reign ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Anyone who thinks this is a good appointment and that it will go any other way than the previous three managers' reigns is deluded IMO. We will be back to square one soon. He might last a bit longer Not hard when BSA was the shortest NUFC managerial reign ever. Nothing gets past you, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1278 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I'd welcome him, for the simple fact it's the least he deserves. I've got nothing against him, I've always quite liked him actually, it's the decision to appoint him that I have a problem with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Well, to the question posted, yes I would welcome him. As I think everyone should, whether they wanted him or not. If the question was could we have done better? Then Id also say yes we could have if we went for a foreign manager and spent more time looking (before Sam was out). If the question was are you happy with the appointment? Id more say relieved that it wasnt McLaren (which really had me shitting myself) or even hughes. However, in relation to previous three managers. I do think Harry is way better than Souness (man management, signings, tactics all). I think he is better than Roeder mainly due to experience. As for Sam, its not that I disliked the person (like GS), it was the manner is which we were loosing. The awful style. Like I read somewhere. Winning ugly may have been accepted, not loosing ugly. Im sure Sam could go elsewhere and repeat what he done at Bolton given time. I just dont think we wanted to be that club. I reckon Harry might not be better than Sam (achieving Europe is possible but that would be it, as I think Sam could have given time), but I reckon he could get us there in a more acceptable fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9994 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 He will probably be a significant improvement in short-term especially by applying more positive tactics, but long term I don't think he will take the club further forward than Allardyce probably would have done given time. I can't see Redknapp being able to restore the the club to the level where it was under Robson (or earlier), though as with all recent appointments I hope to be proven wrong. Biggest problem will be that so many fans are against him that he needs to be successful right from the start to win them over. I can see a deja vu in the making... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 So we now basically just appoint the English manager who is most upset after not getting the England job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 So we now basically just appoint the English manager who is most upset after not getting the England job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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