Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Ashley seems to know what he's doing as a businessman. That rather depends on who you ask. Who should we ask, fellow self-made billionaires? sports direct shareholders and City types in general seem to think he's a bit of a joke tbh I won't even pretend to know what the city thinks of him although I've heard he's a bit of a maverick which probably ruffles a few feathers. As for Sports Direct, the floatation didn't go to plan. Are you seriously suggesting a bloke who is now a billionaire after starting with next to nowt and leaving school at 16 isn't business savvy though? no. you can't argue with his business acumen but he is viewed as a bit of a maverick Thought not. Did you have a point then? Thought not. fucking hell man. i'm sure it used to be fun exchanging banter with you sports direct has lost over two-thirds of its value since it floated and in their last results presser, ashley accused a merril anlyst of being a moron. so my point was that despite his obvious sucess, he's viewed as a bit of a joke in the city....and sd shareholders don't view him in the best light That's irony rather than sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22457 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Ashley seems to know what he's doing as a businessman. That rather depends on who you ask. Who should we ask, fellow self-made billionaires? sports direct shareholders and City types in general seem to think he's a bit of a joke tbh I won't even pretend to know what the city thinks of him although I've heard he's a bit of a maverick which probably ruffles a few feathers. As for Sports Direct, the floatation didn't go to plan. Are you seriously suggesting a bloke who is now a billionaire after starting with next to nowt and leaving school at 16 isn't business savvy though? no. you can't argue with his business acumen but he is viewed as a bit of a maverick Thought not. Did you have a point then? Thought not. fucking hell man. i'm sure it used to be fun exchanging banter with you sports direct has lost over two-thirds of its value since it floated and in their last results presser, ashley accused a merril anlyst of being a moron. so my point was that despite his obvious sucess, he's viewed as a bit of a joke in the city....and sd shareholders don't view him in the best light That's irony rather than sarcasm you're angling for one of these aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 you're angling for one of these aren't you? What questions have I dodged then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22457 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 you're angling for one of these aren't you? What questions have I dodged then? well, not a question as such but you chose to pick up on my first sentence again rather than accept that that i might actually know a bit about ashley's reputation in the City. unlike craig who clearly knows nothing at all about sports direct's results since flotation and ashley's image among its shareholders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 you're angling for one of these aren't you? What questions have I dodged then? well, not a question as such but you chose to pick up on my first sentence again rather than accept that that i might actually know a bit about ashley's reputation in the City. unlike craig who clearly knows nothing at all about sports direct's results since flotation and ashley's image among its shareholders. I'm really struggling to see your point Dan. Tom said he was knew what he was doing as a businessman, RICO hinted that wasn't necessarily the case, I said his rise from obscurity suggested he did know what he was doing. I never claimed to know anything about his reputation in the City beyond him being regarded as a maverick. Again, where have I dodged anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbert Colon 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I am not sure what his current regard within the city counts for but either way he has made more money than all of us put together times lots and lots therefore he ranks in my eyes as a bloke who is not daft because if he is i must be somewhere below amoeba. I will relax and chuckle at all the southern gutter press slagging us off and presenting a myriad of candidates for us to rant over safe in the knowledge that the deal is done and big mike has got the right man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31470 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I am not sure what his current regard within the city counts for but either way he has made more money than all of us put together times lots and lots therefore he ranks in my eyes as a bloke who is not daft because if he is i must be somewhere below amoeba. When you look at the disregard he has for his shareholders, the way the company's chairman suddenly departed and the fact that after 8 months they still haven't been able to find anyone suitable willing to take the job then you have to ask questions about his style and how he runs his businesses. I'm not saying that he's a bad business man but he certainly appears to have his failings and it'll be interesting to see how those failings affect us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) Shepherd was no mug in business to be fair....didn't mean he could run a football club terribly well. It's not inconceivable that Ashley got fortunate and rode the wave, ending up ridiculously wealthy. Not saying he's a mug, he obviously isn't, but there are a lot of variants in between. Edited January 10, 2008 by Asprilla's foreskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I am not sure what his current regard within the city counts for but either way he has made more money than all of us put together times lots and lots therefore he ranks in my eyes as a bloke who is not daft because if he is i must be somewhere below amoeba. When you look at the disregard he has for his shareholders, the way the company's chairman suddenly departed and the fact that after 8 months they still haven't been able to find anyone suitable willing to take the job then you have to ask questions about his style and how he runs his businesses. I'm not saying that he's a bad business man but he certainly appears to have his failings and it'll be interesting to see how those failings affect us. Isnt it that its not so much he is a bad businessman, but his methods and actions do not suit the city? Consequently, the share prices have suffered yet the companies themselves are actually doing ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31470 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I am not sure what his current regard within the city counts for but either way he has made more money than all of us put together times lots and lots therefore he ranks in my eyes as a bloke who is not daft because if he is i must be somewhere below amoeba. When you look at the disregard he has for his shareholders, the way the company's chairman suddenly departed and the fact that after 8 months they still haven't been able to find anyone suitable willing to take the job then you have to ask questions about his style and how he runs his businesses. I'm not saying that he's a bad business man but he certainly appears to have his failings and it'll be interesting to see how those failings affect us. Isnt it that its not so much he is a bad businessman, but his methods and actions do not suit the city? Consequently, the share prices have suffered yet the companies themselves are actually doing ok? Profits have been falling steadily over the past year as well, though it wouldn't surprise me if this was happening throughout the sports retailing industry but I'm not sure whether that's the case or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 He floated the company, made an absolute killing as the shares were overpriced. He is now buying the company back for less than he sold it Its pissed the people who lost money on the shares off, meanwhile he now has a big bag of money AND the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Sports Direct flotation exceeded expectations by all accounts. Eh? The price has been on the slide since the IPO and shares are now worth less than a third of their initial value, hence why Ashley has been buying them back. To say the floatation has been a disaster would be closer to the mark. The 'flotation' was considered a success - what's happened since was not what I was referencing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11053 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The thing that's really coming out of this for me is how few leaks there are in this administration. Bookies and ITK-ers in the media were more often not pretty bang on with the person we were going to get, but the amount of names that are being labeled as certainties, only to be disavowed hours later smacks of a ship tighter than Doug Ellis' purse strings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22457 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I am not sure what his current regard within the city counts for but either way he has made more money than all of us put together times lots and lots therefore he ranks in my eyes as a bloke who is not daft because if he is i must be somewhere below amoeba. I will relax and chuckle at all the southern gutter press slagging us off and presenting a myriad of candidates for us to rant over safe in the knowledge that the deal is done and big mike has got the right man. do tell more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 He floated the company, made an absolute killing as the shares were overpriced. He is now buying the company back for less than he sold it Its pissed the people who lost money on the shares off, meanwhile he now has a big bag of money AND the company. Sounds like he knows what he's doing to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The thing that's really coming out of this for me is how few leaks there are in this administration. Bookies and ITK-ers in the media were more often not pretty bang on with the person we were going to get, but the amount of names that are being labeled as certainties, only to be disavowed hours later smacks of a ship tighter than Doug Ellis' purse strings Sorry for jumping on your bandwagon Tuna Boy but you could be on to something there. As Alex pointed out the more the likes of Moyes etc are throw into the picture the more it shows no one has a clue other than the two big fingers, as I said earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 All I keep reading from various sources is people saying, "No, xxx is not inline for the job". These have rules out Shearer (BBC), McLaren (Anal), Moyes (Kenwright) & Redknapp (various). Then if you look into the line about it must be someone in a job now it rules out Mourinho, Jol & Lippi. Kinda only leaves Hughes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22457 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I am not sure what his current regard within the city counts for but either way he has made more money than all of us put together times lots and lots therefore he ranks in my eyes as a bloke who is not daft because if he is i must be somewhere below amoeba. When you look at the disregard he has for his shareholders, the way the company's chairman suddenly departed and the fact that after 8 months they still haven't been able to find anyone suitable willing to take the job then you have to ask questions about his style and how he runs his businesses. I'm not saying that he's a bad business man but he certainly appears to have his failings and it'll be interesting to see how those failings affect us. he's ruthless like and doesn't care who he pisses off. probably the reason why there was so much gossip about him looking for a quick sale after buying us. but that doesn't look like it's the case - it seems he's in it for the long term which has got to be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 All I keep reading from various sources is people saying, "No, xxx is not inline for the job". These have rules out Shearer (BBC), McLaren (Anal), Moyes (Kenwright) & Redknapp (various). Then if you look into the line about it must be someone in a job now it rules out Mourinho, Jol & Lippi. Kinda only leaves Hughes..... What about Ashleys mate from Tottenham's comments? 'If I were a Newcastle fan I would be very, very excited' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I am not sure what his current regard within the city counts for but either way he has made more money than all of us put together times lots and lots therefore he ranks in my eyes as a bloke who is not daft because if he is i must be somewhere below amoeba. When you look at the disregard he has for his shareholders, the way the company's chairman suddenly departed and the fact that after 8 months they still haven't been able to find anyone suitable willing to take the job then you have to ask questions about his style and how he runs his businesses. I'm not saying that he's a bad business man but he certainly appears to have his failings and it'll be interesting to see how those failings affect us. he's ruthless like and doesn't care who he pisses off. probably the reason why there was so much gossip about him looking for a quick sale after buying us. but that doesn't look like it's the case - it seems he's in it for the long term which has got to be a good thing. That's better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31470 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 All I keep reading from various sources is people saying, "No, xxx is not inline for the job". These have rules out Shearer (BBC), McLaren (Anal), Moyes (Kenwright) & Redknapp (various). Then if you look into the line about it must be someone in a job now it rules out Mourinho, Jol & Lippi. Kinda only leaves Hughes..... Ultimately I don't think anyone apart from the few involved in making the decision has a clue who it's going to be. And wasn't part of Mourinho's severance deal that he couldn't manage another PL team until next season? Going through the 'proper channels' could mean getting him released from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22457 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I am not sure what his current regard within the city counts for but either way he has made more money than all of us put together times lots and lots therefore he ranks in my eyes as a bloke who is not daft because if he is i must be somewhere below amoeba. When you look at the disregard he has for his shareholders, the way the company's chairman suddenly departed and the fact that after 8 months they still haven't been able to find anyone suitable willing to take the job then you have to ask questions about his style and how he runs his businesses. I'm not saying that he's a bad business man but he certainly appears to have his failings and it'll be interesting to see how those failings affect us. he's ruthless like and doesn't care who he pisses off. probably the reason why there was so much gossip about him looking for a quick sale after buying us. but that doesn't look like it's the case - it seems he's in it for the long term which has got to be a good thing. That's better told you i was in the wait and see camp. won't stop me being nervous about the names the bookies have down as favourites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 All I keep reading from various sources is people saying, "No, xxx is not inline for the job". These have rules out Shearer (BBC), McLaren (Anal), Moyes (Kenwright) & Redknapp (various). Then if you look into the line about it must be someone in a job now it rules out Mourinho, Jol & Lippi. Kinda only leaves Hughes..... What about Ashleys mate from Tottenham's comments? 'If I were a Newcastle fan I would be very, very excited' Whilst in my heart of hearts my head still says we have no chance whatsoever the statement was that they are going through the right channels. Whose to say that isn't refering to doing a deal with Chelsea over the supposed talk of Mourinho not being able to manage another club this season. Yes I know its probably dreaming but let me be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 David Beckham player manager,trophy player manager signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 All I keep reading from various sources is people saying, "No, xxx is not inline for the job". These have rules out Shearer (BBC), McLaren (Anal), Moyes (Kenwright) & Redknapp (various). Then if you look into the line about it must be someone in a job now it rules out Mourinho, Jol & Lippi. Kinda only leaves Hughes..... Ultimately I don't think anyone apart from the few involved in making the decision has a clue who it's going to be. And wasn't part of Mourinho's severance deal that he couldn't manage another PL team until next season? Going through the 'proper channels' could mean getting him released from this. Beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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