JawD 99 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The tumbling odds on Hughes is worrying, and as for McLaren... well, he wouldnt would he? surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1278 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 My biggest worry is whether Ashley and Mort know enough about football to make the right decision. Neither of them have any experience in doing something like this. As I said in another thread I hope to god they are getting some advice from someone more knowlegeable than them. That said the names most football pundits are throwing up wouldn't inspire much confidence either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_NUFC 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) Tom, do I get the feeling youre one of the people who the media and other fans laugh at? "We want entertaining football we dont care if we loose, we just want entertaining, ala Liverppol 4-3" Stupid, I want to fucking win!!! I do care if we lose. I would take less exciting football (although not as dull as Allardyce) if it meant winning something. I'm just idealist/greedy I suppose. I want to win, but I want to do it in style. We weren't winning many games under Allardyce though and just scraping the ones we did get against crap sides. The reason the football was dull was because we were shit. If we were a good team we would by definition be playing much more entertaining football. I don't think the team is shit, I think the problem was that Allardyce set up the team was shit. Players in the wrong positions, the midfield stifled of creativity etc. You have point though, if the players wrre playing where they should be and if the midfield had a bit of creativity in there - ie if Emre played more often, we may well see better football. But even so, Allardyce's so called success at Bolton still produced dull football. Edited January 10, 2008 by Tom_NUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The tumbling odds on Hughes is worrying, and as for McLaren... well, he wouldnt would he? surely? Purely based on 'Arry ruling himself out would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3639 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Tom, do I get the feeling youre one of the people who the media and other fans laugh at? "We want entertaining football we dont care if we loose, we just want entertaining, ala Liverppol 4-3" Stupid, I want to fucking win!!! I do care if we lose. I would take less exciting football (although not as dull as Allardyce) if it meant winning something. I'm just idealist/greedy I suppose. I want to win, but I want to do it in style. We weren't winning many games under Allardyce though and just scraping the ones we did get against crap sides. The reason the football was dull was because we were shit. If we were a good team we would by definition be playing much more entertaining football. I don't think the team is shit, I think the problem was that Allardyce set up the team was shit. Players in the wrong positions, the midfield stifled of creativity etc. You have point though, if the players wrre playing where they should be and if the midfield had a bit of creativity in there - ie if Emre played more often, we may well see better football. But even so, Allardyce's so called success at Bolton still produced dull football. Isn't the answer to our lack of creativity in the midfield but neither was wanting to buy Diarra and Nolan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbert Colon 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Nice post and a nice avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Barring the top 4, Villa and as you say Tottenham are run by hard nosed businessmen. So we could still end up 7th. Plus even idiots like the corrupt Thai know that money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_NUFC 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. good post. Lets hope so. Ashley seems to know what he's doing as a businessman, so I'm hopeful he'll make a better appointment than old idiot brain ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Ashley seems to know what he's doing as a businessman. That rather depends on who you ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Ashley seems to know what he's doing as a businessman. That rather depends on who you ask. Who should we ask, fellow self-made billionaires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22457 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Ashley seems to know what he's doing as a businessman. That rather depends on who you ask. Who should we ask, fellow self-made billionaires? sports direct shareholders and City types in general seem to think he's a bit of a joke tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The tumbling odds on Hughes is worrying, and as for McLaren... well, he wouldnt would he? surely? The bookies aren't changing the odds based on what Ashley is telling them, it's based on people putting money on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Ashley seems to know what he's doing as a businessman. That rather depends on who you ask. Who should we ask, fellow self-made billionaires? sports direct shareholders and City types in general seem to think he's a bit of a joke tbh I won't even pretend to know what the city thinks of him although I've heard he's a bit of a maverick which probably ruffles a few feathers. As for Sports Direct, the floatation didn't go to plan. Are you seriously suggesting a bloke who is now a billionaire after starting with next to nowt and leaving school at 16 isn't business savvy though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Moyes being mentioned on SSN and talkSport. Kenwright has just denied it, saying Moyes has a big part to play in the future of Kirkby Tesco FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Ashley seems to know what he's doing as a businessman. That rather depends on who you ask. Who should we ask, fellow self-made billionaires? sports direct shareholders and City types in general seem to think he's a bit of a joke tbh I won't even pretend to know what the city thinks of him although I've heard he's a bit of a maverick which probably ruffles a few feathers. As for Sports Direct, the floatation didn't go to plan. Are you seriously suggesting a bloke who is now a billionaire after starting with next to nowt and leaving school at 16 isn't business savvy though? Conceeding that Mike Ashley is business savvy wouldn't fit in with Dan's whinging agenda though Sports Direct flotation exceeded expectations by all accounts. As has been said, he's not the common-old-garden type of businessman - he does it his way which does look a bit maverick and leftfield but there's absolutely no doubt he's a success in his field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I'm getting tired of this 'Ashley and Mort don't know anything about football' shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Moyes being mentioned on SSN and talkSport. Kenwright has just denied it, saying Moyes has a big part to play in the future of Kirkby Tesco FC. I'm pleased Moyes is now being linked because if nothing else it supports my notion the press haven't got a fucking clue who we're after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22457 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Ashley seems to know what he's doing as a businessman. That rather depends on who you ask. Who should we ask, fellow self-made billionaires? sports direct shareholders and City types in general seem to think he's a bit of a joke tbh I won't even pretend to know what the city thinks of him although I've heard he's a bit of a maverick which probably ruffles a few feathers. As for Sports Direct, the floatation didn't go to plan. Are you seriously suggesting a bloke who is now a billionaire after starting with next to nowt and leaving school at 16 isn't business savvy though? no. you can't argue with his business acumen but he is viewed as a bit of a maverick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22457 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Moyes being mentioned on SSN and talkSport. Kenwright has just denied it, saying Moyes has a big part to play in the future of Kirkby Tesco FC. I'm pleased Moyes is now being linked because if nothing else it supports my notion the press haven't got a fucking clue who we're after. do you know something they don't? who do you think we're after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Ashley seems to know what he's doing as a businessman. That rather depends on who you ask. Who should we ask, fellow self-made billionaires? sports direct shareholders and City types in general seem to think he's a bit of a joke tbh I won't even pretend to know what the city thinks of him although I've heard he's a bit of a maverick which probably ruffles a few feathers. As for Sports Direct, the floatation didn't go to plan. Are you seriously suggesting a bloke who is now a billionaire after starting with next to nowt and leaving school at 16 isn't business savvy though? no. you can't argue with his business acumen but he is viewed as a bit of a maverick Thought not. Did you have a point then? Thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22457 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Ashley seems to know what he's doing as a businessman. That rather depends on who you ask. Who should we ask, fellow self-made billionaires? sports direct shareholders and City types in general seem to think he's a bit of a joke tbh I won't even pretend to know what the city thinks of him although I've heard he's a bit of a maverick which probably ruffles a few feathers. As for Sports Direct, the floatation didn't go to plan. Are you seriously suggesting a bloke who is now a billionaire after starting with next to nowt and leaving school at 16 isn't business savvy though? Conceeding that Mike Ashley is business savvy wouldn't fit in with Dan's whinging agenda though whinging agenda? fuck off you knacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Moyes being mentioned on SSN and talkSport. Kenwright has just denied it, saying Moyes has a big part to play in the future of Kirkby Tesco FC. I'm pleased Moyes is now being linked because if nothing else it supports my notion the press haven't got a fucking clue who we're after. do you know something they don't? who do you think we're after? No. I'm not saying I know. I'm suggesting that by throwing up new names every hour or so, the press are in the dark. Did that really need clarifying though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22457 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I honestly don't know what we are worrying about - Ashleys best mate is paul kelmsley and when tottingham decided to make a change they simply went out and got the bloke with the best cv that could produce thr type of football they were after - done and dusted - and i am sure he will look at that and think he can do the same. Can't see it being jol or hughes (jol because of the tottenham link and hughes because he has won nowt) Mclaren is an arse and shearer is a stupid risk (certainly when a £250m investment is at stake. As far as redknapp is concerned he may well be able to organise the team and win the players over and produce some good football and results - its not rocket science and our players are not as shite as the recent woeful displays would indicate. My personal view is that a hard nosed aggressive business type like ashley wants a top guy - will stop at nothing to get him and as a result will back him and we will move forward and all this hullabaloo will be forgotten. Ashley seems to know what he's doing as a businessman. That rather depends on who you ask. Who should we ask, fellow self-made billionaires? sports direct shareholders and City types in general seem to think he's a bit of a joke tbh I won't even pretend to know what the city thinks of him although I've heard he's a bit of a maverick which probably ruffles a few feathers. As for Sports Direct, the floatation didn't go to plan. Are you seriously suggesting a bloke who is now a billionaire after starting with next to nowt and leaving school at 16 isn't business savvy though? no. you can't argue with his business acumen but he is viewed as a bit of a maverick Thought not. Did you have a point then? Thought not. fucking hell man. i'm sure it used to be fun exchanging banter with you sports direct has lost over two-thirds of its value since it floated and in their last results presser, ashley accused a merril anlyst of being a moron. so my point was that despite his obvious sucess, he's viewed as a bit of a joke in the city....and sd shareholders don't view him in the best light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31470 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Sports Direct flotation exceeded expectations by all accounts. Eh? The price has been on the slide since the IPO and shares are now worth less than a third of their initial value, hence why Ashley has been buying them back. To say the floatation has been a disaster would be closer to the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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