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Former Newcastle striker Mick Quinn believes it was the Newcastle fans that forced Sam Allardyce out - and it will be those fans that get Alan Shearer the job.

 

 

 

Allardyce left the club "by mutual consent" after just 24 games in charge as reported first on Sky Sports News.

 

 

Quinn, who scored 63 goals in 126 games for the club, did think the former Bolton boss was starting to win the supporters over, but feels that owner Mike Ashley eventually bowed to public pressure.

 

 

"If anyone's been to Newcastle, it's like a goldfish bowl," he told Sky Sports News.

 

 

"I call it the People's Republic of Newcastle and if they're not happy, they will have their say - and Mike Ashley has been amongst them and has been listening to them.

 

 

"I did think that in the last two or three games he had won them over, because he had been getting a good reception. Look at the reception at Stoke - but I suppose that was more relief than anything that they didn't get beat!

 

 

"To be fair it's been building and building. It doesn't look they'll win anything this season, or like they've moved on from last season. Looking ahead it doesn't really give you anything for the future either.

 

 

"Sam will be disappointed, because he's a passionate guy, but I'm afraid the fans have won again. And they'll want one of their own now."

 

 

 

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Geordie legend Alan Shearer was immediately installed as the bookmakers' favourite to take over at St James Park.

 

 

Jose Mourinho, Steve McClaren and Martin Jol are among those also being linked with the vacant post, but Quinn is convinced that despite his lack of managerial experience, the former England and Newcastle number nine, will get the nod.

 

 

"Kevin Keegan went back to the club as manager and that worked out quite well and they'll want something similar for Alan Shearer," he said.

 

 

"He turned down Manchester United to go to Newcastle and they are eternally grateful for that - forget about all the goals - and now they want him as their number one.

 

 

"Alan Shearer would be as good as anyone and I can't really see beyond him. They've tried Graeme Souness, Kenny Dalglish, Ruud Gullit, they've tried the big names.

 

 

"They've gone for Bobby Robson and experience and it just hasn't worked out. They need a fresh face and maybe an old head to advise a younger man like Alan.

 

 

"But when I was up there, they were screaming for Shearer - and they'll be disappointed if they don't get him."

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How did Robson not work out?

 

 

He was sacked leaving the club 17th. No manager sacked since has left us lower have they?

 

I take your point though, he worked out well in most other ways.

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How did Robson not work out?

 

 

He was sacked leaving the club 17th. No manager sacked since has left us lower have they?

 

I take your point though, he worked out well in most other ways.

He worked out well overall though without going into the ins and outs of the timing, etc. again.

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How did Robson not work out?

 

 

He was sacked leaving the club 17th. No manager sacked since has left us lower have they?

 

I take your point though, he worked out well in most other ways.

 

after how many games that season???? 4 wasn't it....what a load of shite

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How did Robson not work out?

 

 

He was sacked leaving the club 17th. No manager sacked since has left us lower have they?

 

I take your point though, he worked out well in most other ways.

 

after how many games that season???? 4 wasn't it....what a load of shite

 

Whatever your thoughts on Robson, it didn't work out. 99% of the blame for that sits with Freddie Shepherd....but it didn't work out well in the end.

 

If a capable manager had been appointed after Robson got the boot, the good work he'd done might have continued. But they weren't.

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Rather strange way of judging it. You could argue KK didn't work out well in his first stint as manager on that basis.

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Rather strange way of judging it. You could argue KK didn't work out well in his first stint as manager on that basis.

 

....except Keegan left us leagues ahead of where he found us and wasn't sacked.

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Rather strange way of judging it. You could argue KK didn't work out well in his first stint as manager on that basis.

 

....except Keegan left us leagues ahead of where he found us and wasn't sacked.

That some strict criteria you've got there btw. :D We rapidly went downhill after KK left, albeit his side saw us to 2nd that season (the two seasons after were poor masked by cup runs). I know we were 17th when Robson was sacked but I'd judge him on his PL finishes and I'd say we were better off than when he took us over. That's why I'd argue it went well overall.

And I don't see how the way the manager left i.e. KK walking and SBR getting sacked makes the former better than the latter. If anything the former was far more devastating at the time.

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Rather strange way of judging it. You could argue KK didn't work out well in his first stint as manager on that basis.

 

....except Keegan left us leagues ahead of where he found us and wasn't sacked.

That some strict criteria you've got there btw. :D We rapidly went downhill after KK left, albeit his side saw us to 2nd that season (the two seasons after were poor masked by cup runs). I know we were 17th when Robson was sacked but I'd judge him on his PL finishes and I'd say we were better off than when he took us over. That's why I'd argue it went well overall.

And I don't see how the way the manager left i.e. KK walking and SBR getting sacked makes the former better than the latter. If anything the former was far more devastating at the time.

 

It was devastating to lose Keegan because he'd worked out so well. His employers and all the fans were happy, but he chose to walk with his head high than tread water.

 

It wasn't so devastating with Robson because the majority wanted him out including the people who sacked him for not working out.

 

I've agree'd from the start it went well overall, but i don't think Quinn had the time to go into the subtelties of all the caveats behind it going tits up in the end.

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So it went well overall, but it didn't 'work out' as you put it. Ok. How's that so different from Keegan's first stint then? Without going into the subtleties, since every spell is different. I think it's just a case of using different criteria but since Quinn mentioned Robson in the same breath as Gullit and Dalglish I took it to mean unsuccessful overall, rather than bad in the end.

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So it went well overall, but it didn't 'work out' as you put it. Ok. How's that so different from Keegan's first stint then? Without going into the subtleties, since every spell is different. I think it's just a case of using different criteria but since Quinn mentioned Robson in the same breath as Gullit and Dalglish I took it to mean unsuccessful overall, rather than bad in the end.

 

Gullit and Dalglish each came closer to silverware than Robson so by your rational, they didn't work out bad either.

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So it went well overall, but it didn't 'work out' as you put it. Ok. How's that so different from Keegan's first stint then? Without going into the subtleties, since every spell is different. I think it's just a case of using different criteria but since Quinn mentioned Robson in the same breath as Gullit and Dalglish I took it to mean unsuccessful overall, rather than bad in the end.

 

Gullit and Dalglish each came closer to silverware than Robson so by your rational, they didn't work out bad either.

:D Clutching at straws there. I never said getting close to silverware made those two a success did I? Stick to stats mate :lol:

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So it went well overall, but it didn't 'work out' as you put it. Ok. How's that so different from Keegan's first stint then? Without going into the subtleties, since every spell is different. I think it's just a case of using different criteria but since Quinn mentioned Robson in the same breath as Gullit and Dalglish I took it to mean unsuccessful overall, rather than bad in the end.

 

Gullit and Dalglish each came closer to silverware than Robson so by your rational, they didn't work out bad either.

:D Clutching at straws there. I never said getting close to silverware made those two a success did I? Stick to stats mate :lol:

 

 

Nah, you said it doesn't really matter how it ends. If I spent 5 happy years with a company where they thought I was the dogs bollocks but got sacked I'd say it didn't "work out". If I left of my own accord, then I'd say it did.

 

Can't be arsed arguing the semantics like. You took it one way, I took it another.

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So it went well overall, but it didn't 'work out' as you put it. Ok. How's that so different from Keegan's first stint then? Without going into the subtleties, since every spell is different. I think it's just a case of using different criteria but since Quinn mentioned Robson in the same breath as Gullit and Dalglish I took it to mean unsuccessful overall, rather than bad in the end.

 

Gullit and Dalglish each came closer to silverware than Robson so by your rational, they didn't work out bad either.

:D Clutching at straws there. I never said getting close to silverware made those two a success did I? Stick to stats mate :D

 

Nah, you said it doesn't really matter how it ends. If I spent 5 happy years with a company where they thought I was the dogs bollocks but got sacked I'd say it didn't "work out". If I left of my own accord, then I'd say it did.

 

Can't be arsed arguing the semantics like. You took it one way, I took it another.

No I didn't. And you obviously are arsed about semantics :lol:

I'll keep it simple shall I? I took Quinn's argument to be Robson wasn't a success, especially as he seemed to lumping him in others who weren't. I took issue with that. I'm not even sure what your argument is here tbh.

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