ewerk 29211 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Whoever it is, let's please not be negative immediately. I think it's hard not to be underwhelmed, even if it is only because some of us were being overly optimistic in our hopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The CV element only seems to apply to trophies won though, seeing as progress in the league, transfer record and back room development count for nowt. How can you take account of a managers CV when every single other manager has recently stated Sam had a good one? What's wrong with looking at achievements re. trophies? There are managers out there with champion's league, premier league, other league wins. This contrasts nicely with Allardyce. Is having won a trophy the minimum entry requirement then? After that, then you go on this long and winding process of considering respective CVs? If I were in charge, then, yes, I would take a manager who has won several domestic league titles and a champion's league above a manager who is currently working at second-division level having been sacked by three previous clubs. Disagree? And when you woke up? Answer the question. That was a question? You've got to be kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Whoever it is, let's please not be negative immediately. You can bet your life I will be "negative" if Harry Redknapp is our next manager. This is the man who "discovered" Amdy Faye FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6547 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 If it's either Hughes or Redknapp it's a massive sideways step. Both have done 'OK' with their current, mediocre clubs.... smacks very worryingly of Souness and Allardyce all over again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The CV element only seems to apply to trophies won though, seeing as progress in the league, transfer record and back room development count for nowt. How can you take account of a managers CV when every single other manager has recently stated Sam had a good one? What's wrong with looking at achievements re. trophies? There are managers out there with champion's league, premier league, other league wins. This contrasts nicely with Allardyce. Is having won a trophy the minimum entry requirement then? After that, then you go on this long and winding process of considering respective CVs? If I were in charge, then, yes, I would take a manager who has won several domestic league titles and a champion's league above a manager who is currently working at second-division level having been sacked by three previous clubs. Disagree? And when you woke up? Answer the question. That was a question? You've got to be kidding. Did the question mark not give it away, boy wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Given a straight choice between Arry and John Collins, I'd take Collins. And he's won a trophy! Yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Almost certain it will be Harry Redknapp. That's that then. 'Arry it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The CV element only seems to apply to trophies won though, seeing as progress in the league, transfer record and back room development count for nowt. How can you take account of a managers CV when every single other manager has recently stated Sam had a good one? What's wrong with looking at achievements re. trophies? There are managers out there with champion's league, premier league, other league wins. This contrasts nicely with Allardyce. Is having won a trophy the minimum entry requirement then? After that, then you go on this long and winding process of considering respective CVs? If I were in charge, then, yes, I would take a manager who has won several domestic league titles and a champion's league above a manager who is currently working at second-division level having been sacked by three previous clubs. Disagree? And when you woke up? Answer the question. That was a question? You've got to be kidding. Did the question mark not give it away, boy wonder? So, in your considered approach as owner, with consideration of CVs and careful drawn out process, those were the only two candidates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I'll be absolutely gutted if that's true. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Can he brink Utaka and Muntari with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggiespaws 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 If it's Redknapp we'll be an even bigger laughing stock than we already are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1203 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Hughes would be bad enough but at least he still has his career ahead of him, Redknapp is 60 and done nothing in carreer to suggest he is capable of building a team that is capable of mounting an attack on the top six. His preferred style of football might make the team play a bit better than Allardyce but that is the only positive I think of. If he has players in mind that he wants to sign this transfer window they are going to be Portsmouth standard players and while they might have a better team than us at the moment they are still a club that would see top ten as an excellent acheivement. While I would accept that this season, this certainly isn't where we need to be targeting going forward and these types of players aren't going to get us there. If this happens we really need to stop deluding ourselves that we are a big club because yet again we have failled to show the vision of a big club. To say I will be pissed off would be an understatement. It would be a worse day than the day we appointed Souness because before then our previous managerial appointments had been positive (even if they were failure in Dogleish and Gullit's cases) but now it's just one mess after another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 If it is i'll back him to the hilt, but I don't think Ashley will be sitting in with the fans for too much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6547 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 For the record I think long term he had to go but surely they should have waited until May? My only thought is they wouldn't have sacked him unless they had someone lined up but then we've been caught thinking that before and got our fingers burned... My real fear is that the translation of "going through the proper channels and taking as long as it takes" translates as whoever it is will not be released until February 1st and if that's the case, we've been seriously fucked over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) Hughes would be bad enough but at least he still has his career ahead of him, Redknapp is 60 and done nothing in carreer to suggest he is capable of building a team that is capable of mounting an attack on the top six.His preferred style of football might make the team play a bit better than Allardyce but that is the only positive I think of. If he has players in mind that he wants to sign this transfer window they are going to be Portsmouth standard players and while they might have a better team than us at the moment they are still a club that would see top ten as an excellent acheivement. While I would accept that this season, this certainly isn't where we need to be targeting going forward and these types of players aren't going to get us there. If this happens we really need to stop deluding ourselves that we are a big club because yet again we have failled to show the vision of a big club. To say I will be pissed off would be an understatement. It would be a worse day than the day we appointed Souness because before then our previous managerial appointments had been positive (even if they were failure in Dogleish and Gullit's cases) but now it's just one mess after another. Sums up my feelings. For what it's worth, here's Redknapp's recent record: West Ham 1997/98 8th 1998/1999 5th 1999/2000 9th 2000/2001 15th (sacked after 37 games) Portsmouth (1st spell) 2002/2003 1st, promoted to Premier League 2003/2004 13th 2004/2005 resigns in November Southampton 2004/2005 20th, relegated after taking over in December Portsmouth (2nd spell) 2005/2006 17th after taking over in November 2006/2007 9th Edited January 10, 2008 by Bombadil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Whoopy DO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Redknapp is to dodgy to employ with all the bung shite, shirley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Lippi: WORLD FUCKING CUP (among other things too numerous to mention) Mourinho: Champions league/Premiership blah blah Benitez: CL/cups/blah blah 'Arry Redknapp: Championship winners..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10335 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 seems daft to get rid of one suspect, to replace him with another.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Akabusi....please tell us you were making it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Hughes would be bad enough but at least he still has his career ahead of him, Redknapp is 60 and done nothing in carreer to suggest he is capable of building a team that is capable of mounting an attack on the top six.His preferred style of football might make the team play a bit better than Allardyce but that is the only positive I think of. If he has players in mind that he wants to sign this transfer window they are going to be Portsmouth standard players and while they might have a better team than us at the moment they are still a club that would see top ten as an excellent acheivement. While I would accept that this season, this certainly isn't where we need to be targeting going forward and these types of players aren't going to get us there. If this happens we really need to stop deluding ourselves that we are a big club because yet again we have failled to show the vision of a big club. To say I will be pissed off would be an understatement. It would be a worse day than the day we appointed Souness because before then our previous managerial appointments had been positive (even if they were failure in Dogleish and Gullit's cases) but now it's just one mess after another. Also worse because although the Souness/Roeder appointments were disappointing they were what you expected from Shepherd. I expect better from Ashley/Mort but this whole saga stinks of the fat man (the first one) yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akabusi 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) Must admit I'm seriously underwhelmed, sounds like it is almost done and will be completed pretty quickly. I hope he brings Tony Adams with him though, would be majorly pissed off if not, a good coach but chances are he might fancy the Pompey job. Only positive I can see are he is marginally better than Allardyce and he is now Mike Ashley's man so hopefully he will back to him to the hilt. Can't help feeling this was a chance to really make an impression though, and I can't see it going down overly well. Edited January 10, 2008 by Akabusi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Let's be realistic. Nobody better than Redknapp will come to the club. Doesn't matter how much money you throw at them, because bigger and better clubs are worth waiting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Must admit I'm seriously underwhelmed, sounds like it is almost done. I hope he brings Tony Adams with him though, would be majorly pissed off it not, a good coach but chances are he might fancy the Pompey job. Oh Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1203 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Hughes would be bad enough but at least he still has his career ahead of him, Redknapp is 60 and done nothing in carreer to suggest he is capable of building a team that is capable of mounting an attack on the top six.His preferred style of football might make the team play a bit better than Allardyce but that is the only positive I think of. If he has players in mind that he wants to sign this transfer window they are going to be Portsmouth standard players and while they might have a better team than us at the moment they are still a club that would see top ten as an excellent acheivement. While I would accept that this season, this certainly isn't where we need to be targeting going forward and these types of players aren't going to get us there. If this happens we really need to stop deluding ourselves that we are a big club because yet again we have failled to show the vision of a big club. To say I will be pissed off would be an understatement. It would be a worse day than the day we appointed Souness because before then our previous managerial appointments had been positive (even if they were failure in Dogleish and Gullit's cases) but now it's just one mess after another. Sums up my feelings. For what it's worth, here's Redknapp's recent record: West Ham 1997/98 8th 1998/1999 5th 1999/2000 9th 2000/2001 15th (sacked after 37 games) Portsmouth (1st spell) 2002/2003 1st, promoted to Premier League 2003/2004 13th 2004/2005 resigns in November Southampton 2004/2005 20th, relegated after taking over in December Portsmouth (2nd spell) 2005/2006 17th after taking over in November 2006/2007 9th Slightly better than I had expected but generally what I thought. Mediocre. True he's never had the funds of mangers at bigger clubs but there is a reason why the've never appointed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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