Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The CV element only seems to apply to trophies won though, seeing as progress in the league, transfer record and back room development count for nowt. How can you take account of a managers CV when every single other manager has recently stated Sam had a good one? Allardyce's CV was good but he'd never managed a club with larger expectations than Bolton. He didn't appear up to the job when he did but are you saying that because a manager with a decent CV failed here we should ignore manager's CVs in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 so... what exactly is it that you don't understand, I used those two managers purely for rhetoric, nothing else. I don't understand why you sarcastically said you were excited at the prospect of two managers joining since you've subsequently said you don't think either will arrive. I hope that clears that one up. I msutn't be explaining this right. I only used those two names as they are exemplars of the caliber of manager I expect we'll employ. I could as well have said "Middle of the road english manager who has won nothing and who's current job is pretty safe? oh aye, I positively tingle at the prospect. " but figured it wouldn't have the same punch as if I mentioned two managers who best epitomise the level I was wanting to illustrate. does that clear things up? and no Wacky I'm not seething, but you seem to only appear when you can latch yourself onto something somebody else has said. Sycophantically hopping onto whatever bandwagon you like. I'm yet to see an original or salient point come from you. Stop kidding yourself, you were livid pogo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The CV element only seems to apply to trophies won though, seeing as progress in the league, transfer record and back room development count for nowt. How can you take account of a managers CV when every single other manager has recently stated Sam had a good one? What's wrong with looking at achievements re. trophies? There are managers out there with champion's league, premier league, other league wins. This contrasts nicely with Allardyce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Out of interest, has Redknapp actually ever won anything as a manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Out of interest, has Redknapp actually ever won anything as a manager? Promotion with Bournemouth? And that's a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Out of interest, has Redknapp actually ever won anything as a manager? Promotion with Bournemouth? And that's a guess. Thats him off the potential candidates list then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The CV element only seems to apply to trophies won though, seeing as progress in the league, transfer record and back room development count for nowt. How can you take account of a managers CV when every single other manager has recently stated Sam had a good one? What's wrong with looking at achievements re. trophies? There are managers out there with champion's league, premier league, other league wins. This contrasts nicely with Allardyce. Let's get Souness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Out of interest, has Redknapp actually ever won anything as a manager? Promotion with Bournemouth? And that's a guess. That's about it, yes, I've just had a look at his Wikipedia entry. In a way Redknapp, too, is just another flavour of the month manager - his CV isn't particularly impressive at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Out of interest, has Redknapp actually ever won anything as a manager? Promotion with Bournemouth? And that's a guess. That's about it, yes, I've just had a look at his Wikipedia entry. In a way Redknapp, too, is just another flavour of the month manager - his CV isn't particularly impressive at all. Funny after the coppers went round his gaff though. Shirley was none too chuffed though. He had to give her a dry slap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 877 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I'll have Hughes if and only if he brings Roque Santa Cruz (or Bentley) with him. Otherwise, I've resigned myself to 'Arry. It'll be interesting, if nothing else. How long will you give them? Until ESPN shows a game which we lose? Hilarious. ESPN doesn't show Toon games if you're wondering, but clearly you know it all. (Fox Soccer Channel shows them, and I don't think we've won a game on FSC since Roeder v. Liverpool last year. They usually show us v. top four teams.) And I hardly think I've been vocal about wanting rid of Allardyce. Yes, I have consistently predicted his demise - it was always going to happen after the Derby defeat, in my opinion, and it was just a question of when - but I'm not happy about how farcical it makes us look, the greater sense of instability it has generated, and the (likely) appointment of another shite manager. But no, go on, keep having a go, you and your US Nazi flag. We drew with Derby. It might have felt like a loss to the crybabies lamenting the death of "their" club as they know it, but it was definitely a draw. Unless you're suggesting he was done for 5 games into the season. Oh no, I meant the first Derby game. That was the first game where his truly shit team selections began to show. A defensive team (against Derby!) with 4 central midfielders (Smith and Geremi among them), no width at all, no creativity, and Ameobi playing. And this after we were unbeaten to this point, not like we were trying to stop a losing slide or anything. I thought to myself (mystic ATP) "This isn't the man who will succeed at Newcastle. If he can't prove this game wasn't a blip the fans and press will eat him alive." As it turned out there were many many more blips. The media only needs a few "unattractive/unappealing/defensive" games that we lose or draw badly in order to begin the whole "Toon fans want attacking football" line again and when it became apparent that he wouldn't be providing attacking football, some of the fans began to believe it. His awful selections didn't help either. The formation against Liverpool I think was the low point of his "tactics" with us but there were many other occasions for ridicule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 so you did hang him out to dry after 5 games then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 At least we're not having loads of shit transfer rumours appearing anymore. When other managers sack their manager, is there this much press coverage? And people say we're not a big club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 there was an everton email earlier whining that our fickleness is matched only by our arrogance, we're not a big club and we've won nothing. Irony is a beautiful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 At least we're not having loads of shit transfer rumours appearing anymore. When other managers sack their manager, is there this much press coverage? And people say we're not a big club Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The CV element only seems to apply to trophies won though, seeing as progress in the league, transfer record and back room development count for nowt. How can you take account of a managers CV when every single other manager has recently stated Sam had a good one? What's wrong with looking at achievements re. trophies? There are managers out there with champion's league, premier league, other league wins. This contrasts nicely with Allardyce. Is having won a trophy the minimum entry requirement then? After that, then you go on this long and winding process of considering respective CVs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 By the way: Who's the next man to take over at Newcastle? It's still looking like Redknapp, even though the man himself has said no approach has been made So Redknapp hasn't said no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 didn't redknapp say he had no intention of managing a club north of london? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 quotes are that he's turned it down before and he's very happy on the south coast... which means he could be in line for the Eastbourne job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 didn't redknapp say he had no intention of managing a club north of london? Lets hope he keeps to his promise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Odds shortening for Keegan now... 8/1 at places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 7/1 with Ladbrokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Sky have just said AGAIN that it won't be a foreign manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Odds shortening for Keegan now... 8/1 at places. yet more proof that no-one has a fucking clue. Keegan will never leave his football school thing, especially not to leap straight back into the obscene pressure he'd be under at Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Sky have just said AGAIN that it won't be a foreign manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 where are they pulling that from though? I've seen no statements from the club alluding to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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