Kid Dynamite 7273 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No matter which paper you read or radio station you listen to today, their bile about us seems to be nothing but "Stoke we all over Newcastle and had far more of the game" etc...... Sorry but that's absolute shite! I grant that when you consider the relative values of each squad that on paper we should have played them off the park but we all know that football is not like that. Put it into the perspective of 11 men against 11 men on a pitch for 90-odd minutes and both sides were evenly matched. Yes, we could (and should) have played better than we did with the bunch of players we've got. But that doesn't not automatically mean that we played any worse than Stoke. I think your anti press meter has swung too far now. Yes they are always on our backs, but for good reason yesterday, we were outplayed and outfought bar one or two of our lads. I cant believe people on here are saying a draw against stoke is a decent result. Shows how far we have dropped. 4 years ago we were in the champions league, top 5 finishes 3 seasons running. We had a good squad and a good team, im sorry but im not just willing to accept that our players dont try very hard and we should be glad of a draw against lower league ooposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7273 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I prefer this to being "everyones second favourite club" under Bobby or Keegan Aye because at least if we ever win something we can throw it in their faces. When the Stoke fans started chanting "Alan Smith Is A Wanker" I just wanted him to score to shut the fuckers up! "Land of Giants" Pfffft Faye had Sidibi in his back pocket! I was chanting with them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21263 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No matter which paper you read or radio station you listen to today, their bile about us seems to be nothing but "Stoke we all over Newcastle and had far more of the game" etc...... Sorry but that's absolute shite! I grant that when you consider the relative values of each squad that on paper we should have played them off the park but we all know that football is not like that. Put it into the perspective of 11 men against 11 men on a pitch for 90-odd minutes and both sides were evenly matched. Yes, we could (and should) have played better than we did with the bunch of players we've got. But that doesn't not automatically mean that we played any worse than Stoke. I think your anti press meter has swung too far now. Yes they are always on our backs, but for good reason yesterday, we were outplayed and outfought bar one or two of our lads. I cant believe people on here are saying a draw against stoke is a decent result. Shows how far we have dropped. 4 years ago we were in the champions league, top 5 finishes 3 seasons running. We had a good squad and a good team, im sorry but im not just willing to accept that our players dont try very hard and we should be glad of a draw against lower league ooposition. With the current prediciment, the weather, the occasion, the way Stoke are buzzing and we are not, the way many big clubs (everton etc) went out, the HUGE potential of a banna skin, thats why it wasnt a BAD (I wouldnt say good) result and we are still in the hat (not agreat things after the riggeed result today!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No matter which paper you read or radio station you listen to today, their bile about us seems to be nothing but "Stoke we all over Newcastle and had far more of the game" etc...... Sorry but that's absolute shite! I grant that when you consider the relative values of each squad that on paper we should have played them off the park but we all know that football is not like that. Put it into the perspective of 11 men against 11 men on a pitch for 90-odd minutes and both sides were evenly matched. Yes, we could (and should) have played better than we did with the bunch of players we've got. But that doesn't not automatically mean that we played any worse than Stoke. I think your anti press meter has swung too far now. Yes they are always on our backs, but for good reason yesterday, we were outplayed and outfought bar one or two of our lads. I cant believe people on here are saying a draw against stoke is a decent result. Shows how far we have dropped. 4 years ago we were in the champions league, top 5 finishes 3 seasons running. We had a good squad and a good team, im sorry but im not just willing to accept that our players dont try very hard and we should be glad of a draw against lower league ooposition. It was a decent result because of how average we've been this season and in the last few seasons, especially away from home. Plus, Stoke are doing well. That's all people mean by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 performance at the Britannia Stadium must rank as one of the worst under the guidance of Sam Allardyce. sorry but that's bollocks. I agree, we've been far worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 No matter which paper you read or radio station you listen to today, their bile about us seems to be nothing but "Stoke we all over Newcastle and had far more of the game" etc...... Sorry but that's absolute shite! I grant that when you consider the relative values of each squad that on paper we should have played them off the park but we all know that football is not like that. Put it into the perspective of 11 men against 11 men on a pitch for 90-odd minutes and both sides were evenly matched. Yes, we could (and should) have played better than we did with the bunch of players we've got. But that doesn't not automatically mean that we played any worse than Stoke. They were all over us in the second half and should have scored 3 easily. And so should we... I'm not arguing that they weren't a match for us, but they weren't any better than us. Agree with Alex, the press are gutted that we didn't lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 No matter which paper you read or radio station you listen to today, their bile about us seems to be nothing but "Stoke we all over Newcastle and had far more of the game" etc...... Sorry but that's absolute shite! I grant that when you consider the relative values of each squad that on paper we should have played them off the park but we all know that football is not like that. Put it into the perspective of 11 men against 11 men on a pitch for 90-odd minutes and both sides were evenly matched. Yes, we could (and should) have played better than we did with the bunch of players we've got. But that doesn't not automatically mean that we played any worse than Stoke. I think your anti press meter has swung too far now. Yes they are always on our backs, but for good reason yesterday, we were outplayed and outfought bar one or two of our lads. I cant believe people on here are saying a draw against stoke is a decent result. Shows how far we have dropped. 4 years ago we were in the champions league, top 5 finishes 3 seasons running. We had a good squad and a good team, im sorry but im not just willing to accept that our players dont try very hard and we should be glad of a draw against lower league ooposition. It was a decent result because of how average we've been this season and in the last few seasons, especially away from home. Plus, Stoke are doing well. That's all people mean by it. I'm not accepting the performance as 'sufficient' - I want us to be better than that but the press are making out that they absolutely creamed us when they didn't. As for the "4 years ago we were in the champions league, etc.." comments well that's exactly that - it WAS 4 years ago. Same as saying 12 years ago we were favourites for the premiership or 53 years ago we were on the verge of winning our 3rd FA Cup in 5 years. It's history, it's gone and we need to stop living in the past. Stoke are a decent outfit who are being judged on the fact that they're in a division below us. As has been pointed out, they're in an awesome run of form, in a play-off position and actually only 13 places below us in the league. If the top division still had 24 clubs, they'd be in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21263 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 No matter which paper you read or radio station you listen to today, their bile about us seems to be nothing but "Stoke we all over Newcastle and had far more of the game" etc...... Sorry but that's absolute shite! I grant that when you consider the relative values of each squad that on paper we should have played them off the park but we all know that football is not like that. Put it into the perspective of 11 men against 11 men on a pitch for 90-odd minutes and both sides were evenly matched. Yes, we could (and should) have played better than we did with the bunch of players we've got. But that doesn't not automatically mean that we played any worse than Stoke. I think your anti press meter has swung too far now. Yes they are always on our backs, but for good reason yesterday, we were outplayed and outfought bar one or two of our lads. I cant believe people on here are saying a draw against stoke is a decent result. Shows how far we have dropped. 4 years ago we were in the champions league, top 5 finishes 3 seasons running. We had a good squad and a good team, im sorry but im not just willing to accept that our players dont try very hard and we should be glad of a draw against lower league ooposition. It was a decent result because of how average we've been this season and in the last few seasons, especially away from home. Plus, Stoke are doing well. That's all people mean by it. I'm not accepting the performance as 'sufficient' - I want us to be better than that but the press are making out that they absolutely creamed us when they didn't. As for the "4 years ago we were in the champions league, etc.." comments well that's exactly that - it WAS 4 years ago. Same as saying 12 years ago we were favourites for the premiership or 53 years ago we were on the verge of winning our 3rd FA Cup in 5 years. It's history, it's gone and we need to stop living in the past. Stoke are a decent outfit who are being judged on the fact that they're in a division below us. As has been pointed out, they're in an awesome run of form, in a play-off position and actually only 13 places below us in the league. If the top division still had 24 clubs, they'd be in it! Absolutley Spot On! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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