Craig 6700 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No matter which paper you read or radio station you listen to today, their bile about us seems to be nothing but "Stoke we all over Newcastle and had far more of the game" etc...... Sorry but that's absolute shite! I grant that when you consider the relative values of each squad that on paper we should have played them off the park but we all know that football is not like that. Put it into the perspective of 11 men against 11 men on a pitch for 90-odd minutes and both sides were evenly matched. Yes, we could (and should) have played better than we did with the bunch of players we've got. But that doesn't not automatically mean that we played any worse than Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4042 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No matter which paper you read or radio station you listen to today, their bile about us seems to be nothing but "Stoke we all over Newcastle and had far more of the game" etc...... Sorry but that's absolute shite! I grant that when you consider the relative values of each squad that on paper we should have played them off the park but we all know that football is not like that. Put it into the perspective of 11 men against 11 men on a pitch for 90-odd minutes and both sides were evenly matched. Yes, we could (and should) have played better than we did with the bunch of players we've got. But that doesn't not automatically mean that we played any worse than Stoke. They were all over us in the second half and should have scored 3 easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21251 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 The Express actually doesnt have a bad none biased view at all and all rather spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 What's annoying is you can tell that most elements of the press are gutted we didn't lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawan 0 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No matter which paper you read or radio station you listen to today, their bile about us seems to be nothing but "Stoke we all over Newcastle and had far more of the game" etc...... Sorry but that's absolute shite! I grant that when you consider the relative values of each squad that on paper we should have played them off the park but we all know that football is not like that. Put it into the perspective of 11 men against 11 men on a pitch for 90-odd minutes and both sides were evenly matched. Yes, we could (and should) have played better than we did with the bunch of players we've got. But that doesn't not automatically mean that we played any worse than Stoke. They were all over us in the second half and should have scored 3 easily. And a penalty, according to Garth Crooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21251 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No matter which paper you read or radio station you listen to today, their bile about us seems to be nothing but "Stoke we all over Newcastle and had far more of the game" etc...... Sorry but that's absolute shite! I grant that when you consider the relative values of each squad that on paper we should have played them off the park but we all know that football is not like that. Put it into the perspective of 11 men against 11 men on a pitch for 90-odd minutes and both sides were evenly matched. Yes, we could (and should) have played better than we did with the bunch of players we've got. But that doesn't not automatically mean that we played any worse than Stoke. They were all over us in the second half and should have scored 3 easily. And a penalty, according to Garth Crooks Yeh they show that in the Mail. Whats Taylor supposed to do? Run around with no arms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 It wasn't a pen. At least Mark Bright wanted us to win, being a Port Vale lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 .com's comments Moral defeat Stoke City 0 Newcastle 0 The doom-mongers didn't get the result they were hoping for but the performance at the Britannia Stadium must rank as one of the worst under the guidance of Sam Allardyce. Only the woeful displays at Derby, Wigan and Fulham could rival an inept showing in front of the Beeb's cameras as Newcastle stayed in the FA Cup by the skin of their teeth. The squad selection begged more questions about those not included than those in the 16 as messrs Milner, Emre and Beye were all missing. Milner was absent due to a heavy cold and Emre and Beye were officially missing due to ankle and hamstring injuries, respectively, but to see Kazenga LuaLua, Andy Carroll and David Edgar on the bench was surprising to say the least. LuaLua's last game was in the FA Youth Cup game against Shrewsbury and Carroll has been on loan at Preston but both were thrust into the action in an awful second half that should have seen us bow out of the competition. Our chances were few and far between with Viduka's snapshot, Owen's smothered attempt and Carroll's last gasp effort into the side netting, the nearest we came to breaching an inexperienced Championship defence. Nicky Butt had a couple of efforts that whistled over the bar but such was the inaccuracy of his distribution, it was difficult to know if they were just stray passes. Only Steven Taylor and Abdoulaye Faye came out of the game with any great credit for valiant displays at the back while summer signings Enrique and Rozehnal both look to be some way off adapting to English football. Captain Alan Smith was again treading water in a deep midfield role while Damien Duff scampered down the wing to no great effect in his third game back. The little and large combination up front of Viduka and Owen was again ineffective but service up to them was minimal to say the least. Charles N'Zogbia looked to be our main threat in his more advanced midfield role but often ran into trouble by trying to beat that extra man. While Stoke may have wasted their best opportunity to take our scalp by wasting some seemingly unmissable second half opportunities, the replay is by no means a foregone conclusion. Alex Ferguson was watching from the stands but he will be sleeping soundly this week knowing that his title challenge will not be threatened by the black and white shambles he saw. With players disappearing to Ghana, going on trial and picking up injuries and illnesses, January trips to Old Trafford and the Emirates look frightening prospects. Only a home game against Allardyce's old side Bolton seems to offer any respite. Any chance to alleviate any pressure was well and truly missed and Big Sam's cheery demeanour as he left the pitch was surely rueful rather than joyful. Full match report to follow. Team: Given, Rozehnal, Taylor, Faye, Jose Enrique, Duff (LuaLua 74), Smith, Butt, N'Zogbia, Viduka (Carroll 87), Owen. Subs n/u: Harper, Cacapa, Edgar. Booked: Butt (his tenth of the season meaning he will miss the replay, not his return to Old Trafford) Stoke: Simonsen, Wilkinson, Shawcross, Cort, Dickinson, Lawrence, Eustace (Pulis 90), Pugh, Cresswell, Sidibe (Parkin 65), Fuller (Pericard 90). Subs n/u: Hoult, Zakuani. Booked: Cresswell. Crowd: 22,861 Referee: Steve Bennett (Kent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21251 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I thought Duff had a good game but looked extremely frustrated as the game went on with Ronny Rosenthal continually wasting passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Do you reckon Allardyce putting the bairns on the bench is a bit like him putting Harper on against Celtic in the pre-season friendly? I.e. to send a message to the chairman & owner about the size of the squad / needing additions? Could have backfired as Lua Lua looked more capable of creating something during his cameo than the rest of the midfield did in the whole 90 minutes and Carroll nearly scored the winner at the death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 What's annoying is you can tell that most elements of the press are gutted we didn't lose. I'd say that makes the result rather satisfying tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 What's annoying is you can tell that most elements of the press are gutted we didn't lose. I'd say that makes the result rather satisfying tbh. Well, yes. Until the 4th round draw was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21251 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Aye, I was impressed with Lau Lau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 What's annoying is you can tell that most elements of the press are gutted we didn't lose. I'd say that makes the result rather satisfying tbh. Well, yes. Until the 4th round draw was made. I wonder if the press will be rooting for us should we make it through, after all Arsenal are a much bigger, successful and better club than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 The BBC describe the game as 'absorbing'. Somehow I doubt this would be the case had they not been daft enough to televise it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21251 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 The BBC describe the game as 'absorbing'. Somehow I doubt this would be the case had they not been daft enough to televise it. You sure they wont talking about the pitch? IE With the pissing down rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Aye, I was impressed with Lau Lau I'd start him in the replay, see how he does then try and ship him out on loan to a Championship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 What's annoying is you can tell that most elements of the press are gutted we didn't lose. I'd say that makes the result rather satisfying tbh. Well, yes. Until the 4th round draw was made. I wonder if the press will be rooting for us should we make it through, after all Arsenal are a much bigger, successful and better club than us. No point. Wenger's job isn't 'on the line'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Everyone Hates us. We dont care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I prefer this to being "everyones second favourite club" under Bobby or Keegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I prefer this to being "everyones second favourite club" under Bobby or Keegan Aye because at least if we ever win something we can throw it in their faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21251 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I prefer this to being "everyones second favourite club" under Bobby or Keegan Aye because at least if we ever win something we can throw it in their faces. When the Stoke fans started chanting "Alan Smith Is A Wanker" I just wanted him to score to shut the fuckers up! "Land of Giants" Pfffft Faye had Sidibi in his back pocket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I find .coms evaluation a bit harsh tbf. Some elements of truth but I reckon some perspective is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11042 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 performance at the Britannia Stadium must rank as one of the worst under the guidance of Sam Allardyce. sorry but that's bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21251 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 performance at the Britannia Stadium must rank as one of the worst under the guidance of Sam Allardyce. sorry but that's bollocks. Aye, I think the must of spent the whole match watching the fans with no tops on. We played well in the first half and ground it out in the second. We have been worse and I think we are now, slowly starting to get out of the dip. IMO anyways. If he can play Zog in midfield every week we will be better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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