Newcastle United vs. Manchester City

[tinofbeans 91]

i wouldn't want to manage this team.

 

round pegs. dodecahedrons to go in them.

 

be fair people we played fairly well, but again sam fucked up with his tactical decisions (the faye sub etc)....

[Noelie 103]

Better performence overall - Same dismal result.

You can't win if you can't score and there were enough chances and we should have been ahead at half-time.

Questionable starting line-up again, insists on Zoggy at left-back then ugly Sam moves him forward in desperation.

[RlCO 0]

Also,

 

The crowd is in the majority now silent, and I mean from the off - the emergence of a singing section has given everyone else the excuse to sit on their hands, especially the 'gallowgate end'.

 

The ref was pretty much irrelevent, sure the Faye challenge looked bad, but I don't think there was any contact and once again a player rolls 5 times to get a card, soft cunt.

 

The balloons were funny, but why didn't the ref stop the game? There were like 10 of them tied together in a big ball, at one point they actually blew into the ref!

Edited January 2, 2008 by RlCO

[Ketsbaia 0]

It's too easy to blame Allardyce.

 

Especially when he sets his team as he does, fails to motivate his players and makes such match winning substitutions as taking Faye off and leaving an utterly exhausted Butt and Milner on.

 

They are his players, it is his job to make it work - he can't.

 

Were you at the game?

[RlCO 0]

Amd we've used all three subs and Emre still can't help himself from acting like a little worky ticket risking a card.

[The Fish 11053]

Amd we've used all three subs and Emre still can't help himself from acting like a little worky ticket risking a card.

Love that phrase

[sammynb 3639]

by all accounts we did muster enough for a draw, but were unlucky with regards to referee decisions. I'm not "supporting the manager" blindly. I'm trying to swim against a tide of reactionary rubbish, people desperate for change irregardless of the inevitable instability and the extension of this situation where we waste season after season "rebuilding".

 

Sam Allardyce may yet prove to be the right man, but if he's not at least give him a fucking season. Souness, Gullit, Dalglish, Roeder all failed to impress, but all were given time. Now we have a manager who understands the modern game (off the pitch) and so to sack him would be unreasonable and quite short-sighted.

 

I understand the frustrations, but seriously, do you think;

 

a. anyone would want this poisoned chalice?

b. anyone could do a better job straight away?

c. you could tolerate six months of mediochrity

 

face it, we're not sacking him for a while yet.

 

managed that without calling anyone a name

 

But you're wrong David, read what everyone who saw the match has written, first half we looked ok, we had opportunities but didn't finish them. I'd disagree with some and say it was 50-50 first half but the score board was proof we were actually second best.

As others have said, the second half the team was shite. Forget the refereeing decisions they sometimes go our way and sometimes don't. It wasn't a send off regardless of what Allardyce will whine about, yes we could of possibly deserved a penalty but we were 0-2 behind at that stage. We don't have the fight we once had.

Remember that season when we finished fourth, the CL season when you knew if the team went behind a goal or a referee's decision went against us, the team would just galvanise and fight back. The current team couldn't fight their way out of a McDonalds!

 

Clueless isn't a name Dave, it's a state of mind

[RlCO 0]

Watchin FF now - as I thought, the Elano tackle on Faye - this boils my piss, a big strapping African has literally rolled over 5 times because he got a butt cheek in the face. Get up you fucking pansy.

[Tooj 17]

Also,

 

The crowd is in the majority now silent, and I mean from the off - the emergence of a singing section has given everyone else the excuse to sit on their hands, especially the 'gallowgate end'.

 

The ref was pretty much irrelevent, sure the Faye challenge looked bad, but I don't think there was any contact and once again a player rolls 5 times to get a card, soft cunt.

 

The balloons were funny, but why didn't the ref stop the game? There were like 10 of them tied together in a big ball, at one point they actually blew into the ref!

Now ey! I stand and sing you cheaky cunt.

[Matt 0]

Dave, every side Manchester City have travelled to since the opening day have 'got something' from them. Anyone who saw the game tonight will have seen that there definitely was something for the taking. They're a very good side on the ball and play it about nicely, but there are clear deficiencies when under pressure. On another day we could have had a couple by the time they scored but we looked very short on confidence up front (not just Martins).

 

I dont think expecting something from the game is excessive at all. It's wholly reasonable.

 

Disappointingly we ran out of steam after 70 minutes and never looked the same threat after Duff was understandably withdrawn. What I can't understand is the total doom and gloom from the game. We were far, far worse at Fulham yet the three points shut everyone up. Until we start staring a relegation battle in the face we have to look more to performance than points- for now at least.

[RlCO 0]

Emre's little legs not getting him back fast enough to stop the second. Someone please tell me what he brings to the team?

[RlCO 0]

Also,

 

The crowd is in the majority now silent, and I mean from the off - the emergence of a singing section has given everyone else the excuse to sit on their hands, especially the 'gallowgate end'.

 

The ref was pretty much irrelevent, sure the Faye challenge looked bad, but I don't think there was any contact and once again a player rolls 5 times to get a card, soft cunt.

 

The balloons were funny, but why didn't the ref stop the game? There were like 10 of them tied together in a big ball, at one point they actually blew into the ref!

Now ey! I stand and sing you cheaky cunt.

 

I thought I seen them pointing and staring at someone

[The Fish 11053]

Remember that season when we finished fourth, the CL season when you knew if the team went behind a goal or a referee's decision went against us, the team would just galvanise and fight back. The current team couldn't fight their way out of a McDonalds!

 

That was 5 years ago and we've fallen far far from that standard. We have had a couple of awful managers, but surely that teaches us that sacking a manager after a season doesn't mean we're going to get an improvement.

 

I saw fight at Bolton, I saw a team who were willing to play until their legs gave out. What is it about Newcastle players that brings the worst out of the commitment? Even under Robson and Keegan we had bad eggs, but these days we haven't the talent to make up for this petulance.

 

I don't know what the answer is, but I know what it's not.

[RlCO 0]

Remember that season when we finished fourth, the CL season when you knew if the team went behind a goal or a referee's decision went against us, the team would just galvanise and fight back. The current team couldn't fight their way out of a McDonalds!

 

That was 5 years ago and we've fallen far far from that standard. We have had a couple of awful managers, but surely that teaches us that sacking a manager after a season doesn't mean we're going to get an improvement.

 

I saw fight at Bolton, I saw a team who were willing to play until their legs gave out. What is it about Newcastle players that brings the worst out of the commitment? Even under Robson and Keegan we had bad eggs, but these days we haven't the talent to make up for this petulance.

 

I don't know what the answer is, but I know what it's not.

 

bling, bitches and ho's

[Jimbo 175]

Remember that season when we finished fourth, the CL season when you knew if the team went behind a goal or a referee's decision went against us, the team would just galvanise and fight back. The current team couldn't fight their way out of a McDonalds!

 

That was 5 years ago and we've fallen far far from that standard. We have had a couple of awful managers, but surely that teaches us that sacking a manager after a season doesn't mean we're going to get an improvement.

 

I saw fight at Bolton, I saw a team who were willing to play until their legs gave out. What is it about Newcastle players that brings the worst out of the commitment? Even under Robson and Keegan we had bad eggs, but these days we haven't the talent to make up for this petulance.

 

I don't know what the answer is, but I know what it's not.

 

 

Make that 3 awful managers.

[The Fish 11053]

Remember that season when we finished fourth, the CL season when you knew if the team went behind a goal or a referee's decision went against us, the team would just galvanise and fight back. The current team couldn't fight their way out of a McDonalds!

 

That was 5 years ago and we've fallen far far from that standard. We have had a couple of awful managers, but surely that teaches us that sacking a manager after a season doesn't mean we're going to get an improvement.

 

I saw fight at Bolton, I saw a team who were willing to play until their legs gave out. What is it about Newcastle players that brings the worst out of the commitment? Even under Robson and Keegan we had bad eggs, but these days we haven't the talent to make up for this petulance.

 

I don't know what the answer is, but I know what it's not.

 

 

Make that 3 awful managers.

so why not give Allardyce at least the same amount of time that Roeder and Souness had?

[Jimbo 175]

Remember that season when we finished fourth, the CL season when you knew if the team went behind a goal or a referee's decision went against us, the team would just galvanise and fight back. The current team couldn't fight their way out of a McDonalds!

 

That was 5 years ago and we've fallen far far from that standard. We have had a couple of awful managers, but surely that teaches us that sacking a manager after a season doesn't mean we're going to get an improvement.

 

I saw fight at Bolton, I saw a team who were willing to play until their legs gave out. What is it about Newcastle players that brings the worst out of the commitment? Even under Robson and Keegan we had bad eggs, but these days we haven't the talent to make up for this petulance.

 

I don't know what the answer is, but I know what it's not.

 

 

Make that 3 awful managers.

so why not give Allardyce at least the same amount of time that Roeder and Souness had?

 

And allow him to do as much damage to the club as those inept loons did ? No thanks. Continuing with Allardyce will only make the job of his successor harder, and some might argue that is dificult enough already.

[Matt 0]

I don't think Roeder damaged us at all, we just treaded midfield water. But we got rid of him at the right time, and that's hopefully what we'll do with Allardyce.

 

It would be nice to get a few results if not for points, but to get us through the January with speculation receding and at least give the chance for the board to decide whether to terminate his contract in the summer. We'd have time to think about the options available.

 

If we go all kneejerk and appoint Shearer I'd be over the bloody edge.

[The Fish 11053]

Do we have revolving doors on the managers office at SJP? I think if we don't we're missing a trick.

 

we could save money by selling the chair desk and filing cabinet on Ebay, it's not like he'll be around long enough to use em

[sammynb 3639]

It's too easy to blame Allardyce.

 

Especially when he sets his team as he does, fails to motivate his players and makes such match winning substitutions as taking Faye off and leaving an utterly exhausted Butt and Milner on.

 

They are his players, it is his job to make it work - he can't.

 

Were you at the game?

 

You read my email, so you tell me Skol?

Edited January 3, 2008 by sammynb

[Jimbo 175]

Do we have revolving doors on the managers office at SJP? I think if we don't we're missing a trick.

 

we could save money by selling the chair desk and filing cabinet on Ebay, it's not like he'll be around long enough to use em

 

 

Are you suggesting that we should have given Souness and Roeder more time ?

 

We don't sack too soon, we just appoint the wrong man.

[Matt 0]

Are you suggesting that we should have given Souness and Roeder more time ?

 

We don't sack too soon, we just appoint the wrong man.

 

We appointed the right man this time, but then our club changed hands and the financial situation changed considerably. We were set for a very tight few years and I think we went for a manager who could get us back on the road slowly- perhaps this is no longer the intention of the new ownership who may choose to put in considerable funds and expect some results to go with it.

[Jimbo 175]

Are you suggesting that we should have given Souness and Roeder more time ?

 

We don't sack too soon, we just appoint the wrong man.

 

We appointed the right man this time, but then our club changed hands and the financial situation changed considerably. We were set for a very tight few years and I think we went for a manager who could get us back on the road slowly- perhaps this is no longer the intention of the new ownership who may choose to put in considerable funds and expect some results to go with it.

 

 

If our current situation is evidence of getting it right, I'd hate to see what getting it wrong looks like !

[Matt 0]

Did I say that? Didn't think so.

[Tooj 17]

Are you suggesting that we should have given Souness and Roeder more time ?

 

We don't sack too soon, we just appoint the wrong man.

 

We appointed the right man this time, but then our club changed hands and the financial situation changed considerably. We were set for a very tight few years and I think we went for a manager who could get us back on the road slowly- perhaps this is no longer the intention of the new ownership who may choose to put in considerable funds and expect some results to go with it.

Matt stop bringing this common sense approach man, it's not right seeing such a thing, especially straight after a match.