Tom 14021 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 BBC Radio 1 has said it will stand by its ban on the word "faggot" from the Pogues' 1987 Christmas hit Fairytale of New York to avoid offence. The word, sung by the late Kirsty MacColl as she trades insults with Shane MacGowan, has been dubbed out. But MacColl's mother, Jean, called the ban "too ridiculous", while the Pogues said they found it "amusing". The BBC said: "We are playing an edited version because some members of the audience might find it offensive." 'Complete over-reaction' A Radio 1 spokeswoman said the station's management had met on Tuesday morning to discuss the issue. She said they "had made their decision" and would not be going back on it. But the ban does not apply across the BBC. Radio 2 said it would be playing the full version of the track. MacColl, who was killed by a speedboat off the coast of Mexico in 2000, brands Pogues frontman Shane MacGowan "you scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot" in the song, which reached number two when it was first released. Shane MacGowan The song is a duet between MacColl and Shane MacGowan She continues: "Happy Christmas your arse, I pray God it's our last." Another line, where MacGowan calls MacColl "an old slut on junk", has also been edited. Jean MacColl told BBC Radio 5 Live's Breakfast: "These are a couple of characters - not in the first flush of youth, I would have thought. "This is the way they spoke. Today we have a lot of a gratuitous vulgarity and whatever from people all over which I think is quite unnecessary. "They are what they are. These are characters and they speak like that." A spokesman for the Pogues, who first formed in 1982 and reunited in 2001 after a five-year break, said they "found it amusing that a song that has been one of the best-loved Christmas tunes should suddenly have been deemed offensive". Listeners have also been criticising the ban on the Radio 1 Newsbeat website. Denise Venn said it was "a complete over-reaction" and Simon from Southampton called it "political correctness gone mad". Dean in Southampton added: "I'm gay and it certainly doesn't offend me. "I find it more offensive that the BBC has tampered with this track which hopefully will be number one this Christmas." Clicky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Correct me if I'm wrong, but they didn't censor it last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7099 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Happy Christmas Your Arse © BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 find it slightly ironic kicking up a fuss about PC correctness on here like. Some of you lot are the most PC I've came across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I know it's a completely different context/meaning, but if the word is so offensive, what about the faggots they sell in supermarkets? These decisions often seem to be made on the behalf of people who don't really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Just ban the Pogues, they offend my eyes and ears every Christmas, talentless tramp tossers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7099 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 (edited) Just ban the Pogues, they offend my eyes and ears every Christmas, talentless tramp tossers. And that Macoll troll, she needs running over with a speedboat tbh. Edited December 18, 2007 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 How the fuck is it PC gone mad? "Fuck", "Shit", "Nigger", "Fag" and any other offensive words aren't allowed on pre-watershed radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 find it slightly ironic kicking up a fuss about PC correctness on here like. Some of you lot are the most PC I've came across. That's because you pigeon-hole anyone with a different view to you as a 'PC do-gooder'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22667 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 find it slightly ironic kicking up a fuss about PC correctness on here like. Some of you lot are the most PC I've came across. That's because you pigeon-hole anyone with a different view to you as a 'PC do-gooder'. ....who've clearly been brainwashed by fancy dan lecturers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15873 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 So they've edited the "slut" line too, but the "faggot" one is the one that gets the headlines. How tedious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15873 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7150693.stm Well that's a relief. Now we can concentrate on removing references to Christmas from Band Aid for fear it'll offend the non-believers among the starving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15873 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Oh and Peter Tatchell is a wanker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 find it slightly ironic kicking up a fuss about PC correctness on here like. Some of you lot are the most PC I've came across. That's because you pigeon-hole anyone with a different view to you as a 'PC do-gooder'. ....who've clearly been brainwashed by fancy dan lecturers hey, you're both right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Oh and Peter Tatchell is a wanker. and he has a teddy bear called "Allah is a cunt" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Oh and Peter Tatchell is a wanker. Nah, I bet he gets enough cock never to need to, being a celebrity an all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Radio 1 have caved in and will now play this shitheap of a record in all its annoying glory. Tossers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Radio 1 have caved in and will now play this shitheap of a record in all its annoying glory. Tossers. Will BBC1 'cave' and show My Beautiful Laundrette in the middle of the afternoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 So they've edited the "slut" line too, but the "faggot" one is the one that gets the headlines. How tedious. SHUT UP YOU FAG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Oh and Peter Tatchell is a wanker. He normally has a point though and he does on this occasion. Still a twat like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Radio 1 have caved in and will now play this shitheap of a record in all its annoying glory. Tossers. Will BBC1 'cave' and show My Beautiful Laundrette in the middle of the afternoon? ...right at the birth of the British new wave that was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Radio 1 have caved in and will now play this shitheap of a record in all its annoying glory. Tossers. Will BBC1 'cave' and show My Beautiful Laundrette in the middle of the afternoon? ...right at the birth of the British new wave that was... You sure? More the tail end, Shirley. A Taste of Honey, This Sporting Life, Hard Days Night, Kes etc. led the way. Trying to think what's followed My Beautiful Laundrette. Queer as folk and East is East? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 (edited) Radio 1 have caved in and will now play this shitheap of a record in all its annoying glory. Tossers. Will BBC1 'cave' and show My Beautiful Laundrette in the middle of the afternoon? ...right at the birth of the British new wave that was... You sure? More the tail end, Shirley. A Taste of Honey, This Sporting Life, Hard Days Night, Kes etc. led the way. Trying to think what's followed My Beautiful Laundrette. Queer as folk and East is East? ...the new new wave. When half our producers and dir moved to Hollywood. Films by Loach, Leigh, Jarman and Terence Davies were doing the rounds with good receptions in Europe etc... Edited December 19, 2007 by Parky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 (edited) Radio 1 have caved in and will now play this shitheap of a record in all its annoying glory. Tossers. Will BBC1 'cave' and show My Beautiful Laundrette in the middle of the afternoon? ...right at the birth of the British new wave that was... You sure? More the tail end, Shirley. A Taste of Honey, This Sporting Life, Hard Days Night, Kes etc. led the way. Trying to think what's followed My Beautiful Laundrette. Queer as folk and East is East? ...the new new wave. When half our producers and dir moved to Hollywood. Films by Loach, Leigh, Jarman and Terence Davies were doing the rounds with good receptions in Europe etc... Well if that's your definition. I always thought the likes of Lindsay Anderson and Richard Lester (who also went to the US) were the pioneers of the British New Wave. EDIT: I missed the additional 'new' I wonder when the new new new wave is due. Sick of these Romanians hogging all the limelight. Edited December 19, 2007 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 (edited) Radio 1 have caved in and will now play this shitheap of a record in all its annoying glory. Tossers. Will BBC1 'cave' and show My Beautiful Laundrette in the middle of the afternoon? ...right at the birth of the British new wave that was... You sure? More the tail end, Shirley. A Taste of Honey, This Sporting Life, Hard Days Night, Kes etc. led the way. Trying to think what's followed My Beautiful Laundrette. Queer as folk and East is East? ...the new new wave. When half our producers and dir moved to Hollywood. Films by Loach, Leigh, Jarman and Terence Davies were doing the rounds with good receptions in Europe etc... Well if that's your definition. I always thought the likes of Lindsay Anderson and Richard Lester (who also went to the US) were the pioneers of the British New Wave. EDIT: I missed the additional 'new' I wonder when the new new new wave is due. Sick of these Romanians hogging all the limelight. What a cracking smilie that is. There is a bit of a wave developing in Germany, Poland, Czech at the moment....Not sure about England. Was at an art exhibition the other night where my mate was showing and had the misfortune to be talking to some people from London (Chelsea college of art and other 'types'). Within minutes they were trying to 'high brow' me about culture and such...and how Viggo Mortensen was eating in a 'Russian cafe' near their house durign filming of EP's and thier (learnt off by heart from the Guardian) analysis of Cronenberg (immediately grating the delicate palate of my artistic bullshit speak detecting inner ear). One painted dwarf (a small woman) was rather shrill (as she repeatedly fingered the gold buttons on my old YSL jacket I wear to 'throw people' at such gigs) saying repeatedly "You know even these buttons are political". There was other 'chatter' about Warhol and low budget films and the BFC and more contracted interactions about poetry and suchlike... You see whenever I meet creatives from the old country I always walk away wishing rolling failure, death and destruction on the fucking lot of them. Edited December 19, 2007 by Parky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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