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Just watched it and gee whiz it is pretty good. I was engrossed with the cattle gun he uses...

 

Plus i swear he was in that room at the end when the sheriff walked in...

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The bit in the petrol station when hes flipping the coin? It just wouldnt happen! Similar to all the Tarantino films that are so overrated. I dont enjoy sitting for 20 mins watching 2 people talking. I can do that on the bus. I want to be kept amused by a film

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The bit in the petrol station when hes flipping the coin? It just wouldnt happen! Similar to all the Tarantino films that are so overrated. I dont enjoy sitting for 20 mins watching 2 people talking. I can do that on the bus. I want to be kept amused by a film

Some people like good dialogue in a film though. Crazy, I know.

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The bit in the petrol station when hes flipping the coin? It just wouldnt happen! Similar to all the Tarantino films that are so overrated. I dont enjoy sitting for 20 mins watching 2 people talking. I can do that on the bus. I want to be kept amused by a film

 

It's like when parents stick a Shrek DVD on to keep the kids quiet.

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The bit in the petrol station when hes flipping the coin? It just wouldnt happen! Similar to all the Tarantino films that are so overrated. I dont enjoy sitting for 20 mins watching 2 people talking. I can do that on the bus. I want to be kept amused by a film

Some people like good dialogue in a film though. Crazy, I know.

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Venice launch for Coens' comedy

 

Burn After Reading, the Coen brothers' black comedy starring Brad Pitt and George Clooney, will launch the Venice Film Festival on 27 August.

 

The film, about a CIA official whose memoirs fall into the hands of two gym employees, is their first since the Oscar-winning No Country For Old Men.

 

Recent Oscar-winner Tilda Swinton also appears in the film, alongside Frances McDormand and John Malkovich.

 

Pitt was named best actor at Venice last year for his role in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.

 

Clooney previously worked with Joel and Ethan Coen on the offbeat road movie O Brother, Where Art Thou? and screwball comedy Intolerable Cruelty.

 

Burn After Reading, the Coen brothers' 13th feature, is scheduled for release in the UK and the US in September.

 

It is produced by Tim Bevan and Eric Fellner, of British film company Working Title.

 

The 65th Venice Film Festival will be held from 27 August to 6 September 2008.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7372790.stm

 

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The bit in the petrol station when hes flipping the coin? It just wouldnt happen! Similar to all the Tarantino films that are so overrated. I dont enjoy sitting for 20 mins watching 2 people talking. I can do that on the bus. I want to be kept amused by a film

 

That scene wasn't about talking.

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The bit in the petrol station when hes flipping the coin? It just wouldnt happen! Similar to all the Tarantino films that are so overrated. I dont enjoy sitting for 20 mins watching 2 people talking. I can do that on the bus. I want to be kept amused by a film

 

That scene wasn't about talking.

 

 

It wasnt about a lot of things, entertainment mainly!

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who ever said cinema is meant to be exclusively entertaining?

 

my problem with this film is how shallow it is. there are no characters, only concepts that exist to propel the flimsy and trite narrative along a path that neither evokes or suggets. so this serial killer guy? why is he doing this. what are his motivations. i didn't believe in him neither did i feel that his role had any nuances or meaning that could allow such a stylistic choice - auteurs the Coen Brothers are certainly not.

 

i also don't believe in the moral code of the film either, i.e llyelwn gets whats coming to him because he doesn't give the Mexican guy water.

 

the pacing was horrible. there were these wide, open shots of the desert that served no purpose to constructing the film's themes. i have no problem with beautiful, lingering cinematography but if you choose to use this cinematic style it must under pin the thematic and / or philisophical structure of the film. which beyond obvious scene setting. it didn't.

 

guh!

 

i just don't like it at all.

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who ever said cinema is meant to be exclusively entertaining?

 

my problem with this film is how shallow it is. there are no characters, only concepts that exist to propel the flimsy and trite narrative along a path that neither evokes or suggets. so this serial killer guy? why is he doing this. what are his motivations. i didn't believe in him neither did i feel that his role had any nuances or meaning that could allow such a stylistic choice - auteurs the Coen Brothers are certainly not.

 

i also don't believe in the moral code of the film either, i.e llyelwn gets whats coming to him because he doesn't give the Mexican guy water.

 

the pacing was horrible. there were these wide, open shots of the desert that served no purpose to constructing the film's themes. i have no problem with beautiful, lingering cinematography but if you choose to use this cinematic style it must under pin the thematic and / or philisophical structure of the film. which beyond obvious scene setting. it didn't.

 

guh!

 

i just don't like it at all.

 

The 'Serial Killer' was doing it for the millions of dollars, wasn't he? Like everyone except the cops.

 

The only character i felt I was supposed to empathise with was Tommy Lee Jones, as the titular old man who's astonished at the fucked up things going on in the world today. And I did.

 

I don't remember any particularly lingering shots outside of scene setting either.

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It's quite good to hear someone putting forward a good argument as to why they didn't like something that has been almost universally praised though. I.e. I think sloopjohn is being genuine and not just trying to be contrary. Film Studies is guarenteed to fuck up your enjoyment of cinema however. For a few years anyway.

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It's quite good to hear someone putting forward a good argument as to why they didn't like something that has been almost universally praised though. I.e. I think sloopjohn is being genuine and not just trying to be contrary. Film Studies is guarenteed to fuck up your enjoyment of cinema however. For a few years anyway.

 

Definitely

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who ever said cinema is meant to be exclusively entertaining?

 

my problem with this film is how shallow it is. there are no characters, only concepts that exist to propel the flimsy and trite narrative along a path that neither evokes or suggets. so this serial killer guy? why is he doing this. what are his motivations. i didn't believe in him neither did i feel that his role had any nuances or meaning that could allow such a stylistic choice - auteurs the Coen Brothers are certainly not.

 

i also don't believe in the moral code of the film either, i.e llyelwn gets whats coming to him because he doesn't give the Mexican guy water.

 

the pacing was horrible. there were these wide, open shots of the desert that served no purpose to constructing the film's themes. i have no problem with beautiful, lingering cinematography but if you choose to use this cinematic style it must under pin the thematic and / or philisophical structure of the film. which beyond obvious scene setting. it didn't.

 

guh!

 

i just don't like it at all.

 

The 'trite narrative' was a one of the best bits of American fiction in 2004/05.

 

This is not just a 'serial killer guy' he is an embodiment - beyond simple icons he is almost karmic in his tight soul-less emotions, the desert and the emptiness is the filmic echo of this..

 

Like the journey and drive of the American Westerns of the 70's and 80's, the search for meaning/code ends in the mirroring of a vast emptiness and godlessness and there is so much of that in this.

 

Clearly one of the best films I've had the pleasure of engaging with in the last decade.

 

cheers,

 

Parky.

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Did I miss something because I thought Chigurh was a hit man rather than just a psycho (although he clearly was happy murdering anyone that he come accros) and was simply set on a path to get the money.

 

My only problem with the film was how low key the ending was. I don't necessarily need some action packed payoff but what was given just wasn't satisfying. That said I think I will appreciate it more on further viewings when I know what to expect.

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but the serial killer killed the people who were paying him!

 

you can't have a characters in a classically narrated film, or a film that portains to classical narration, that are purely allegorical. those aren't characters. and it sucks the soul out of the movie.

 

and in terms of the cinematography reflecting moral and spiritual 'emptiness' - that's an incredibly superficial and basic level for the film to be working on aesthetically.

 

also did anyone here actually understand the Tommy Lee Jones voice overs?

 

anyway enough. the film had some brilliant moments but it'll be years before the saliva that has been lathered all over this film has dried up. and that saddens me.

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