pertoon 0 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 [quote name='JawD' Thing is mind, what the crowd is getting on their back, all they have to do is roll up their sleeves (so to speak) and get stuck in. Its a good way to get the crowd back behind you. If you lie down and take it, it gets worse. Agree simple as : all theyve got to do is put some effort in it doesnt matter if we loose so long as theve tried thier best. To expect us to come away meekly applauding when they have been useless is to treat us as muppets. As for not getting behind the team every game ive been to the fans are behind the team at the start of the game all theyve got to do is what they are paid VERY large ammounts of money for. Is that too much to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicklee Sausage Roll 0 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 (edited) Right sentiment, wrong person. As far as we're concerned, this is the right sentiment at the right time but coming from the wrong player. Copying bastards. Edited December 1, 2007 by Sicklee Sausage Roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 He's spot on imo. I don't enjoy going to the match as much as I used to. I used to just enjoy going just to be at the match, and if we lost I still sort of enjoyed having been at the match. But losing games these days is fucking embarrassing because there is a massive portion of the crowd that think that we can't get beaten by ANYONE at home, so as soon as we're on the end of a bad result, or we go a goal down, they're booing, or there's the aggressive atmosphere if someone misplaces a pass or whatever. Jesus, we don't even have to be losing! Get to half time and it's still 0-0 and you can bank on there being at least some booing. It's a weird place to be as a fan, so it can't be much fun if you're a player either. And before anyone trots it out, the "they're paid enough to deal with it" argument doesn't hold water. They're paid shitloads, but an atmosphere like that is not conducive to ANYONE doing well, or turning things around in situations of adversity. Their bank balance is irrelevant. I'm not excusing anyone that isn't pulling their weight or anything like that btw. EDIT! Meant to add that a large part of the reason that I don't enjoy going to the match as much is because I don't feel a great affinity with a large portion of the crowd, before I went on to say about the booing etc. Totally agree. I hate going ot the match at times, as the atmosphere is just horrible and embarassing to witness and i just don't want to be there, and then you think you're actually paying a fortune for it! Like players have said the atmosphere is poisonous/venomous, that's the perfect way to describe it and its really awful having to sit there and be part of it. Whatever peoples opinions are on whether players should put up with it, or that fans have the right to do what they like, the bottom line is, this atmosphere makes the team play worse plus helps the opposition and it will continue to do so, so how any of the fans thinks its a good thing to do is beyond me. And like you say you don't feel an affinity with these people anymore, there's hardly anyone in there actually supporting the team alot of the time, too busy booing, shouting abuse, moaning and complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6919 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 The players probably all think we are twats - in private! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 The players probably all think we are twats - in private! Exactly. And why would the players want to give any extra effort for people who treat them like dirt? If the fans support the players, the latter will be far more inclined to put their balls on the line, rather than be apathetic at best. I know that if I'm doing something for someone I really like, a friend, I will stay up all night if I have to, whereas if I'm at a job I don't particularly feel valued in, it's going to be extremely hard for me to get motivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4077 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 It has been said but I completely understand the booing. We have been watching absolute shite for so long now we are sick of watching pricks turn up do bollocks all and drive around in mazeratti's (sp). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 It has been said but I completely understand the booing. We have been watching absolute shite for so long now we are sick of watching pricks turn up do bollocks all and drive around in mazeratti's (sp). How long ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RlCO 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 It was totally spot on. The fact that all people can do in response is attack the player or piss on about the price of a ticket makes it doubely true. I thought today was the perfect response from the proper (away) fans, and you saw the result s on the pitch (forgetting the actual result). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Big thread on NO last week about the booing and chanting, and clapping Crouch, at the Liverpool game. I can't have a look as I'm banned !! but I don't think booing at players during a game is ever justified, and there you have it from Barton how it can affect them. I've never done it, I just support NUFC, thats all there is to it. I don't like the comment about "the Keegan era is over", because they have to accept that is what we want again, everybody does. They also have to accept that for people like me our patience stretches back decades not just the last couple of years. I think he's spot on with the comment about the Keegan era. Some of our supporters were spoilt by it. It was a golden period, my happiest years as a Newcastle fan, but its gone. The facts are that we're not going to play that type of football again (I don't think anyone is), we're not going to see that sort of excitement level for a while (if ever) and we're not going to roll teams over scoring five, six, seven every week. people like me have seen far worse than this. It's those who started supporting the club during the Keegan era who have expected to watch a good side and are now stamping their feet like bairns because its not so good as that now and they aren't getting their own way. So yes, I agree with this point you are making. However, that doesn't make it right to boo. They should start actually supporting the club ie the players during games on the pitch instead of chanting the rubbish they were last week. By all means, criticise later, stand outside the ground chanting "sack the board", "Allardyce for England", whatever they like, but during games ? No. But they DO have to accept that for some people, patience is not on the agenda anymore. While I want to defend Barton - being a Newcastle player - if he wants to spout off like this, he also has to accept that we have a right to ask him to do his talking on the pitch too, up his game, or bugger off. Another thing is, I despise players who spout off in the press when they are not performing on the pitch anyway, many people I know feel the same, and he may be advised to watch his step criticising fans while he plays shite or someone may come along and stab him in the eye with a fag or something.......... If you want to talk to the press, do it when you are winning. Me too. The players probably all think we are twats - in private! Exactly. And why would the players want to give any extra effort for people who treat them like dirt? If the fans support the players, the latter will be far more inclined to put their balls on the line, rather than be apathetic at best. I know that if I'm doing something for someone I really like, a friend, I will stay up all night if I have to, whereas if I'm at a job I don't particularly feel valued in, it's going to be extremely hard for me to get motivated. Hardly the sort of situation that is likely to help us attract players in January either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4077 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 It has been said but I completely understand the booing. We have been watching absolute shite for so long now we are sick of watching pricks turn up do bollocks all and drive around in mazeratti's (sp). How long ? Apart from a brief hiatus under SBR 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 897 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Barton is the wrong person to be saying this. This guy seems to have all the answers and he's always happy to run at the mouth when the press is around. Maybe if he shut his mouth and worked on his finishing he wouldn't have to be worrying about a vicious atmosphere. As for the booing, I will be the first to say that a football club is for the fans. And those fans who spend their hard-earned money to show up and cheer on their team, who have supported for years, decades, lifetimes, have only one way to immediately express their discontent. They won't sit around and write letters to True Faith, will they now? No, they'll boo, and more power to them. I'm under no delusion that we should be finishing in the top four or that we have a God-given right to beat teams at home. But there is no excuse for the shower of shite that our fans have been subjected to in the last two home games and I do believe we deserve better. We beat Liverpool at home last year with arguably a worse side and a worse manager, and there is no reason why we couldn't have done the same again. Or why we couldn't have drawn. Or why we couldn't have lost with some dignity. No, if the fans have to watch their beloved team getting turned over week after week I think there's only one thing they should be giving the players - and let me tell you, it ain't applause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47084 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Barton is the wrong person to be saying this. This guy seems to have all the answers and he's always happy to run at the mouth when the press is around. Maybe if he shut his mouth and worked on his finishing he wouldn't have to be worrying about a vicious atmosphere. As for the booing, I will be the first to say that a football club is for the fans. And those fans who spend their hard-earned money to show up and cheer on their team, who have supported for years, decades, lifetimes, have only one way to immediately express their discontent. They won't sit around and write letters to True Faith, will they now? No, they'll boo, and more power to them. I'm under no delusion that we should be finishing in the top four or that we have a God-given right to beat teams at home. But there is no excuse for the shower of shite that our fans have been subjected to in the last two home games and I do believe we deserve better. We beat Liverpool at home last year with arguably a worse side and a worse manager, and there is no reason why we couldn't have done the same again. Or why we couldn't have drawn. Or why we couldn't have lost with some dignity. No, if the fans have to watch their beloved team getting turned over week after week I think there's only one thing they should be giving the players - and let me tell you, it ain't applause. I'm glad you don't go to the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 It has been said but I completely understand the booing. We have been watching absolute shite for so long now we are sick of watching pricks turn up do bollocks all and drive around in mazeratti's (sp). How long ? Apart from a brief hiatus under SBR 10 years. Oh, I don't know. Pre-1992 even being in the top league at all was considered a success. Thats why crowds were under 20000 for long periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Right sentiment, wrong person. Spot on. He's right, but it's a bit rich coming from him seeing as he's one of the players who so far has been very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackers 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Barton is the wrong person to be saying this. This guy seems to have all the answers and he's always happy to run at the mouth when the press is around. Maybe if he shut his mouth and worked on his finishing he wouldn't have to be worrying about a vicious atmosphere. As for the booing, I will be the first to say that a football club is for the fans. And those fans who spend their hard-earned money to show up and cheer on their team, who have supported for years, decades, lifetimes, have only one way to immediately express their discontent. They won't sit around and write letters to True Faith, will they now? No, they'll boo, and more power to them. I'm under no delusion that we should be finishing in the top four or that we have a God-given right to beat teams at home. But there is no excuse for the shower of shite that our fans have been subjected to in the last two home games and I do believe we deserve better. We beat Liverpool at home last year with arguably a worse side and a worse manager, and there is no reason why we couldn't have done the same again. Or why we couldn't have drawn. Or why we couldn't have lost with some dignity. No, if the fans have to watch their beloved team getting turned over week after week I think there's only one thing they should be giving the players - and let me tell you, it ain't applause. he is probably the only one with the balls to say it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qscqscqsc 0 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 he is on the gabby logan talk in tonight. 11.20 beeb1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22524 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 barton should keep his mouth shut until he's put in at least one decent performance for us. then he might have half a leg to stand on. cretin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyshinton 59 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 barton should keep his mouth shut until he's put in at least one decent performance for us. then he might have half a leg to stand on. cretin Wonder what the prick is going to have to say if he gets time? Should we stand by him. Fuck Him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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