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at the school has just told me that he has a good friend at the Club and rumour has it that Big Sam has lost the dressing room already.....Lollipop men don't lie, so it must be true ;)

 

Judging by the performance on Saturday, especially the way the players trudged out of the tunnel for the second half, that is plain for all to see, and regardless of 13 matches or not, if you've lost the dressing room you're a deadman walking.

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I thought this was an advocation of bringing back Ron Atkinson. ;)

 

Wouldn't mind him tbf, or Graham Taylor.

 

Anyway, I don't buy all this lost the dressing room stuff. You might antagonise a couple of influential players, but there's no reason you can't make examples of them and use the situation to gain the respect of the squad. Whether it's by making some sort of concilliation to show you aren't a stubborn twat when you're doing everything wrong, or putting your foot down and getting rid of bad apples who refuse to go in the right direction with you.

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I thought this was an advocation of bringing back Ron Atkinson. ;)

 

Wouldn't mind him tbf, or Graham Taylor.

 

Anyway, I don't buy all this lost the dressing room stuff. You might antagonise a couple of influential players, but there's no reason you can't make examples of them and use the situation to gain the respect of the squad. Whether it's by making some sort of concilliation to show you aren't a stubborn twat when you're doing everything wrong, or putting your foot down and getting rid of bad apples who refuse to go in the right direction with you.

 

AKA the Souness method.

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I thought this was an advocation of bringing back Ron Atkinson. ;)

 

Wouldn't mind him tbf, or Graham Taylor.

 

Anyway, I don't buy all this lost the dressing room stuff. You might antagonise a couple of influential players, but there's no reason you can't make examples of them and use the situation to gain the respect of the squad. Whether it's by making some sort of concilliation to show you aren't a stubborn twat when you're doing everything wrong, or putting your foot down and getting rid of bad apples who refuse to go in the right direction with you.

 

AKA the Souness method.

 

The only method he knew. You need to be able to do both, and know when they're required.

 

This is why I was asking about the captaincy in another thread. Whoever it is, they should be making the case for the manager to the players as well as convincing the manager when the players aren't going to go with him on something.

 

I don't know if it's old fashioned, but I think a captain like Roy Keane made a world of difference in telling other players when their attitude was wrong. With a strong captain willing to tell both players and management when one is being let down by the other you can get through changing room divisions.

 

If Allardyce doesn't have someone on the playing staff with that kind of sway though, we're screwed.

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I don't know if it's old fashioned, but I think a captain like Roy Keane made a world of difference in telling other players when their attitude was wrong. With a strong captain willing to tell both players and management when one is being let down by the other you can get through changing room divisions.

Makes sense. I presume Gary Speed fulfilled that kind of role for Allardyce at Bolton.

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I don't know if it's old fashioned, but I think a captain like Roy Keane made a world of difference in telling other players when their attitude was wrong. With a strong captain willing to tell both players and management when one is being let down by the other you can get through changing room divisions.

Makes sense. I presume Gary Speed fulfilled that kind of role for Allardyce at Bolton.

 

January target? Half the squad were here when he was.

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We aren't playing tomorrow :birthday:

 

If anyone can lose a game we aren't playing, it's Allardyce. B)

 

I'd be happy enough with Shearer in charge and Keegan as a coach or vice versa (though I'd expect the former), I'd wonder how much Allardyce would be walking away with though.

 

It would placate the plastic fans, and even if the worst comes to the worst, shut them up about the saviour.

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