Lippi and Jol turn down Birmingham

[Scottish Mag 3]

Former Tottenham boss Martin Jol has rejected an approach from Birmingham to discuss the vacant manager's job at St Andrews.

 

The club are currently hunting for a replacement for Steve Bruce who left Blues on Monday to join Wigan.

 

"We did speak to Martin over the weekend," said City's plc chairman David Sullivan.

 

"Martin thanked us for our interest but said it was too early for him to consider coming back to football."

 

Jol was sacked from his position at Spurs in October after three years at White Hart Lane.

 

The Dutchman was replaced in controversial fashion by former Seville coach Juande Ramos, who was courted by Spurs whilst Jol was still in charge.

 

Meanwhile, Sullivan, whose club received £3m in compensation from Wigan for the loss of Bruce, said the search would continue for a new manager of a similar calibre to Jol.

 

"Martin is the type of coach we are looking at - someone with a pedigree that will excite supporters," he said.

 

Sullivan added: "The usual suspects will be on everyone's lips but this could be a fresh start for Birmingham.

 

"We are looking at candidates of a certain level. It is difficult to try to get someone in who the dressing room will respect.

 

"Do you take a chance on an unproven coach at this level with a group of young players who will need guidance and will be looking for inspiration?

 

"Or do you go for a more experienced voice, someone respected in the world of football?"

Edited November 21, 2007 by Scottish Mag

[sammynb 3640]

Tipped to be top of the list as the new Australia manager.

Thank fuck he can't transfer Jenas into the team!

[Dr Gloom 22524]

he should be able to get a bigger club than the blue noses

[Guest stevieintoon]

Spurs aren't that much bigger than Birmingham City in my view.

[khay 10]

Spurs aren't that much bigger than Birmingham City in my view.

 

 

Put you're glasses on then.

[sammynb 3640]

Spurs aren't that much bigger than Birmingham City in my view.

 

 

Put you're glasses on then.

 

What has four eyes and can't see?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mississippi

[ewerk 31592]

Spurs aren't that much bigger than Birmingham City in my view.

 

Clearly blinded by your hatred.

[Guest alex]

Pointless debate anyway. Spurs are better, more successful and pretty much always have been.

[Dr Gloom 22524]

Spurs aren't that much bigger than Birmingham City in my view.

 

don't be silly

[Guest stevieintoon]

Spurs aren't that much bigger than Birmingham City in my view.

 

don't be silly

Both have small grounds they can't fill, at least Birmingham know they're nobodies though that's the difference.

[ewerk 31592]

Spurs aren't that much bigger than Birmingham City in my view.

 

don't be silly

Both have small grounds they can't fill, at least Birmingham know they're nobodies though that's the difference.

 

Spurs can't fill their ground? News to me, I was under the impression they had one of the highest attendance/capacity rates in the league.

[ewerk 31592]

Spurs aren't that much bigger than Birmingham City in my view.

 

don't be silly

Both have small grounds they can't fill, at least Birmingham know they're nobodies though that's the difference.

 

Spurs can't fill their ground? News to me, I was under the impression they had one of the highest attendance/capacity rates in the league.

 

Yup I was right.

 

http://www.soccer-stats.com/divisions/atte...o=1&asid=06

[Guest stevieintoon]

Spurs aren't that much bigger than Birmingham City in my view.

 

don't be silly

Both have small grounds they can't fill, at least Birmingham know they're nobodies though that's the difference.

 

Spurs can't fill their ground? News to me, I was under the impression they had one of the highest attendance/capacity rates in the league.

 

Yup I was right.

 

http://www.soccer-stats.com/divisions/atte...o=1&asid=06

Average gate 35,000, the get many 34,000 gates too, and they couldnt even sell out their league cup semi with Arsenal, with tickets on general sale the day of the game. As I said mickey mouse club.

 

Good piece written about it here:

 

 

Tottenham fail to sell out North London derby

 

In the days of Jimmy Greaves the North London derby was one of the biggest fixtures on the calendar. Since 1970 alone there have been 7 gates in the North London derby of over 50,000, prior to that in Tottenham’s double winning season of 1960/1961 saw a massive 65,962 see a 4-2 home win, while 72,164 saw the fixture at Highbury in one early fifties game.

 

For a lot of Arsenal fans the North London derby is still up there as the highlight of the season. With the influx of new fans since the SKY boom it is fair to say fixtures against Manchester United and Chelsea are as important or if not more so than games against Spurs.

 

However the same can be said of how Spurs view the fixture, it is THE game of any season. As much as Tottenham fans hold the club in high esteem, the club have only managed to come in the top five once during this period. It’s fair to say they are viewed as a perennial mid-table club, who have more money than a lot of their counter parts but can’t seem to get it right. They have a good young squad, Martin Jol has give the masses hope for the future certainly, they’ve even began to sell out their little 36,000 capacity stadium on a regular basis something which was far from evident through-out the 1990’s.

 

There was a claim recently Tottenham had a season ticket waiting list of 30,000, a quick phone call to the ticket office reveals tickets are actually available for next season.

 

Tottenham’s last silverware was the League Cup in 1999 when an Allan Nielsen goal gave them a 1-0 win over Leicester City at Wembley. Like a lot of clubs who haven’t had a great deal of success like Everton, Newcastle United, West Ham United and Aston Villa, there’s a great deal of hunger for success. Or is there?

 

Surely this seasons League Cup is their best chance in years of winning some silverware. A semi final at home, surely the biggest fixture for Spurs fans in recent seasons, but not only that, a fixture against the bitter enemy, often described as the “Woolwich refugees”, surely 100,000 would want to attend such a fixture.

 

I think it’s fair to say given the nature of the tie, one step from the final the ticketing demands of Liverpool v Everton, Newcastle v Sunderland, Manchester United v Manchester City or Rangers v Celtic, would surely reach in to six figures. Not at White Hart Lane. The self proclaimed best fans in London failed to sell out their biggest game in years. On advice of the police, the ticket office stopped selling at 12pm yesterday and 800 tickets remained unsold.

 

You could argue that ticket prices are to blame, some of the seats unsold cost as much as £71, you could argue Arsenal use an under strength team in the Carling Cup, you could even argue, that Tottenham only had 12 days to sell the tickets. All of these are pathetic arguments, the fact remains the club couldn’t sell out their biggest game in years against their bitter local rivals, with tickets on general sale on the day of the game. If Tottenham had a ground the size of Arsenal, Manchester United or even Newcastle United, virtually half the ground would remain empty. Last night proved their little White Hart Lane base is perfectly.

[ewerk 31592]

There's no point in even getting into a debate with you about, you're clearly blinded by hatred and certainly aren't going to change your views.

[Guest stevieintoon]

There's no point in even getting into a debate with you about, you're clearly blinded by hatred and certainly aren't going to change your views.

Well contradict what I'm saying for fuck sake, rather than childish remarks about me being blinded by hatred. All I've done is challenge the evidence you've provided.

[ewerk 31592]

There's no point in even getting into a debate with you about, you're clearly blinded by hatred and certainly aren't going to change your views.

Well contradict what I'm saying for fuck sake, rather than childish remarks about me being blinded by hatred. All I've done is challenge the evidence you've provided.

 

Not really, tbh.

 

Their average is generally about 400 less than capacity, there are hundreds of reasons why 400 people couldn't make it to the average game, it's negligible.

 

And that undoubtedly biased article pointed out one cup game; the attendance that night was 35,485, yes it's 750 under capacity but as the article says the police stopped tickets being sold and no doubt the capacity was reduced that night for segregation reasons.

Edited November 20, 2007 by ewerk

[Guest stevieintoon]

There's no point in even getting into a debate with you about, you're clearly blinded by hatred and certainly aren't going to change your views.

Well contradict what I'm saying for fuck sake, rather than childish remarks about me being blinded by hatred. All I've done is challenge the evidence you've provided.

 

Not really, tbh.

 

Their average is generally about 400 less than capacity, there are hundreds of reasons why 400 people couldn't make it to the average game, it's negligible.

 

And that undoubtedly biased article pointed out one cup game; the attendance that night was 35,485, yes it's 750 under capacity but as the article says the police stopped tickets being sold and no doubt the capacity was reduced that night for segregation reasons.

There were tickets available to Spurs fans that werent sold out. We'd get 52000 against the mackems for a game of dominoes

[Guest alex]

The mackems couldn't sell out of the SoL for the derby however

[ewerk 31592]

Good piece written about it here:

 

 

Tottenham fail to sell out North London derby

 

In the days of Jimmy Greaves the North London derby was one of the biggest fixtures on the calendar. Since 1970 alone there have been 7 gates in the North London derby of over 50,000, prior to that in Tottenham’s double winning season of 1960/1961 saw a massive 65,962 see a 4-2 home win, while 72,164 saw the fixture at Highbury in one early fifties game.

 

For a lot of Arsenal fans the North London derby is still up there as the highlight of the season. With the influx of new fans since the SKY boom it is fair to say fixtures against Manchester United and Chelsea are as important or if not more so than games against Spurs.

 

However the same can be said of how Spurs view the fixture, it is THE game of any season. As much as Tottenham fans hold the club in high esteem, the club have only managed to come in the top five once during this period. It’s fair to say they are viewed as a perennial mid-table club, who have more money than a lot of their counter parts but can’t seem to get it right. They have a good young squad, Martin Jol has give the masses hope for the future certainly, they’ve even began to sell out their little 36,000 capacity stadium on a regular basis something which was far from evident through-out the 1990’s.

 

There was a claim recently Tottenham had a season ticket waiting list of 30,000, a quick phone call to the ticket office reveals tickets are actually available for next season.

 

Tottenham’s last silverware was the League Cup in 1999 when an Allan Nielsen goal gave them a 1-0 win over Leicester City at Wembley. Like a lot of clubs who haven’t had a great deal of success like Everton, Newcastle United, West Ham United and Aston Villa, there’s a great deal of hunger for success. Or is there?

 

Surely this seasons League Cup is their best chance in years of winning some silverware. A semi final at home, surely the biggest fixture for Spurs fans in recent seasons, but not only that, a fixture against the bitter enemy, often described as the “Woolwich refugees”, surely 100,000 would want to attend such a fixture.

 

I think it’s fair to say given the nature of the tie, one step from the final the ticketing demands of Liverpool v Everton, Newcastle v Sunderland, Manchester United v Manchester City or Rangers v Celtic, would surely reach in to six figures. Not at White Hart Lane. The self proclaimed best fans in London failed to sell out their biggest game in years. On advice of the police, the ticket office stopped selling at 12pm yesterday and 800 tickets remained unsold.

 

You could argue that ticket prices are to blame, some of the seats unsold cost as much as £71, you could argue Arsenal use an under strength team in the Carling Cup, you could even argue, that Tottenham only had 12 days to sell the tickets. All of these are pathetic arguments, the fact remains the club couldn’t sell out their biggest game in years against their bitter local rivals, with tickets on general sale on the day of the game. If Tottenham had a ground the size of Arsenal, Manchester United or even Newcastle United, virtually half the ground would remain empty. Last night proved their little White Hart Lane base is perfectly.

 

Out of interest where did you get this article?

 

Hmmm, seems to originate here.

 

Written by a Newcastle fan called Stevie.

 

Obsessed much?

[Guest alex]

I've got a couple of cousins who are Spurs fans from Hertfordshire. Sound lads tbf.

[Guest stevieintoon]

Good piece written about it here:

 

 

Tottenham fail to sell out North London derby

 

In the days of Jimmy Greaves the North London derby was one of the biggest fixtures on the calendar. Since 1970 alone there have been 7 gates in the North London derby of over 50,000, prior to that in Tottenham’s double winning season of 1960/1961 saw a massive 65,962 see a 4-2 home win, while 72,164 saw the fixture at Highbury in one early fifties game.

 

For a lot of Arsenal fans the North London derby is still up there as the highlight of the season. With the influx of new fans since the SKY boom it is fair to say fixtures against Manchester United and Chelsea are as important or if not more so than games against Spurs.

 

However the same can be said of how Spurs view the fixture, it is THE game of any season. As much as Tottenham fans hold the club in high esteem, the club have only managed to come in the top five once during this period. It’s fair to say they are viewed as a perennial mid-table club, who have more money than a lot of their counter parts but can’t seem to get it right. They have a good young squad, Martin Jol has give the masses hope for the future certainly, they’ve even began to sell out their little 36,000 capacity stadium on a regular basis something which was far from evident through-out the 1990’s.

 

There was a claim recently Tottenham had a season ticket waiting list of 30,000, a quick phone call to the ticket office reveals tickets are actually available for next season.

 

Tottenham’s last silverware was the League Cup in 1999 when an Allan Nielsen goal gave them a 1-0 win over Leicester City at Wembley. Like a lot of clubs who haven’t had a great deal of success like Everton, Newcastle United, West Ham United and Aston Villa, there’s a great deal of hunger for success. Or is there?

 

Surely this seasons League Cup is their best chance in years of winning some silverware. A semi final at home, surely the biggest fixture for Spurs fans in recent seasons, but not only that, a fixture against the bitter enemy, often described as the “Woolwich refugees”, surely 100,000 would want to attend such a fixture.

 

I think it’s fair to say given the nature of the tie, one step from the final the ticketing demands of Liverpool v Everton, Newcastle v Sunderland, Manchester United v Manchester City or Rangers v Celtic, would surely reach in to six figures. Not at White Hart Lane. The self proclaimed best fans in London failed to sell out their biggest game in years. On advice of the police, the ticket office stopped selling at 12pm yesterday and 800 tickets remained unsold.

 

You could argue that ticket prices are to blame, some of the seats unsold cost as much as £71, you could argue Arsenal use an under strength team in the Carling Cup, you could even argue, that Tottenham only had 12 days to sell the tickets. All of these are pathetic arguments, the fact remains the club couldn’t sell out their biggest game in years against their bitter local rivals, with tickets on general sale on the day of the game. If Tottenham had a ground the size of Arsenal, Manchester United or even Newcastle United, virtually half the ground would remain empty. Last night proved their little White Hart Lane base is perfectly.

 

Out of interest where did you get this article?

 

Hmmm, seems to originate here.

 

Written by a Newcastle fan called Stevie.

 

Obsessed much?

It originally appeared in The Daily Express, I got the article of this Israeli site to show you though.

 

www.asoccer.co.il/forum/index.php?showtopic=13948&st=2740

 

Was also on Spurs site iirc

[ewerk 31592]

No matter who wrote it it's obvious that it's a one-sided article based on nit-picking.

[Guest alex]

I think the article's fair enough like. Stevie's posted it before on N-O I think. MJ on there was full of excuses iirc. None of which were very convincing.

[ewerk 31592]

Had the police let the club continue selling tickets there would not have been 750 empty seats left unsold, and as I said there would've been a fair few seats used for segregation in a game like that.

 

Anyway it's beside the point, WHL has had one of the highest utilisation rates in the PL for a few years now so Stevie's intial point is invalid.

[Guest alex]

Had the police let the club continue selling tickets there would not have been 750 empty seats left unsold, and as I said there would've been a fair few seats used for segregation in a game like that.

 

Anyway it's beside the point, WHL has had one of the highest utilisation rates in the PL for a few years now so Stevie's intial point is invalid.

Aye, it's not a very big ground though, is it? For a 'massive club' like that anyway.