ChocChip 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 (edited) How many of our players signed under Gullit, Robson and Souness have really improved their game? This isn't all of them, just some i could think of quickly. Carr.................got worse Bramble...........not really Baba................no Boum...............Not so far O'Brien.............no Hughes.............i didn't think so Robert..............1st season was his best IMO Viana...............no Jenas...............no Dyer................no Zoggy..............a bit Faye................no Lua Lua............no Ameobi............no Bernard...........improved quite a bit but should have come on more Bellamy...........yes. He's the only one i can think of who definitely upped his game and was still improving all the time. I put this down to his own desire to get better, he was a very focused guy who desperately wanted to be the best. And we still managed to sell him for less than we paid but thats another thread. 1)It seems to me that other clubs have a much better succes rate at improving players, why is this? 2)Or am i mistaken and the ones i mentioned above have really improved? 3)Or am i mistaken in that players don't ever get better at other clubs either? Edited September 14, 2005 by ChocChip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 It certainly seems to point the finger at both the current and previous coaching regimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldman 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 How many of our players signed under Gullit, Robson and Souness have really improved their game? This isn't all of them, just some i could think of quickly. Carr.................got worse Bramble...........not really Baba................no Boum...............Not so far O'Brien.............no Hughes.............i didn't think so Robert..............1st season was his best IMO Viana...............no Jenas...............no Dyer................no Zoggy..............a bit Faye................no Lua Lua............no Ameobi............no Bernard...........improved quite a bit but should have come on more Bellamy...........yes. He's the only one i can think of who definitely upped his game and was still improving all the time. I put this down to his own desire to get better, he was a very focused guy who desperately wanted to be the best. And we still managed to sell him for less than we paid but thats another thread. 1)It seems to me that other clubs have a much better succes rate at improving players, why is this? 2)Or am i mistaken and the ones i mentioned above have really improved? 3)Or am i mistaken in that players don't ever get better at other clubs either? 32613[/snapback] Becuase they're a bunch of money motivated slackers who are more interested in gertting a new Beemer than doing really well for NUFC? Or maybe we've got crap management and coaching staff? Perhaps both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Anyone who would join us is probably after the money. If a player wants desperately to win things, go to Man United, Arsenal or Chelsea. We pay big money to persuade those who would be offered less at the big 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocChip 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Author Share Posted September 14, 2005 Maybe we rely on agents to bring players to our attention rather than having a first rate scouting system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Occasionally its just random bad luck, occasionally its down to a mistake in the manager signing a player who isn't as good as first thought, but overall and without doubt its down to unbelievably shite coaching from top to bottom at this club, Coaching which has been allowed to reamain piss poor for god knows how long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc1984 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 baba has improved this season!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 As PL says I suspect the coaching is shit and has been for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocChip 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Author Share Posted September 14, 2005 As PL says I suspect the coaching is shit and has been for a long time. 32733[/snapback] I'm hoping Roeder might help with youth development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 As PL says I suspect the coaching is shit and has been for a long time. 32733[/snapback] I'm hoping Roeder might help with youth development. 32774[/snapback] I know he struggled a bit as West Ham manager but the likes of Carrick and Cole rated him as a coach by all accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon_Crazy 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 How many of our players signed under Gullit, Robson and Souness have really improved their game? This isn't all of them, just some i could think of quickly. Carr.................got worse Bramble...........not really Baba................no Boum...............Not so far O'Brien.............no Hughes.............i didn't think so, signed as kid! Improved from nothing to first team Robert..............1st season was his best IMO Viana...............no Jenas...............no He did but then disimproved. Dyer................no Zoggy..............a bit Faye................no Lua Lua............no Ameobi............no Bernard...........improved quite a bit but should have come on more Bellamy...........yes. He's the only one i can think of who definitely upped his game and was still improving all the time. I put this down to his own desire to get better, he was a very focused guy who desperately wanted to be the best. And we still managed to sell him for less than we paid but thats another thread. 1)It seems to me that other clubs have a much better succes rate at improving players, why is this? 2)Or am i mistaken and the ones i mentioned above have really improved? 3)Or am i mistaken in that players don't ever get better at other clubs either? 32613[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Disimproved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1244 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 I can't remember us having a decent coach since Faz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 (edited) What everyone else said about our coaching being shite. Edited September 15, 2005 by Sima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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