Tom 14021 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 What a pathetic piece of journo, I mean for fucks sake it's a low card to play i mean its honestly not like anyone actually gave a fuck about Mido or muslims they were just taking the piss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Yet strangely it's fine to infer all white people are racist (and again ironically racist as well). ("Caucasianophobic"?) Or that all men or sexist. ("XYobphobic"?) Or to infer all British people alive today are some how responsible for the slave trade (never mind that Britain neither invented not control the historically longest slave markets, yet was responsible for stopping slavery on most of the planet)..... ok I can't think of an "ophobic" for that one. Since when has it been fine to infer those things? You're just making stuff up now. He's not the brightest is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Yet strangely it's fine to infer all white people are racist (and again ironically racist as well). ("Caucasianophobic"?) Or that all men or sexist. ("XYobphobic"?) Or to infer all British people alive today are some how responsible for the slave trade (never mind that Britain neither invented not control the historically longest slave markets, yet was responsible for stopping slavery on most of the planet)..... ok I can't think of an "ophobic" for that one. Since when has it been fine to infer those things? You're just making stuff up now. Er.... do you actually live in the West? It is perfectly fine to infer (and sometimes even state all those things), they are pretty much the last "acceptable" (in a PC sense) bastions of bigotry around (in the West anyway). You'll even such things directly in print fairly often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 What a pathetic piece of journo, I mean for fucks sake it's a low card to play i mean its honestly not like anyone actually gave a fuck about Mido or muslims they were just taking the piss Look, I don't know if they were or weren't shouting "bomber" or whatever. My point is that if they were then it's out of order. It's never ok, just like it's never ok to abuse someone because of their race, even if afterwards you claim you didn't mean it. /big Ron] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Yet strangely it's fine to infer all white people are racist (and again ironically racist as well). ("Caucasianophobic"?) Or that all men or sexist. ("XYobphobic"?) Or to infer all British people alive today are some how responsible for the slave trade (never mind that Britain neither invented not control the historically longest slave markets, yet was responsible for stopping slavery on most of the planet)..... ok I can't think of an "ophobic" for that one. Since when has it been fine to infer those things? You're just making stuff up now. Er.... do you actually live in the West? It is perfectly fine to infer (and sometimes even state all those things), they are pretty much the last "acceptable" (in a PC sense) bastions of bigotry around (in the West anyway). You'll even such things directly in print fairly often. You clearly have a point about white middle class males still appearing to be "fair game" for ridicule...but your argument that you should still be allowed to abuse others until that is rectified doesn't make a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Yet strangely it's fine to infer all white people are racist (and again ironically racist as well). ("Caucasianophobic"?) Or that all men or sexist. ("XYobphobic"?) Or to infer all British people alive today are some how responsible for the slave trade (never mind that Britain neither invented not control the historically longest slave markets, yet was responsible for stopping slavery on most of the planet)..... ok I can't think of an "ophobic" for that one. Since when has it been fine to infer those things? You're just making stuff up now. Er.... do you actually live in the West? It is perfectly fine to infer (and sometimes even state all those things), they are pretty much the last "acceptable" (in a PC sense) bastions of bigotry around (in the West anyway). You'll even such things directly in print fairly often. You clearly have a point about white middle class males still appearing to be "fair game" for ridicule...but your argument that you should still be allowed to abuse others until that is rectified doesn't make a lot of sense. Words in my mouth at all? (although I'd say it's a fair bit wider than just "middle class") But one can't have an absolute position such as PCism and conveniently ignore some issues because it is nothing but hypocrisy. Which is one of the biggest ironies of "Islamophobia" considering most of the Islamic world seems to live in a constant state of "Westophobia". But then such things are "Islamophobia" aren't about fairness and equality at all, they are just political bludgeoning tools as certain groups cotton on to how best to war "war" in a modern media age. And none of it or that has much to do with Mido and some disparaging chants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 reet lads, its fair enough having this debate but in two different threads is a waste of time, take the discussion into the Mido has a bomb one and abuse Louise Taylor in this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4090 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I think the Ultra's should start a Louise Taylor takes it up the arse chant at the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4090 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Is it Islamaphobic to point out all Al Quaeda terrorists and the people in the taliban are islamic? No, but it's islamophobic to infer that all muslims are terrorists. But he looks like Richard reid. Or did before he got Maradonna's figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31600 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Is it Islamaphobic to point out all Al Quaeda terrorists and the people in the taliban are islamic? No, but it's islamophobic to infer that all muslims are terrorists. But he looks like Richard reid. Or did before he got Maradonna's figure. And? I was talking about in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4090 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Is it Islamaphobic to point out all Al Quaeda terrorists and the people in the taliban are islamic? No, but it's islamophobic to infer that all muslims are terrorists. But he looks like Richard reid. Or did before he got Maradonna's figure. And? I was talking about in general. So he looks like a Bomber. He wasn't being abused on the Muslim = bomber scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31600 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Is it Islamaphobic to point out all Al Quaeda terrorists and the people in the taliban are islamic? No, but it's islamophobic to infer that all muslims are terrorists. But he looks like Richard reid. Or did before he got Maradonna's figure. And? I was talking about in general. So he looks like a Bomber. He wasn't being abused on the Muslim = bomber scale. I know, as I said, I was speaking about in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 I think the Ultra's should start a Louise Taylor takes it up the arse chant at the next game. Do you reckon the Utras read The Guardian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4447 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 (edited) It looks like the cow isn't going to let it lie as theres another article today suggesting action. Thats all fair enough as long as the next time she writes about "fat geordies" everybody complains and also if the FA take action then every ground and club is treated he same. I say this because you can guaranteed Mido is going to have to get used to this treatment for a while at least. I'll also add that if the FA look at the tape properly then they'll expose Mido's "I only told them to shush" lie. Edited August 28, 2007 by NJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 She's hero worshipped over on the SMB. There are rumours she's actually one of them, as she has a long history of anti-nufc articles and biased match reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 I think the Ultra's should start a Louise Taylor takes it up the arse chant at the next game. Do you reckon the Utras read The Guardian? They only buy it for the crossword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 She's hero worshipped over on the SMB. There are rumours she's actually one of them, as she has a long history of anti-nufc articles and biased match reports. Not worth having a pop at her really then. Doesn't get any worse than that tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Yet strangely it's fine to infer all white people are racist (and again ironically racist as well). ("Caucasianophobic"?) Or that all men or sexist. ("XYobphobic"?) Or to infer all British people alive today are some how responsible for the slave trade (never mind that Britain neither invented not control the historically longest slave markets, yet was responsible for stopping slavery on most of the planet)..... ok I can't think of an "ophobic" for that one. Since when has it been fine to infer those things? You're just making stuff up now. He's not the brightest is he? I just realised you say that then agree with me 2 posts down. Bitterness > intellect in your case clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Yet strangely it's fine to infer all white people are racist (and again ironically racist as well). ("Caucasianophobic"?) Or that all men or sexist. ("XYobphobic"?) Or to infer all British people alive today are some how responsible for the slave trade (never mind that Britain neither invented not control the historically longest slave markets, yet was responsible for stopping slavery on most of the planet)..... ok I can't think of an "ophobic" for that one. Since when has it been fine to infer those things? You're just making stuff up now. He's not the brightest is he? I just realised you say that then agree with me 2 posts down. Bitterness > intellect in your case clearly. To "infer" means to "get the impression" of something. To "imply" means to "give the impression" of something. You say it's ok to get the impression that all white people are racist. I don't agree and I don't see a contradiction in anything I've said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevieintoon Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Fishy minged mackem whore, should be doing a proper woman's job like a dinner lady. (Can't think of anything more appropriate or intelligent to put) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Yet strangely it's fine to infer all white people are racist (and again ironically racist as well). ("Caucasianophobic"?) Or that all men or sexist. ("XYobphobic"?) Or to infer all British people alive today are some how responsible for the slave trade (never mind that Britain neither invented not control the historically longest slave markets, yet was responsible for stopping slavery on most of the planet)..... ok I can't think of an "ophobic" for that one. Since when has it been fine to infer those things? You're just making stuff up now. He's not the brightest is he? I just realised you say that then agree with me 2 posts down. Bitterness > intellect in your case clearly. To "infer" means to "get the impression" of something. To "imply" means to "give the impression" of something. You say it's ok to get the impression that all white people are racist. I don't agree and I don't see a contradiction in anything I've said. Aye that's used in the wrong context if you're being pedantic, but it is quite accept to imply or infer that all white people are racist in the country and indeed the West as a whole. In fact it's almost a unwritten rule (although as I said often almost directly written). Equally here it's quite acceptable to imply or infer than non-white people are never racist when black on asian and asian on black violence is the faster rising area of crime in the UK, and if you travel outside the West racism is much more rampant throughout the rest of the world than in the West. It's just broadly accepted and not used as a political bludgeon or lever (mostly because in those places it would be useless as such). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Fishy minged mackem whore, should be doing a proper woman's job like a dinner lady. (Can't think of anything more appropriate or intelligent to put) Careful or she will write an article about you too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Fishy minged mackem whore, should be doing a proper woman's job like a dinner lady. (Can't think of anything more appropriate or intelligent to put) Careful or she will write an article about you too Fishymingedophobic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Yet strangely it's fine to infer all white people are racist (and again ironically racist as well). ("Caucasianophobic"?) Or that all men or sexist. ("XYobphobic"?) Or to infer all British people alive today are some how responsible for the slave trade (never mind that Britain neither invented not control the historically longest slave markets, yet was responsible for stopping slavery on most of the planet)..... ok I can't think of an "ophobic" for that one. Since when has it been fine to infer those things? You're just making stuff up now. He's not the brightest is he? I just realised you say that then agree with me 2 posts down. Bitterness > intellect in your case clearly. To "infer" means to "get the impression" of something. To "imply" means to "give the impression" of something. You say it's ok to get the impression that all white people are racist. I don't agree and I don't see a contradiction in anything I've said. Aye that's used in the wrong context if you're being pedantic, but it is quite accept to imply or infer that all white people are racist in the country and indeed the West as a whole. In fact it's almost a unwritten rule (although as I said often almost directly written). Equally here it's quite acceptable to imply or infer than non-white people are never racist when black on asian and asian on black violence is the faster rising area of crime in the UK, and if you travel outside the West racism is much more rampant throughout the rest of the world than in the West. It's just broadly accepted and not used as a political bludgeon or lever (mostly because in those places it would be useless as such). Couldn't agree less tbh. Who finds that true or acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Fishy minged mackem whore, should be doing a proper woman's job like a dinner lady. (Can't think of anything more appropriate or intelligent to put) Careful or she will write an article about you too Fishymingedophobic? Anything Anti-toon with Phobic on the end, '' Those terribly sick Islamopeadophobic geordies chanting racist chants at good old Mido, how dare they'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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