paulwynuk42NUFC 0 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 So what do people think will enrique go in the summer? i fear he will go but PLEASE if he does go NOT TO LIVERPOOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 He isn't screwed though. That money is spent and he's still rich. As Chez argued, there's arguably more risk to his wealth by spending more of his own money on the club (to take a punt on Europe or just to stay in the PL). I tend to think he's trying to make the club sustainable (for purely selfish reasons and fair enough you might say) but I also seriously doubt he has any desire to break into the top 4 (fair enough again given how much he might need to spend). The danger is though that he risks the PL status of the club in following this policy. All speculation of course but it's not as simple as arguing he's fucked if the team doesn't do well. he's doing exactly what I said he would do [either here or on NO and if its on NO I can't search for it] in that he is running a tight financial ship, spending as little money as possible and attempting to stay in the premiership with little outlay while keeping the crowds as high as possible. The mistake he made was to buy into this myth that 52,000 supporters would come to games and he would be able to keep revenues as they were. He was a wanker for thinking that, like everybody else who did. The staggering thing was a lot of people, thinking the grass would be greener without the despicable Fat Fred who played a major part in the rise of the club, actually bought into this, urged this cost cutting and were as blind as Ashley. Those levels of interest and revenues were built up, they are now on their way down again. The club is in decline. Never heard so much made up nonsense in all my life. He's not spending a fuck load of coin. You don't like it. Simple as. Apart from that you have nothing to say. The truth is he came in spending silly money, which instantly contradicts your point, then the recession hit, meaning his exit plan was fucked. The bottomless well of fly-by-night chancers (potential buyers) dried up overnight, and the slightly more thin on the ground Saudi billionaires (all that was left) simply weren't interested. He already tried that if you recall? So he won't spend silly money anymore because he won't see any of it back. Chelsea, City and Man U can all comfortably outspend us. He doesn't want to compete with that, because he's not doing it for fun anymore. Chelsea and City are by the way. Doing it for fun, that is. Purely. Contrary to what you say, the financial mistakes he made were i) not doing due diligence, meaning he had to plough tens of millions of his own £'s into a black hole created by the outgoing regime's business model (entirely his own fault; what a dick), and ii) getting the timing wrong (global financial meltdown). And contrary to what you constantly implore people to believe, nobody in their right mind, least of all a paper billionaire, would buy a football club with the initial intention of trying to run it at break-even levels or to turn a few million quid operating profit. The very fucking notion. The trouble is, you genuinely, quite honestly believe that Shepherd would have had us back in the Champions League if he'd remained on with the previous ownership. And as long as you believe that then it really doesn't matter what's going on in the real world, you'll always be deluded. You'll read all of that as some sort of defence of Ashley/me claiming I think Ashley will get us to qualify for the Champions League more times than Hall and Shepherd btw. obsessed. Go back to your Aston Villa "plan" you stupid thick cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Gan pour a lemonade mancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Gan pour a lemonade mancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10466 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 interesting re his comments about Milner. The current regime have obviously learned nothing, and some still insist he is "moving the club forward" etc etc blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? you should, because he's telling you it like it is and he should know. This is the bloke who attracted you back to the club, remember ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 na ashleys only using our club for his betting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10466 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? you should, because he's telling you it like it is and he should know. This is the bloke who attracted you back to the club, remember Aye, whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LeazesLad Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? Prick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6703 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? In other words he has an insight into the club that you could only dream of having and what he's commenting on goes totally against what you believe in. Yes people do listen because one thing you've always got from Kevin Keegan (and always will) is the truth. Wears his heart on his sleeve and says what he thinks - regardless of who it upsets. What's more, he's bang on the money about the Milner transfer too and you cannot possibly argue otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6703 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? you should, because he's telling you it like it is and he should know. This is the bloke who attracted you back to the club, remember Aye, whatever No comeback TP? Why am I not suprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 as for keegan well i respect him he was our best manager and almost got us trophies and hes only speaking the truth about ashleys regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10466 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? you should, because he's telling you it like it is and he should know. This is the bloke who attracted you back to the club, remember Aye, whatever No comeback TP? Why am I not suprised No comeback on what ?? Just end up going round in the same old circle's with the deluded one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10466 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? In other words he has an insight into the club that you could only dream of having and what he's commenting on goes totally against what you believe in. Yes people do listen because one thing you've always got from Kevin Keegan (and always will) is the truth. Wears his heart on his sleeve and says what he thinks - regardless of who it upsets. What's more, he's bang on the money about the Milner transfer too and you cannot possibly argue otherwise. What do I believe in ?? haven't listened and probably won't, is of no interest to me, won't help us win the next game and until the summer is no better or worse conjecture than anything anyone could post on here. Of course I remember, to some, he is an inviolate object of worship and only tells the truth all the time, but even taking that into account his opinion is only an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LeazesLad Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? In other words he has an insight into the club that you could only dream of having and what he's commenting on goes totally against what you believe in. Yes people do listen because one thing you've always got from Kevin Keegan (and always will) is the truth. Wears his heart on his sleeve and says what he thinks - regardless of who it upsets. What's more, he's bang on the money about the Milner transfer too and you cannot possibly argue otherwise. What do I believe in ?? haven't listened and probably won't, is of no interest to me, won't help us win the next game and until the summer is no better or worse conjecture than anything anyone could post on here. Of course I remember, to some, he is an inviolate object of worship and only tells the truth all the time, but even taking that into account his opinion is only an opinion. Your lack or respect for him says everything there is to say about you. The greatest thing to happen to our club in two generations, and you're questioning the value of his opinions. You don't always have to look for an alternative view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6703 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? In other words he has an insight into the club that you could only dream of having and what he's commenting on goes totally against what you believe in. Yes people do listen because one thing you've always got from Kevin Keegan (and always will) is the truth. Wears his heart on his sleeve and says what he thinks - regardless of who it upsets. What's more, he's bang on the money about the Milner transfer too and you cannot possibly argue otherwise. What do I believe in ?? haven't listened and probably won't, is of no interest to me, won't help us win the next game and until the summer is no better or worse conjecture than anything anyone could post on here. Of course I remember, to some, he is an inviolate object of worship and only tells the truth all the time, but even taking that into account his opinion is only an opinion. I don't worship Keegan, but I respect that he's right. And anyway you obviously aren't listening as you know it'll be nothing you can argue about. Tantamount to sticking your fingers in your ears tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10466 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? In other words he has an insight into the club that you could only dream of having and what he's commenting on goes totally against what you believe in. Yes people do listen because one thing you've always got from Kevin Keegan (and always will) is the truth. Wears his heart on his sleeve and says what he thinks - regardless of who it upsets. What's more, he's bang on the money about the Milner transfer too and you cannot possibly argue otherwise. What do I believe in ?? haven't listened and probably won't, is of no interest to me, won't help us win the next game and until the summer is no better or worse conjecture than anything anyone could post on here. Of course I remember, to some, he is an inviolate object of worship and only tells the truth all the time, but even taking that into account his opinion is only an opinion. Your lack or respect for him says everything there is to say about you. The greatest thing to happen to our club in two generations, and you're questioning the value of his opinions. You don't always have to look for an alternative view. The greatest thing to happen to the club in my lifetime (and I'm not 2 generations old) was winning the Fairs Cup in 1969, he had nowt to do with that. I would agree he gave me some of my best days as a Newcastle supporter, but that's in the past. He's just a pundit with an opinion now (however informed it may be) and does not mean he's right (or wrong) yet. I would also add he also gave me one of my worst days as a supporter in 1974. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10466 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? In other words he has an insight into the club that you could only dream of having and what he's commenting on goes totally against what you believe in. Yes people do listen because one thing you've always got from Kevin Keegan (and always will) is the truth. Wears his heart on his sleeve and says what he thinks - regardless of who it upsets. What's more, he's bang on the money about the Milner transfer too and you cannot possibly argue otherwise. What do I believe in ?? haven't listened and probably won't, is of no interest to me, won't help us win the next game and until the summer is no better or worse conjecture than anything anyone could post on here. Of course I remember, to some, he is an inviolate object of worship and only tells the truth all the time, but even taking that into account his opinion is only an opinion. I don't worship Keegan, but I respect that he's right. And anyway you obviously aren't listening as you know it'll be nothing you can argue about. Tantamount to sticking your fingers in your ears tbh. I only argue with Leazes (well I used to) because of his delusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? you should, because he's telling you it like it is and he should know. This is the bloke who attracted you back to the club, remember Aye, whatever well, if your information about the football club comes from skunkers, it says everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 actually, this is a better thread for the Keegan interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00fc3sy Does anyone actually care what KK thinks anymore ?? In other words he has an insight into the club that you could only dream of having and what he's commenting on goes totally against what you believe in. Yes people do listen because one thing you've always got from Kevin Keegan (and always will) is the truth. Wears his heart on his sleeve and says what he thinks - regardless of who it upsets. What's more, he's bang on the money about the Milner transfer too and you cannot possibly argue otherwise. What do I believe in ?? haven't listened and probably won't, is of no interest to me, won't help us win the next game and until the summer is no better or worse conjecture than anything anyone could post on here. Of course I remember, to some, he is an inviolate object of worship and only tells the truth all the time, but even taking that into account his opinion is only an opinion. Your lack or respect for him says everything there is to say about you. The greatest thing to happen to our club in two generations, and you're questioning the value of his opinions. You don't always have to look for an alternative view. The greatest thing to happen to the club in my lifetime (and I'm not 2 generations old) was winning the Fairs Cup in 1969, he had nowt to do with that. I would agree he gave me some of my best days as a Newcastle supporter, but that's in the past. He's just a pundit with an opinion now (however informed it may be) and does not mean he's right (or wrong) yet. I would also add he also gave me one of my worst days as a supporter in 1974. what a load of shite. Most of that Fairs Cup team - great lads to a man too - know that this club should have gone on to better things after that win, but were held back by the board at the time, just like now. I don't expect you to be able to look at the bigger picture anyway, most people attracted back to the club by the Halls and Shepherd can't, all they see is hatred at not winning the league as they hoped. Tragic. This club, the status it has now which is the reason Ashley has bought it, owes everything to Keegan. Everything, he saved the club from your dreaded administration, the 3rd division, oblivion. If not for him, assisted by those who took over the club, we would have been in the doldrums for years like Sheff Wed, Wolves and others have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Can't see the interview sadly...Chez, do you have a way of seeing iplayer in France or do you just hope it goes on youtube a few days later like I do?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Can't see the interview sadly...Chez, do you have a way of seeing iplayer in France or do you just hope it goes on youtube a few days later like I do?! he talks about Newcastle from 9 minutes, before that its general stuff, but good to listen to as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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