Andrew 4771 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Jose's a c**t, I lost all respect for the guy. He wanted to leave but didnt have the balls to hand in a transfer request. He's got a cheek saying we havent replaced him. Maybe if he didn't mess us around, we'd be better sorted. He's half the full back baye was, so no big loss imo, massively over rated by most. Aly Cissokho is loads better, not that i think we'd get him. I'll wait to see who comes in by Sept 1st before i make my mind up on it. that post is so full of shit its incredible he's obviously been going for ages and has left with a few weeks of the transfer window left, we havent replaced him, how is it cheeky? hes not remotely half the fullback BEYE (not baye) was, incredible athlete, good defender and good at playing out from the back, quality fullback in every respect might as well name any left back tbh, Phillip Lahm is better, we won't get him though so why bother mentioning it. you've clearly already made your mind up and you sound bitter as fuck tbh we've been linked with Cissokho you clown, handing in a transfer request is how player let the club know they want to leave. Jose did it by playing shit for six months and tweeting. Haven't you got some studying to do? ~correcting spelling, your a typical know it all grad, not long yet. and when has that meant anything? we were linked with erdinc, pieters and gervinho but none of them are here. no I don't you may not have noticed its summer. way to carry a grudge though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Even on a day like today, he's still at it. derby wins ? Seen dozens of them lad. They have a habit of disguising poor performances, and the wrong direction, much like the mackems when they occasionally win one. Still, lets enjoy it while it lasts, is your point and I agree. Well at least we agree on something. you would be a lot more informed if you agreed with me more often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Jose's a c**t, I lost all respect for the guy. He wanted to leave but didnt have the balls to hand in a transfer request. He's got a cheek saying we havent replaced him. Maybe if he didn't mess us around, we'd be better sorted. He's half the full back baye was, so no big loss imo, massively over rated by most. Aly Cissokho is loads better, not that i think we'd get him. I'll wait to see who comes in by Sept 1st before i make my mind up on it. Wrong on so many levels its frightening! He's not a cunt he's a guy with the intellignece to see we're run by cunts who will fuck this club up and never achieve anything so he joined a club at leats havign a go at doing something. He diddn't need to hand in a request, it was obvious to anyone with a brain he was leaving and even if he stayed we needed another LB in anyway so theres no excuse at all for not havign replaced him before he was gone. Him 'messing us round' has fuck all to do with the club niot having replaced him and if you think it is you must be the sort of mong who swallow what ashley and derek come out with. And finally i'm a big fan of Beye and wish he'd never left but if you think Enrique isn't half the player Beye was then you're an idiot, plain and simple, they were both class but Beye was at the end of his career and has done exactly fuck all at Villa whilst Enrique will go on to storm it at the wall pushers and play for Spain as soon as they wake up to how good he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Phil is full of shit tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Jose's a c**t, I lost all respect for the guy. He wanted to leave but didnt have the balls to hand in a transfer request. He's got a cheek saying we havent replaced him. Maybe if he didn't mess us around, we'd be better sorted. He's half the full back baye was, so no big loss imo, massively over rated by most. Aly Cissokho is loads better, not that i think we'd get him. I'll wait to see who comes in by Sept 1st before i make my mind up on it. Wrong on so many levels its frightening! He's not a cunt he's a guy with the intellignece to see we're run by cunts who will fuck this club up and never achieve anything so he joined a club at leats havign a go at doing something. He diddn't need to hand in a request, it was obvious to anyone with a brain he was leaving and even if he stayed we needed another LB in anyway so theres no excuse at all for not havign replaced him before he was gone. Him 'messing us round' has fuck all to do with the club niot having replaced him and if you think it is you must be the sort of mong who swallow what ashley and derek come out with. And finally i'm a big fan of Beye and wish he'd never left but if you think Enrique isn't half the player Beye was then you're an idiot, plain and simple, they were both class but Beye was at the end of his career and has done exactly fuck all at Villa whilst Enrique will go on to storm it at the wall pushers and play for Spain as soon as they wake up to how good he is. He didn't hand in a transfer request, so he's a c**t, end of. Put a bow on it and blame Ashley all you want, but he messed our club around. As for Beye, Enrique only had last season in the Prem where he's showed any quality and in case you missed it, he was gash from Jan onwards. So aye Beye was twice the player. No wonder we get labeled deluded - couple of good games and you'll happily rewrite history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Phil is full of shit tbh. Care to back that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Jose's a c**t, I lost all respect for the guy. He wanted to leave but didnt have the balls to hand in a transfer request. He's got a cheek saying we havent replaced him. Maybe if he didn't mess us around, we'd be better sorted. He's half the full back baye was, so no big loss imo, massively over rated by most. Aly Cissokho is loads better, not that i think we'd get him. I'll wait to see who comes in by Sept 1st before i make my mind up on it. What an absolute twatful post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Phil is full of shit tbh. Care to back that up? The fact you said Enrique was gash from Jan onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Phil, you're talking shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Phil is full of shit tbh. Care to back that up? The fact you said Enrique was gash from Jan onwards. I cant be the only one who noticed how bad he was? Most said his heart wasn't in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Phil is full of shit tbh. Care to back that up? Shut up you little fanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Phil is full of shit tbh. Care to back that up? Shut up you little fanny Another lame quip. how predictable. Shame, as u go to the match you could have said your thoughts on Jose's performances close season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 How would handing in a transfer request make it all better? Seriously? It's a twats move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Well, that's me told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) Jose's a c**t, I lost all respect for the guy. He wanted to leave but didnt have the balls to hand in a transfer request. He's got a cheek saying we havent replaced him. Maybe if he didn't mess us around, we'd be better sorted. He's half the full back baye was, so no big loss imo, massively over rated by most. Aly Cissokho is loads better, not that i think we'd get him. I'll wait to see who comes in by Sept 1st before i make my mind up on it. Wrong on so many levels its frightening! He's not a cunt he's a guy with the intellignece to see we're run by cunts who will fuck this club up and never achieve anything so he joined a club at leats havign a go at doing something. He diddn't need to hand in a request, it was obvious to anyone with a brain he was leaving and even if he stayed we needed another LB in anyway so theres no excuse at all for not havign replaced him before he was gone. Him 'messing us round' has fuck all to do with the club niot having replaced him and if you think it is you must be the sort of mong who swallow what ashley and derek come out with. And finally i'm a big fan of Beye and wish he'd never left but if you think Enrique isn't half the player Beye was then you're an idiot, plain and simple, they were both class but Beye was at the end of his career and has done exactly fuck all at Villa whilst Enrique will go on to storm it at the wall pushers and play for Spain as soon as they wake up to how good he is. He didn't hand in a transfer request, so he's a c**t, end of. Put a bow on it and blame Ashley all you want, but he messed our club around. As for Beye, Enrique only had last season in the Prem where he's showed any quality and in case you missed it, he was gash from Jan onwards. So aye Beye was twice the player. No wonder we get labeled deluded - couple of good games and you'll happily rewrite history. Ah the classic sign of the idiot, using the phrase "end of" as if it means anything to finish an argument of yours that is complete bollocks, great stuff. So Enrrique (according to you) had 1 good season in the prem and is gash, whereas Beye has had loads of years in the prem has he, no wait he hasn't at all! And Enrique to those who can spot a good player showed what he could do from day one, he was just a bit more inconsistent and in and out of the team which never works when you try to settle into the team, but he was clearly class, he then destroyed the championship and carried it on in the prem. And even in the time from Jan on he was still good, opinion was just divided on whether he was giving everything or not. As for being deluded, you say he had a "couple of good games" thats arguably the stupidest thing ive read on here and this forum has Christmas tree and mackems so well done on that! Edited August 20, 2011 by Papa Lazaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) I agree his performance level dropped from Jan onwards, but look at it from the player's perspective: In and out of a failing team with a manager who didn't rate him (Sam) Stays with us during relegation, one of the top 2/3 players that season Exceptional performances in the Prem, the team is doing reasonably well, good team spirit Hughton Sacked, replaced by Pardew Carroll sold, not replaced This summer things have only got worse in terms of the board's behaviour. How does that make Enrique a cunt for taking a decision to leave? Enrique was particularly upset when Hughton was sacked and made public comments about it. I think after that and the Carroll sale he was never going to stay. Edited August 20, 2011 by Kevin S. Assilleekunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 The crack in the local press was he was going to run down his contract which obviously means in actually fact that the club was worried he was going to do that so got Thompson House to express that worry on their behalf. Given players in his position hold all the cards one can only assume he wanted to leave to further his ambitions but did so now and, in the process, allowed the club to get a fee for him. Only a moron (or a high-functioning austistic like Polish Nick or Phil) would expect him to hand in a transfer request which would put any potential loyalty bonus into Ashley's back pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I agree his performance level dropped from Jan onwards, but look at it from the player's perspective: In and out of a failing team with a manager who didn't rate him (Sam) Stays with us during relegation, one of the top 2/3 players that season Exceptional performances in the Prem, the team is doing reasonably well, good team spirit Hughton Sacked, replaced by Pardew Carroll sold, not replaced This summer things have only got worse in terms of the board's behaviour. How does that make Enrique a cunt for taking a decision to leave? Enrique was particularly upset when Hughton was sacked and made public comments about it. I think after that and the Carroll sale he was never going to stay. I think the point is that making a formal transfer request in May would have helped everyone know where they stood - of course you could argue it was pretty obvious anyway but I found his "I'm saying nowt until I get properly tapped by another team" stance to leave a slightly bitter taste. Of course I don't blame him for wanting to leave but imo he went about it wrongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Only a moron (or a high-functioning austistic like Polish Nick or Phil) would expect him to hand in a transfer request which would put any potential loyalty bonus into Ashley's back pocket. These things can always be gotten around by adding in on to the fee or wages - see Barton joining us as an example. I don't believe for one minute that handing in a request would cost him say in excess of 250k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Jose's a c**t, I lost all respect for the guy. He wanted to leave but didnt have the balls to hand in a transfer request. He's got a cheek saying we havent replaced him. Maybe if he didn't mess us around, we'd be better sorted. He's half the full back baye was, so no big loss imo, massively over rated by most. Aly Cissokho is loads better, not that i think we'd get him. I'll wait to see who comes in by Sept 1st before i make my mind up on it. Wrong on so many levels its frightening! He's not a cunt he's a guy with the intellignece to see we're run by cunts who will fuck this club up and never achieve anything so he joined a club at leats havign a go at doing something. He diddn't need to hand in a request, it was obvious to anyone with a brain he was leaving and even if he stayed we needed another LB in anyway so theres no excuse at all for not havign replaced him before he was gone. Him 'messing us round' has fuck all to do with the club niot having replaced him and if you think it is you must be the sort of mong who swallow what ashley and derek come out with. And finally i'm a big fan of Beye and wish he'd never left but if you think Enrique isn't half the player Beye was then you're an idiot, plain and simple, they were both class but Beye was at the end of his career and has done exactly fuck all at Villa whilst Enrique will go on to storm it at the wall pushers and play for Spain as soon as they wake up to how good he is. He didn't hand in a transfer request, so he's a c**t, end of. Put a bow on it and blame Ashley all you want, but he messed our club around. As for Beye, Enrique only had last season in the Prem where he's showed any quality and in case you missed it, he was gash from Jan onwards. So aye Beye was twice the player. No wonder we get labeled deluded - couple of good games and you'll happily rewrite history. Ah the classic sign of the idiot, using the phrase "end of" as if it means anything to finish an argument of yours that is complete bollocks, great stuff. So Enrrique (according to you) had 1 good season in the prem and is gash, whereas Beye has had loads of years in the prem has he, no wait he hasn't at all! And Enrique to those who can spot a good player showed what he could do from day one, he was just a bit more inconsistent and in and out of the team which never works when you try to settle into the team, but he was clearly class, he then destroyed the championship and carried it on in the prem. And even in the time from Jan on he was still good, opinion was just divided on whether he was giving everything or not. As for being deluded, you say he had a "couple of good games" thats arguably the stupidest thing ive read on here and this forum has Christmas tree and mackems so well done on that! You've missed my ONLY point. Jose messed the club around. There's no debate to have, its a fact. Maybe that's ok with you, I dont particularly like it. I have no interest in discussing Jose vs Beye. I know which i prefer. I was making the point we've had better full backs and their are better available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Only a moron (or a high-functioning austistic like Polish Nick or Phil) would expect him to hand in a transfer request which would put any potential loyalty bonus into Ashley's back pocket. These things can always be gotten around by adding in on to the fee or wages - see Barton joining us as an example. I don't believe for one minute that handing in a request would cost him say in excess of 250k. Barton didn't hand in a transfer request and consequently came off 500k better off. Good example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Phil is full of shit tbh. Care to back that up? The fact you said Enrique was gash from Jan onwards. I cant be the only one who noticed how bad he was? Most said his heart wasn't in it. Off the top of me head he was our best player by a mile against Blackburn away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Jose's a c**t, I lost all respect for the guy. He wanted to leave but didnt have the balls to hand in a transfer request. He's got a cheek saying we havent replaced him. Maybe if he didn't mess us around, we'd be better sorted. He's half the full back baye was, so no big loss imo, massively over rated by most. Aly Cissokho is loads better, not that i think we'd get him. I'll wait to see who comes in by Sept 1st before i make my mind up on it. Wrong on so many levels its frightening! He's not a cunt he's a guy with the intellignece to see we're run by cunts who will fuck this club up and never achieve anything so he joined a club at leats havign a go at doing something. He diddn't need to hand in a request, it was obvious to anyone with a brain he was leaving and even if he stayed we needed another LB in anyway so theres no excuse at all for not havign replaced him before he was gone. Him 'messing us round' has fuck all to do with the club niot having replaced him and if you think it is you must be the sort of mong who swallow what ashley and derek come out with. And finally i'm a big fan of Beye and wish he'd never left but if you think Enrique isn't half the player Beye was then you're an idiot, plain and simple, they were both class but Beye was at the end of his career and has done exactly fuck all at Villa whilst Enrique will go on to storm it at the wall pushers and play for Spain as soon as they wake up to how good he is. He didn't hand in a transfer request, so he's a c**t, end of. Put a bow on it and blame Ashley all you want, but he messed our club around. As for Beye, Enrique only had last season in the Prem where he's showed any quality and in case you missed it, he was gash from Jan onwards. So aye Beye was twice the player. No wonder we get labeled deluded - couple of good games and you'll happily rewrite history. Ah the classic sign of the idiot, using the phrase "end of" as if it means anything to finish an argument of yours that is complete bollocks, great stuff. So Enrrique (according to you) had 1 good season in the prem and is gash, whereas Beye has had loads of years in the prem has he, no wait he hasn't at all! And Enrique to those who can spot a good player showed what he could do from day one, he was just a bit more inconsistent and in and out of the team which never works when you try to settle into the team, but he was clearly class, he then destroyed the championship and carried it on in the prem. And even in the time from Jan on he was still good, opinion was just divided on whether he was giving everything or not. As for being deluded, you say he had a "couple of good games" thats arguably the stupidest thing ive read on here and this forum has Christmas tree and mackems so well done on that! You've missed my ONLY point. Jose messed the club around. There's no debate to have, its a fact. Maybe that's ok with you, I dont particularly like it. I have no interest in discussing Jose vs Beye. I know which i prefer. I was making the point we've had better full backs and their are better available. He messed the club around by not handing in a transfer request? Fuck off man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Who was the last player to publicly hand in a transfer request in the premier league? They're rarer than hen's teeth. Especting people to behave completely honourably when dealing with Ashley / Llambias is a fucking joke in any case. Anyway, MOTD's coming on, so Phil - suck my plums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 The crack in the local press was he was going to run down his contract which obviously means in actually fact that the club was worried he was going to do that so got Thompson House to express that worry on their behalf. Given players in his position hold all the cards one can only assume he wanted to leave to further his ambitions but did so now and, in the process, allowed the club to get a fee for him. Only a moron (or a high-functioning austistic like Polish Nick or Phil) would expect him to hand in a transfer request which would put any potential loyalty bonus into Ashley's back pocket. All very true, but he could have made his position clearer to the club without making it formal. Lord knows Barton's tweeted Bosman enough times. My understanding is Jose's representatives just stone walled the club. Given his role in the whole affair, i find it somewhat hard to hear him question why the club havent replaced him. Sure the club drag their feet, but he's not helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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