Holden McGroin 6600 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 What all of us thought anyway. In black and white now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 CT's response? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4728 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 CT's response? Response to what? He hasnt said anything of interest unless Im missing it. He's worried that we havent signed a left back? Do me a favour and join the queue. If he was that worried he should have stayed. Maybe you should point out the great bit he's revealed. I think as I said ages ago, no big surprises have or will come out and it is nothing more than what he says himself...."Sometimes good players leave a club". Sometimes players should have the good grace to be a little more honest. He wanted champions league football and more money. They didnt want him so this is his next best step. A nothing story and he should really now concentrate on his new club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 “You want to be as high as you can in the table, but maybe Newcastle don’t think the same. That is why they sell their best players and that is why everyone moves.” How you can read this and not see the inevitable slide into mediocrity is a mystery. He, quite plainly, states we're a selling club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4728 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 “You want to be as high as you can in the table, but maybe Newcastle don’t think the same. That is why they sell their best players and that is why everyone moves.” How you can read this and not see the inevitable slide into mediocrity is a mystery. He, quite plainly, states we're a selling club. My 1st point is we didnt need Enrique to tell us something we already know. We know we have no ambition to challenge for the top. My 2nd point is when he says "everyone moves because we have no ambition", he is the only one who has moved of his own free will. Nolan wanted to stay, Barton wanted to stay and depending which story you believe, Carrol wanted to stay. I have no problem with him wanting to "better" himself, but the rest is either old news or tosh.....IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 “You want to be as high as you can in the table, but maybe Newcastle don’t think the same. That is why they sell their best players and that is why everyone moves.” How you can read this and not see the inevitable slide into mediocrity is a mystery. He, quite plainly, states we're a selling club. My 1st point is we didnt need Enrique to tell us something we already know. We know we have no ambition to challenge for the top. My 2nd point is when he says "everyone moves because we have no ambition", he is the only one who has moved of his own free will. Nolan wanted to stay, Barton wanted to stay and depending which story you believe, Carrol wanted to stay. I have no problem with him wanting to "better" himself, but the rest is either old news or tosh.....IMO Your second point doesn't make much sense. We have no ambition; exhibited in moving on our best players and not signing replacements. He only left because we have no ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 (edited) He only left because we have no ambition. As much as it pains me to say it I'm pretty sure Liverpool would attract most players of his ilk even if we showed moderate ambition. They're a bigger and better club and he's more likely to be watched by the Spanish national setup playing for them (especially if they're checking up on Reina anyway). I imagine his wages have significantly improved too. Edited August 19, 2011 by Tecato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7297 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 My 2nd point is when he says "everyone moves because we have no ambition", he is the only one who has moved of his own free will. Nolan wanted to stay, Barton wanted to stay and depending which story you believe, Carrol wanted to stay. Milner, N'Zogbia, Given, Duff, Bassong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4728 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 The second point is simply this. He says "everyone moves because we have no ambition". To me that reads that he thinks all the players have left because they wanted to and that they did this because we have no ambition. Thats not true. Nolan didnt want to leave. Barton doesnt want to leave etc. So in fact, Enrique is the only one who has left of his own doing. As I said before, he hasnt blown some big new story wide open so would be better just concentrating on his new team imo. Anyway, time for bed. Sleep well all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4728 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 My 2nd point is when he says "everyone moves because we have no ambition", he is the only one who has moved of his own free will. Nolan wanted to stay, Barton wanted to stay and depending which story you believe, Carrol wanted to stay. Milner, N'Zogbia, Given, Duff, Bassong. Tbf I was talking about this season not rats fleeing a sinking ship. Nice it worked out so well for them all as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 My 2nd point is when he says "everyone moves because we have no ambition", he is the only one who has moved of his own free will. Nolan wanted to stay, Barton wanted to stay and depending which story you believe, Carrol wanted to stay. Milner, N'Zogbia, Given, Duff, Bassong. Not sure about Milner, thought he left because we got such a price for him (at the time). N'Zogbia, Given, yeah. Absolutely. I think Duff wouldn't have minded staying. Bassong and Martins leaving was a byproduct of our relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 My 2nd point is when he says "everyone moves because we have no ambition", he is the only one who has moved of his own free will. Nolan wanted to stay, Barton wanted to stay and depending which story you believe, Carrol wanted to stay. Milner, N'Zogbia, Given, Duff, Bassong. Tbf I was talking about this season not rats fleeing a sinking ship. Nice it worked out so well for them all as well. You make it sound like they're the bad guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7297 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 My 2nd point is when he says "everyone moves because we have no ambition", he is the only one who has moved of his own free will. Nolan wanted to stay, Barton wanted to stay and depending which story you believe, Carrol wanted to stay. Milner, N'Zogbia, Given, Duff, Bassong. Tbf I was talking about this season not rats fleeing a sinking ship. Nice it worked out so well for them all as well. We're still a sinking ship in the big picture. Milner, Given and N'Zogbia left prior to the relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 My 2nd point is when he says "everyone moves because we have no ambition", he is the only one who has moved of his own free will. Nolan wanted to stay, Barton wanted to stay and depending which story you believe, Carrol wanted to stay. Milner, N'Zogbia, Given, Duff, Bassong. Tbf I was talking about this season not rats fleeing a sinking ship. Nice it worked out so well for them all as well. We're still a sinking ship in the big picture. Milner, Given and N'Zogbia left prior to the relegation. Enrique's fleeing before the ship has sunk, like Milner, Given and N'zogbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 The second point is simply this. He says "everyone moves because we have no ambition". To me that reads that he thinks all the players have left because they wanted to and that they did this because we have no ambition. Thats not true. Nolan didnt want to leave. Barton doesnt want to leave etc. So in fact, Enrique is the only one who has left of his own doing. As I said before, he hasnt blown some big new story wide open so would be better just concentrating on his new team imo. Anyway, time for bed. Sleep well all. It's not a new story, but it's a story that shows how toxic Ashley and his cronies are. Jose Enrique states definitively, that this club is showing no ambition and that it's best players will be moved on. Jose would not have left if we showed ambition. I can state that with absolute conviction. I swear to God, None of the players that have left (since our return) wanted to. They've been moved on because Ashley thinks we can survive without them and that's the limit of the man's ambition. A prediction for HF, if any of them perform well, those that we've signed this season will be moved on within 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Only a matter of time before he gets called up to the Spain squad. So bitter that I hope he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 “You want to be as high as you can in the table, but maybe Newcastle don’t think the same. That is why they sell their best players and that is why everyone moves.” How you can read this and not see the inevitable slide into mediocrity is a mystery. He, quite plainly, states we're a selling club. seen the light at last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Even on a day like today, he's still at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Even on a day like today, he's still at it. derby wins ? Seen dozens of them lad. They have a habit of disguising poor performances, and the wrong direction, much like the mackems when they occasionally win one. Still, lets enjoy it while it lasts, is your point and I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Jose's a c**t, I lost all respect for the guy. He wanted to leave but didnt have the balls to hand in a transfer request. He's got a cheek saying we havent replaced him. Maybe if he didn't mess us around, we'd be better sorted. He's half the full back baye was, so no big loss imo, massively over rated by most. Aly Cissokho is loads better, not that i think we'd get him. I'll wait to see who comes in by Sept 1st before i make my mind up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Jose's a c**t, I lost all respect for the guy. He wanted to leave but didnt have the balls to hand in a transfer request. He's got a cheek saying we havent replaced him. Maybe if he didn't mess us around, we'd be better sorted. He's half the full back baye was, so no big loss imo, massively over rated by most. Aly Cissokho is loads better, not that i think we'd get him. I'll wait to see who comes in by Sept 1st before i make my mind up on it. would you not leave your job for better employers, a better company, more rewarding career prospects, and a pay rise ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4771 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Jose's a c**t, I lost all respect for the guy. He wanted to leave but didnt have the balls to hand in a transfer request. He's got a cheek saying we havent replaced him. Maybe if he didn't mess us around, we'd be better sorted. He's half the full back baye was, so no big loss imo, massively over rated by most. Aly Cissokho is loads better, not that i think we'd get him. I'll wait to see who comes in by Sept 1st before i make my mind up on it. that post is so full of shit its incredible he's obviously been going for ages and has left with a few weeks of the transfer window left, we havent replaced him, how is it cheeky? hes not remotely half the fullback BEYE (not baye) was, incredible athlete, good defender and good at playing out from the back, quality fullback in every respect might as well name any left back tbh, Phillip Lahm is better, we won't get him though so why bother mentioning it. you've clearly already made your mind up and you sound bitter as fuck tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Jose's a c**t, I lost all respect for the guy. He wanted to leave but didnt have the balls to hand in a transfer request. He's got a cheek saying we havent replaced him. Maybe if he didn't mess us around, we'd be better sorted. He's half the full back baye was, so no big loss imo, massively over rated by most. Aly Cissokho is loads better, not that i think we'd get him. I'll wait to see who comes in by Sept 1st before i make my mind up on it. that post is so full of shit its incredible he's obviously been going for ages and has left with a few weeks of the transfer window left, we havent replaced him, how is it cheeky? hes not remotely half the fullback BEYE (not baye) was, incredible athlete, good defender and good at playing out from the back, quality fullback in every respect might as well name any left back tbh, Phillip Lahm is better, we won't get him though so why bother mentioning it. you've clearly already made your mind up and you sound bitter as fuck tbh we've been linked with Cissokho you clown, handing in a transfer request is how player let the club know they want to leave. Jose did it by playing shit for six months and tweeting. Haven't you got some studying to do? ~correcting spelling, your a typical know it all grad, not long yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Jose's a c**t, I lost all respect for the guy. He wanted to leave but didnt have the balls to hand in a transfer request. He's got a cheek saying we havent replaced him. Maybe if he didn't mess us around, we'd be better sorted. He's half the full back baye was, so no big loss imo, massively over rated by most. Aly Cissokho is loads better, not that i think we'd get him. I'll wait to see who comes in by Sept 1st before i make my mind up on it. would you not leave your job for better employers, a better company, more rewarding career prospects, and a pay rise ? I've no issue with him going to Liverpool. It's the way he engineered the move, I bet he claimed his loyalty bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Even on a day like today, he's still at it. derby wins ? Seen dozens of them lad. They have a habit of disguising poor performances, and the wrong direction, much like the mackems when they occasionally win one. Still, lets enjoy it while it lasts, is your point and I agree. Well at least we agree on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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