trophyshy 7069 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4713 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 fuck I came to post that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7069 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 You've lost your edge after all this time Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4713 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 You've lost your edge after all this time Andrew. its still preseason, I'll get it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Enrique doesn't strike me as the type of fullback who is desperate to play as a winger. Whatever Enrique is on (it won't be 50K) he deserves more to stay here. He's a genuinely world class defender who got stuck in when we were relegated and helped drag us back up. If you don't pay decent wages you just cannot compete. Fantastic players necessitate fantastic wages, not pretend 'fantastic' ones. It's only cause the current high value market dictates it and the fact that legislation and contracts are all in playerd favour these days leaving clubs getting nervous in the last 18-20 months of any decent players contract. They don't actually 'need' it. Some very good players at Everton and Villa are on modest money IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I reckon if i had an hour one on one with Jose, i could persuade him to stay. My argument would be to sign a new contract and see what progress is made this season, if he is unimpressed, hand in a transfer request and i will PR the forums for him to ensure he keeps his reputation amongst the fans. Sign it, 60k a week and play his heart out to get us to 8th. If we cant have true ambition (no one in their right mind would consider a shot at the top 5) then lets have progress. I think no matter what wording is used though, the players know that its irrelevant how well they play if the rest of the team arent upto scratch (thats not me dissing the new lads either). Im sure regardless of money thoughts, the likes of Enrique wont want the dubious pleasure of relegation twice. Id also think that your average player couldnt really give a monkeys how they are viewed by an ex-clubs fans so hes not going to care about your PR exercise. And to be fair, Id automatically go against him if you came on with the PR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 But where is he realistically expecting to go the twit? Only arsenal would be a real step up. Liv, Spurs and Everton will all be fighting for 5-7. And us 7-10. If Spurs lose a couple of key players in the window and they still might it is going to be a much tougher year for them. Nobody in Spain or Italy will better his wages outside the top 2/3 and they don't need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I reckon if i had an hour one on one with Jose, i could persuade him to stay. My argument would be to sign a new contract and see what progress is made this season, if he is unimpressed, hand in a transfer request and i will PR the forums for him to ensure he keeps his reputation amongst the fans. Sign it, 60k a week and play his heart out to get us to 8th. If we cant have true ambition (no one in their right mind would consider a shot at the top 5) then lets have progress. I think no matter what wording is used though, the players know that its irrelevant how well they play if the rest of the team arent upto scratch (thats not me dissing the new lads either). Im sure regardless of money thoughts, the likes of Enrique wont want the dubious pleasure of relegation twice. Id also think that your average player couldnt really give a monkeys how they are viewed by an ex-clubs fans so hes not going to care about your PR exercise. And to be fair, Id automatically go against him if you came on with the PR Player decision-making is based on 3 factors, money, trophies and public image. There are countless examples (Rooney, Henry etc) of players making decisions based primarily on how fans would perceive them. In fact every single utterance of every single player who has ever moved clubs is driven by PR, its virtually ubiquitous. Are you predicting relegation? I hope so as you've been about as far wrong on these matters as its possible to be in the last 2 seasons. I wouldnt be relying on you to get him to stay anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30221 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Liverpool and Spurs would most certainly be a step up from where we currently are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Are you predicting relegation? I hope so as you've been about as far wrong on these matters as its possible to be in the last 2 seasons. I wouldnt be relying on you to get him to stay anyway 1 out of 3 and no Im not predicting it which is a bad thing I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Bolton and Stoke would most certainly be a step up from where we currently are. FYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Liverpool and Spurs would most certainly be a step up from where we currently are. It's all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Both those sides have a decent chance of claiming the 4th CL spot next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I would predict a poor season for Liverpool, but I can't see anyone outside the top 6 being less poor. Can't stand Dalglish and think his buys have been way overvalued across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Wouldnt be surprised to see Arsenal fall out of the top 4 depending on who they sell and who they bring in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Can't stand Dalglish and think his buys have been way overvalued across the board. £75m for Carroll,Downing and Henderson. Steep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Can't stand Dalglish and think his buys have been way overvalued across the board. £75m for Carroll,Downing and Henderson. Steep. Never mind steep they're all crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I would predict a poor season for Liverpool, but I can't see anyone outside the top 6 being less poor. Can't stand Dalglish and think his buys have been way overvalued across the board. Not a fan of Dalglish either and would agree with the buys of his but there's little to choose between them, Spurs and Arsenal imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo 0 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 If I were in Enriques camp then I wouldnt be too worried. He is holding all the aces. He can stay and everyday he does then his pay out gets bigger whilst Newcastles pay out gets reduced. As soon as he gets to January he will have every top club after him. A top left back available on the cheap. I hope he signs however I stand by my prediction he will leave! The only reason he'll stay is if he doesn't get a decent club in for him. Unless he can get his head straight I think I'd rather he went now so weve time to get a decent replacement in. In fact we should have someone lined up already cos it's pretty obvious he's wanted away for some time now. Was not the same player after rumours of Liverpools interest were reported last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7243 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 It's only cause the current high value market dictates it and the fact that legislation and contracts are all in playerd favour these days leaving clubs getting nervous in the last 18-20 months of any decent players contract. They don't actually 'need' it. Some very good players at Everton and Villa are on modest money IMO. That's a misnomer, Everton in particular pay good wages to their key players, it's how they've managed to keep them. They know it's better value overall to keep known quality than it is to chance it on the market. Not very exciting for their fans, but that stability in their side has been key to their relative consistency in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Earlier tonight, he who shall not be named tweeted that the deal had been done and that Jose was now on his way to Liverpool for a deal that could be worth upto 310 million with a 17 year old coming to our development squad in return. (jj hooper / striker) Other Journos are now tweeting the deal appears to be done so felt ok to post. Now lets just get the left back in who has hopefully being tapped up, ready to go, already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15372 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Earlier tonight, he who shall not be named tweeted that the deal had been done and that Jose was now on his way to Liverpool for a deal that could be worth upto 310 million with a 17 year old coming to our development squad in return. (jj hooper / striker) Even I'll get behind that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13769 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 cant even muster the energy to be annoyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL 0 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Only if the whole 310 million is invested into the training ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Earlier tonight, he who shall not be named tweeted that the deal had been done and that Jose was now on his way to Liverpool for a deal that could be worth upto 310 million with a 17 year old coming to our development squad in return. (jj hooper / striker) Even I'll get behind that. Long day Imagine the training facilities we would have if it were true!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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