José Enrique

[Guest]

Is netto being run in a fashion to make up for debts left by past owners like spongprick? If not, stick your question up for arse

 

 

So no answer then. Its always going to be Shepherds fault. ok

 

by the way; Spongprick - sick burn.

 

How can I answer something about a nonesensical statement you made you thick fuck

[spongebob toonpants 3909]

Is netto being run in a fashion to make up for debts left by past owners like spongprick? If not, stick your question up for arse

 

 

So no answer then. Its always going to be Shepherds fault. ok

 

by the way; Spongprick - sick burn.

 

How can I answer something about a nonesensical statement you made you thick fuck

 

Sorry if it is too tricky for you. Seemed a pretty basic question to me

[Guest]

Is netto being run in a fashion to make up for debts left by past owners like spongprick? If not, stick your question up for arse

 

 

So no answer then. Its always going to be Shepherds fault. ok

 

by the way; Spongprick - sick burn.

 

How can I answer something about a nonesensical statement you made you thick fuck

 

Sorry if it is too tricky for you. Seemed a pretty basic question to me

 

Let me translate into daft cunt for you, I don't think it's being run like s netto, so can't answer it

[spongebob toonpants 3909]

Is netto being run in a fashion to make up for debts left by past owners like spongprick? If not, stick your question up for arse

 

 

So no answer then. Its always going to be Shepherds fault. ok

 

by the way; Spongprick - sick burn.

 

How can I answer something about a nonesensical statement you made you thick fuck

 

Sorry if it is too tricky for you. Seemed a pretty basic question to me

 

Let me translate into daft cunt for you, I don't think it's being run like s netto, so can't answer it

 

lol ok. Avoid away

[Guest]

How long are you going to blame Ashley for shepherd putting the wheels in motion for the clubs decline spongebob? You do realis that we're now an improvement on what he bought?

[Gemmill 44184]

Spongprick. Fuck me.

[Meenzer 15353]

How would you get it in?

[Ayatollah Hermione 13762]

Has ASM made ONE post that has been tedious baiting bollocks?

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

Has ASM made ONE post that has been tedious baiting bollocks?

 

No, several.

 

CT was right, Enrique was on the wain tonight imo

[Ayatollah Hermione 13762]

Well, that was some typo.

[Guest]

Spongprick. Fuck me.

 

Spongenob then

[Guest]

Has ASM made ONE post that has been tedious baiting bollocks?

 

I merely respond t the tedious baiting in every thread when everything ever is down to how the club is bring run

[Guest]

Fuckin autocorrect

[Dolly Potter MD 0]

Was 6mill a club record for a full back leazes? Bargain basment tbh, I guess your man didn't see them as important as they don't sell many shirts

 

 

Pistone [4.5m] and Domi [about the same] were signings whose fees/expenditure could not be sneezed & scoffed at, especially in what was a depressed market, comparatively speaking when looking at the prices thrown about for quality & emerging talent these days.......... and let's not forget Barton, the most expensive British defender at the time.

 

Having said that Man United's 'reported interest' in Miguel [during the European Champs where he impressed ie. the Summer when we signed Carr] effectively priced us out the market. At the other end of the scale [fees paid] Seitaridis was a missed opportunity, when Porto signed him prior to the aforementioned championships, whereas we/the board opted to look at him sign him based on his Euro showing.

 

Whereas your man's record [in terms of 'misses' in the transfer market]by comparison reads like a motorway pile-up.

 

 

What are you even on about? Are you justifying signing Stephen Carr because Man Utd was linked with Miguel in the papers?

 

The lad starred during the aforementioned tournament. It's a rule of thumb that asking prices are raised accordingly - Man United were scared off as well, by a 10m+ pricetag slapped on by Benfica.

 

Remember this is the same club & manager [Fergie] who have had their fingers previously burnt by paying large fees for players on the back of a break-out performance, at a major tourney ie. Porbosky. Ironically by the same club as well.

 

As for the signing of Carr. An international defender with leadership qualities, who was probably in need of a change in scenery, as well as a turn in fortune on the injury front. A justafied & cost-effective gamble at the time, for a player of premiership pedigree.

 

Wenger signed Overmarrs despite major question marks hanging over the player's durability, as MO was still on the rebound from a knee reconstruction. An educated gamble on Wenger/Arsenal's part, and it payed off. Sometimes they come off. Of course the alternative being we could've trowelled through the lower divisions looking for mid-20's 'chancers', players who haven't cut the grade in their respective lower leagues ie. Perch'esque targets.

Edited February 15, 2011 by Year Zero

[Guest]

Was 6mill a club record for a full back leazes? Bargain basment tbh, I guess your man didn't see them as important as they don't sell many shirts

 

 

Pistone [4.5m] and Domi [about the same] were signings whose fees/expenditure could not be sneezed & scoffed at, especially in what was a depressed market, comparatively speaking when looking at the prices thrown about for quality & emerging talent these days.......... and let's not forget Barton, the most expensive British defender at the time.

 

Having said that Man United's 'reported interest' in Miguel [during the European Champs where he impressed ie. the Summer when we signed Carr] effectively priced us out the market. At the other end of the scale [fees paid] Seitaridis was a missed opportunity, when Porto signed him prior to the aforementioned championships, whereas we/the board opted to look at him sign him based on his Euro showing.

 

Whereas your man's record [in terms of 'misses' in the transfer market]by comparison reads like a motorway pile-up.

 

 

What are you even on about? Are you justifying signing Stephen Carr because Man Utd was linked with Miguel in the papers?

 

The lad starred during the aforementioned tournament. It's a rule of thumb that asking prices are raised accordingly - Man United were scared off as well, by a 10m+ pricetag slapped on by Benfica.

 

Remember this is the same club & manager [Fergie] who have had their fingers previously burnt by paying large fees for players on the back of a break-out performance, at a major tourney ie. Porbosky. Ironically by the same club as well.

 

As for the signing of Carr. An international defender with leadership qualities, who was probably in need of a change in scenery, as well as a turn in fortune on the injury front. A justafied & cost-effective gamble at the time, for a player of premiership pedigree.

 

Wenger signed Overmarrs despite major question marks hanging over the player's durability, as MO was still on the rebound from a knee reconstruction. An educated gamble on Wenger/Arsenal's part, and it payed off. Sometimes they come off. Of course the alternative being we could've trowelled through the lower divisions looking for mid-20's 'chancers', players who haven't cut the grade in their respective lower leagues ie. Perch'esque targets.

 

 

Why wasn't Carr replaced when it became obvious how shit he clearly was then?

[Guest]

Comparing signing overmars to carr btw

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

If we wanted to gamble on a good player with dodgy fitness we should have got Trabelsi

[Dolly Potter MD 0]

Was 6mill a club record for a full back leazes? Bargain basment tbh, I guess your man didn't see them as important as they don't sell many shirts

 

 

Pistone [4.5m] and Domi [about the same] were signings whose fees/expenditure could not be sneezed & scoffed at, especially in what was a depressed market, comparatively speaking when looking at the prices thrown about for quality & emerging talent these days.......... and let's not forget Barton, the most expensive British defender at the time.

 

Having said that Man United's 'reported interest' in Miguel [during the European Champs where he impressed ie. the Summer when we signed Carr] effectively priced us out the market. At the other end of the scale [fees paid] Seitaridis was a missed opportunity, when Porto signed him prior to the aforementioned championships, whereas we/the board opted to look at him sign him based on his Euro showing.

 

Whereas your man's record [in terms of 'misses' in the transfer market]by comparison reads like a motorway pile-up.

 

 

What are you even on about? Are you justifying signing Stephen Carr because Man Utd was linked with Miguel in the papers?

 

The lad starred during the aforementioned tournament. It's a rule of thumb that asking prices are raised accordingly - Man United were scared off as well, by a 10m+ pricetag slapped on by Benfica.

 

Remember this is the same club & manager [Fergie] who have had their fingers previously burnt by paying large fees for players on the back of a break-out performance, at a major tourney ie. Porbosky. Ironically by the same club as well.

 

As for the signing of Carr. An international defender with leadership qualities, who was probably in need of a change in scenery, as well as a turn in fortune on the injury front. A justafied & cost-effective gamble at the time, for a player of premiership pedigree.

 

Wenger signed Overmarrs despite major question marks hanging over the player's durability, as MO was still on the rebound from a knee reconstruction. An educated gamble on Wenger/Arsenal's part, and it payed off. Sometimes they come off. Of course the alternative being we could've trowelled through the lower divisions looking for mid-20's 'chancers', players who haven't cut the grade in their respective lower leagues ie. Perch'esque targets.

 

 

Why wasn't Carr replaced when it became obvious how shit he clearly was then?

 

Why don't you ask the relevent manager/s then. It's their call, are you still a misguided believer of the whole 'Fat Controller' myth.

 

Why slate a regime who previously backed their respective managers judgments when either fullback slots were marked for overhaul, whether they be for footballing reasons - or in Souness' case for non-footballing reasons.

Edited February 15, 2011 by Year Zero

[Guest]

Was 6mill a club record for a full back leazes? Bargain basment tbh, I guess your man didn't see them as important as they don't sell many shirts

 

 

Pistone [4.5m] and Domi [about the same] were signings whose fees/expenditure could not be sneezed & scoffed at, especially in what was a depressed market, comparatively speaking when looking at the prices thrown about for quality & emerging talent these days.......... and let's not forget Barton, the most expensive British defender at the time.

 

Having said that Man United's 'reported interest' in Miguel [during the European Champs where he impressed ie. the Summer when we signed Carr] effectively priced us out the market. At the other end of the scale [fees paid] Seitaridis was a missed opportunity, when Porto signed him prior to the aforementioned championships, whereas we/the board opted to look at him sign him based on his Euro showing.

 

Whereas your man's record [in terms of 'misses' in the transfer market]by comparison reads like a motorway pile-up.

 

 

What are you even on about? Are you justifying signing Stephen Carr because Man Utd was linked with Miguel in the papers?

 

The lad starred during the aforementioned tournament. It's a rule of thumb that asking prices are raised accordingly - Man United were scared off as well, by a 10m+ pricetag slapped on by Benfica.

 

Remember this is the same club & manager [Fergie] who have had their fingers previously burnt by paying large fees for players on the back of a break-out performance, at a major tourney ie. Porbosky. Ironically by the same club as well.

 

As for the signing of Carr. An international defender with leadership qualities, who was probably in need of a change in scenery, as well as a turn in fortune on the injury front. A justafied & cost-effective gamble at the time, for a player of premiership pedigree.

 

Wenger signed Overmarrs despite major question marks hanging over the player's durability, as MO was still on the rebound from a knee reconstruction. An educated gamble on Wenger/Arsenal's part, and it payed off. Sometimes they come off. Of course the alternative being we could've trowelled through the lower divisions looking for mid-20's 'chancers', players who haven't cut the grade in their respective lower leagues ie. Perch'esque targets.

 

 

Why wasn't Carr replaced when it became obvious how shit he clearly was then?

 

Why don't you ask the relevent manager/s then. It's their call, are you still a misguided believer of the whole 'Fat Controller' myth.

 

Why slate a regime who previously backed their respective managers judgments when either fullback slots were marked for overhaul, whether they be for footballing reasons - or in Souness' case for non-footballing reasons.

 

 

Are you calling Sir Bobby a liar like?

[Guest]

http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...mode=linearplus

 

 

See this thread re: Carr, buddy

 

 

Edit the article isn't there anymore but Dr Kenneth's post in it is pretty much accurate according to SBR

Edited February 15, 2011 by AshleysSkidMark

[Dolly Potter MD 0]

Comparing signing overmars to carr btw

 

I don't think you saw enough of Carr [prior to his knee recon], otherwise you wouldn't be throwing around such rash statements.

 

...................... btw we've signed players with dodgy fitness records as well under the previous regime, moves that payed dividends as well. A particular Andrew Cole springs to mind, and his record was shocking on this front before KK signed him. As said before they sometimes come off & sometimes they dont, that's the volatile nature of what is a speculative market.

 

Life must be a beautiful living within the exclusive clours of black & white, when one views life through hindsight tinted glasses.

Edited February 15, 2011 by Year Zero

[Dolly Potter MD 0]

Was 6mill a club record for a full back leazes? Bargain basment tbh, I guess your man didn't see them as important as they don't sell many shirts

 

 

Pistone [4.5m] and Domi [about the same] were signings whose fees/expenditure could not be sneezed & scoffed at, especially in what was a depressed market, comparatively speaking when looking at the prices thrown about for quality & emerging talent these days.......... and let's not forget Barton, the most expensive British defender at the time.

 

Having said that Man United's 'reported interest' in Miguel [during the European Champs where he impressed ie. the Summer when we signed Carr] effectively priced us out the market. At the other end of the scale [fees paid] Seitaridis was a missed opportunity, when Porto signed him prior to the aforementioned championships, whereas we/the board opted to look at him sign him based on his Euro showing.

 

Whereas your man's record [in terms of 'misses' in the transfer market]by comparison reads like a motorway pile-up.

 

 

What are you even on about? Are you justifying signing Stephen Carr because Man Utd was linked with Miguel in the papers?

 

The lad starred during the aforementioned tournament. It's a rule of thumb that asking prices are raised accordingly - Man United were scared off as well, by a 10m+ pricetag slapped on by Benfica.

 

Remember this is the same club & manager [Fergie] who have had their fingers previously burnt by paying large fees for players on the back of a break-out performance, at a major tourney ie. Porbosky. Ironically by the same club as well.

 

As for the signing of Carr. An international defender with leadership qualities, who was probably in need of a change in scenery, as well as a turn in fortune on the injury front. A justafied & cost-effective gamble at the time, for a player of premiership pedigree.

 

Wenger signed Overmarrs despite major question marks hanging over the player's durability, as MO was still on the rebound from a knee reconstruction. An educated gamble on Wenger/Arsenal's part, and it payed off. Sometimes they come off. Of course the alternative being we could've trowelled through the lower divisions looking for mid-20's 'chancers', players who haven't cut the grade in their respective lower leagues ie. Perch'esque targets.

 

 

Why wasn't Carr replaced when it became obvious how shit he clearly was then?

 

Why don't you ask the relevent manager/s then. It's their call, are you still a misguided believer of the whole 'Fat Controller' myth.

 

Why slate a regime who previously backed their respective managers judgments when either fullback slots were marked for overhaul, whether they be for footballing reasons - or in Souness' case for non-footballing reasons.

 

 

Are you calling Sir Bobby a liar like?

 

.............. and did Shepherd pass across a desk & hand a note to himself, with the words 'Michael Owen' scrawled on it, while Mr Souness played the part of a so-called innocent onlooker?

[Guest]

Comparing signing overmars to carr btw

 

I don't think you saw enough of Carr [prior to his knee recon], otherwise you wouldn't be throwing around such rash statements.

 

...................... btw we've signed players with dodgy fitness records as well under the previous regime, moves that payed dividends as well. A particular Andrew Cole springs to mind, and his record was shocking on this front before KK signed him. As said before they sometimes come off & sometimes they dont, that's the volatile nature of what is a speculative market.

 

Life must be a beautiful living within the exclusive clours of black & white, when one views life through hindsight tinted glasses.

 

 

Carr cost us £2m. Why would Spurs, a club we were above at the time, sell us a player of any quality for that much? That's the thing about a "lower league chancer" for similar money, they are small clubs who can be forced into selling quality players for relatively small fees. If Spurs are selling you one for that much, they obviously think they have better. Why would we want a worse right back than a team below us?

[Guest]

Was 6mill a club record for a full back leazes? Bargain basment tbh, I guess your man didn't see them as important as they don't sell many shirts

 

 

Pistone [4.5m] and Domi [about the same] were signings whose fees/expenditure could not be sneezed & scoffed at, especially in what was a depressed market, comparatively speaking when looking at the prices thrown about for quality & emerging talent these days.......... and let's not forget Barton, the most expensive British defender at the time.

 

Having said that Man United's 'reported interest' in Miguel [during the European Champs where he impressed ie. the Summer when we signed Carr] effectively priced us out the market. At the other end of the scale [fees paid] Seitaridis was a missed opportunity, when Porto signed him prior to the aforementioned championships, whereas we/the board opted to look at him sign him based on his Euro showing.

 

Whereas your man's record [in terms of 'misses' in the transfer market]by comparison reads like a motorway pile-up.

 

 

What are you even on about? Are you justifying signing Stephen Carr because Man Utd was linked with Miguel in the papers?

 

The lad starred during the aforementioned tournament. It's a rule of thumb that asking prices are raised accordingly - Man United were scared off as well, by a 10m+ pricetag slapped on by Benfica.

 

Remember this is the same club & manager [Fergie] who have had their fingers previously burnt by paying large fees for players on the back of a break-out performance, at a major tourney ie. Porbosky. Ironically by the same club as well.

 

As for the signing of Carr. An international defender with leadership qualities, who was probably in need of a change in scenery, as well as a turn in fortune on the injury front. A justafied & cost-effective gamble at the time, for a player of premiership pedigree.

 

Wenger signed Overmarrs despite major question marks hanging over the player's durability, as MO was still on the rebound from a knee reconstruction. An educated gamble on Wenger/Arsenal's part, and it payed off. Sometimes they come off. Of course the alternative being we could've trowelled through the lower divisions looking for mid-20's 'chancers', players who haven't cut the grade in their respective lower leagues ie. Perch'esque targets.

 

 

Why wasn't Carr replaced when it became obvious how shit he clearly was then?

 

Why don't you ask the relevent manager/s then. It's their call, are you still a misguided believer of the whole 'Fat Controller' myth.

 

Why slate a regime who previously backed their respective managers judgments when either fullback slots were marked for overhaul, whether they be for footballing reasons - or in Souness' case for non-footballing reasons.

 

 

Are you calling Sir Bobby a liar like?

 

.............. and did Shepherd pass across a desk & hand a note to himself, with the words 'Michael Owen' scrawled on it, while Mr Souness played the part of a so-called innocent onlooker?

 

What. The. Fuck.

[Dolly Potter MD 0]

Was 6mill a club record for a full back leazes? Bargain basment tbh, I guess your man didn't see them as important as they don't sell many shirts

 

 

Pistone [4.5m] and Domi [about the same] were signings whose fees/expenditure could not be sneezed & scoffed at, especially in what was a depressed market, comparatively speaking when looking at the prices thrown about for quality & emerging talent these days.......... and let's not forget Barton, the most expensive British defender at the time.

 

Having said that Man United's 'reported interest' in Miguel [during the European Champs where he impressed ie. the Summer when we signed Carr] effectively priced us out the market. At the other end of the scale [fees paid] Seitaridis was a missed opportunity, when Porto signed him prior to the aforementioned championships, whereas we/the board opted to look at him sign him based on his Euro showing.

 

Whereas your man's record [in terms of 'misses' in the transfer market]by comparison reads like a motorway pile-up.

 

 

What are you even on about? Are you justifying signing Stephen Carr because Man Utd was linked with Miguel in the papers?

 

The lad starred during the aforementioned tournament. It's a rule of thumb that asking prices are raised accordingly - Man United were scared off as well, by a 10m+ pricetag slapped on by Benfica.

 

Remember this is the same club & manager [Fergie] who have had their fingers previously burnt by paying large fees for players on the back of a break-out performance, at a major tourney ie. Porbosky. Ironically by the same club as well.

 

As for the signing of Carr. An international defender with leadership qualities, who was probably in need of a change in scenery, as well as a turn in fortune on the injury front. A justafied & cost-effective gamble at the time, for a player of premiership pedigree.

 

Wenger signed Overmarrs despite major question marks hanging over the player's durability, as MO was still on the rebound from a knee reconstruction. An educated gamble on Wenger/Arsenal's part, and it payed off. Sometimes they come off. Of course the alternative being we could've trowelled through the lower divisions looking for mid-20's 'chancers', players who haven't cut the grade in their respective lower leagues ie. Perch'esque targets.

 

 

Why wasn't Carr replaced when it became obvious how shit he clearly was then?

 

Why don't you ask the relevent manager/s then. It's their call, are you still a misguided believer of the whole 'Fat Controller' myth.

 

Why slate a regime who previously backed their respective managers judgments when either fullback slots were marked for overhaul, whether they be for footballing reasons - or in Souness' case for non-footballing reasons.

 

 

Are you calling Sir Bobby a liar like?

 

.............. and did Shepherd pass across a desk & hand a note to himself, with the words 'Michael Owen' scrawled on it, while Mr Souness played the part of a so-called innocent onlooker?

 

What. The. Fuck.

 

 

The point has clearly escaped you even if it was sarcastic, given the 'note handed/passed to Shepherd, by Souness' originated straight from the horse's mouth ie. Souness. It's a relevant point given there's a belief that Owen was FS's signing, and that our buying strategy [under successive managers] was somewhat geared around FS playing out his own FM fantasy.

 

BTW, although it's taboo given his stature, but i'm more than prepared to question his final two season's management here [and i've put it on record here before, with the so-called 'whys'], and more than happy to admit that the board was justafied in putting a succession plan in place [by removing Robson - 04/05 being his last season] as brutal as it was.

 

The mistakes were Hall Jr prematurely hitting the panic button, and probably not sacking him prior to the 04/05 Summer transfer window, when the board must have had some reservations about his management at the time - as there should have been earlier, in the wake of him setting upa defensive rearguard [playing away from the team's strengths, as he did in the season's opening month] in the second leg against Partizan. That second leg tie, and the corresponding fixture [which tied in with Robson's tactical reshuffle - particularly on the left flank, with Robert employed too deep] period killed our season.