Will Sam sign some shexy players?

[Andrew 4966]

Incidentally, how long has the transfer window been open? Surely not long enough for people to be already bitching and whining and going all chicken little because we haven't signed Ronaldinho yet.

 

I don't think anyone is doing that, just pointing out that the players that are coming in are hardly going to push us up to where we want to be, we're going to need more quality to push us up around where we were under Robson.

 

but we're not suddenly going to become a top 4 team and we're not going to be able to attract the big guns even with our money, chelsea struggled to when they first got rich and they were a better team then than we are now

 

I didn't say we were, but that is what we should be aiming for.

 

Chelsea bought the likes of Duff, Joe Cole, Makelele so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, they did have the attraction of CL though.

 

skols post there ^^^ is my point

[Papa Lazaru 0]

I think people have just got to relax and realise that what we're doing at the moment is building a squad capable of performing week in, week out. Okay, they're not world class but what we've lacked over the past few years is a squad with someone capable in every position. Not only are we doing that but we're doing it without spending too much money, which will stand us in good stead for when we do start to look at the big names.

 

Once we've got the bare bones of a top 6 or even top 4 squad we can start on throwing big money bids in for players and testing other club's resolve. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

 

Exactly, under the last bunch of fuckwitts we'd have nobody in at all yet, and possibly would have kept hold of 1 or more of the 5 players released and probably not have sold Parker.

 

We don't know what Big Sam and Ashley have planned or talked about and how much money will be released, but come the start of the season then we'll judge how well they have done in building our squad.

 

I'm hoping afair bit will go ona top class LB but also bring in another cheaper one so we can dump Baba out on his arse!

[Baggio 0]

I think people have just got to relax and realise that what we're doing at the moment is building a squad capable of performing week in, week out. Okay, they're not world class but what we've lacked over the past few years is a squad with someone capable in every position. Not only are we doing that but we're doing it without spending too much money, which will stand us in good stead for when we do start to look at the big names.

 

Once we've got the bare bones of a top 6 or even top 4 squad we can start on throwing big money bids in for players and testing other club's resolve. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

 

I think this whole thread is going off topic from what it was originally supposed to be about and I don't think anyone is suggesting Allardyce is doing a bad job at all, far from in fact, however people are just pointing out that while the likes of Viduka and Barton are going to have a good impact on our squad, we're going to need one or two quality additions to our squad if we plan on catching the likes of Spurs.

[Chaser 1321]

have we not got door openers in the form of Charlie & Dyer? Both lots of pace and Zog has a few tricks up his sleeve

 

Whats Robert doing these days? Im sure BS could get a season or two out of him

[Ketsbaia 0]

I think people have just got to relax and realise that what we're doing at the moment is building a squad capable of performing week in, week out. Okay, they're not world class but what we've lacked over the past few years is a squad with someone capable in every position. Not only are we doing that but we're doing it without spending too much money, which will stand us in good stead for when we do start to look at the big names.

 

Once we've got the bare bones of a top 6 or even top 4 squad we can start on throwing big money bids in for players and testing other club's resolve. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

 

I think this whole thread is going off topic from what it was originally supposed to be about and I don't think anyone is suggesting Allardyce is doing a bad job at all, far from in fact, however people are just pointing out that while the likes of Viduka and Barton are going to have a good impact on our squad, we're going to need one or two quality additions to our squad if we plan on catching the likes of Spurs.

 

I wasn't saying that either, infact I was agreeing that the likes of Viduka and Barton aren't going to get us into the top 5 or 6 by themselves. I agree we need quality, but we also need a strong squad.

[ewerk 31587]

We need some creativity in the centre of the park IMO, Emre isn't the answer. We've Duff and N'Zogbia on the left wing and Dyer and Milner may be able to do a job on the right. The problem up front is that Owen and Martins aren't going to create too many chances themselves but with the right supply line they're capable of putting chances away.

Edited July 2, 2007 by ewerk

[The Fish 11070]

We need some creativity in the centre of the park IMO, Emre isn't the answer. We've Duff and N'Zogbia on the left wing and Dyer and Milner may be able to do a job on the right. The problem up front is that Owen and Martins aren't going to create too many chances themselves but with the right supply line they're capable of putting chances away.

 

First things first, sort out the back four. Once that's done then we get to the more interesting and exciting tasks of improving our creative edge. As has been said, we cannot attract the big big players simply because, right now, we're not an attractive club to join. If we get into Europe for next season, then I'd expect some more exhilerrating players to get excited about this club. As it stands we're a midtable club, with no european competition, no stable team, in the middle of a transition period and an uncertainty over the style of football we'll be playing.

 

a center back and a fullback or two, then start trying to persuade the Sneijders and Quaresmas of the world.

[sandman02uk 0]

We need some creativity in the centre of the park IMO, Emre isn't the answer. We've Duff and N'Zogbia on the left wing and Dyer and Milner may be able to do a job on the right. The problem up front is that Owen and Martins aren't going to create too many chances themselves but with the right supply line they're capable of putting chances away.

 

First things first, sort out the back four. Once that's done then we get to the more interesting and exciting tasks of improving our creative edge. As has been said, we cannot attract the big big players simply because, right now, we're not an attractive club to join. If we get into Europe for next season, then I'd expect some more exhilerrating players to get excited about this club. As it stands we're a midtable club, with no european competition, no stable team, in the middle of a transition period and an uncertainty over the style of football we'll be playing.

 

a center back and a fullback or two, then start trying to persuade the Sneijders and Quaresmas of the world.

 

what he said ^^^^

 

We have all heard of just how shambolic the dressing room is, how we have prima donnas in the team, big sam needs to strengthen the team in the right way so people fight for a place rather than assuming they are automatically gonna get picked and then throwing a hissy fit when they dont

 

I'm still super excited about whats happening at SJP, and its been many many years since I've been able to say that

[Ketsbaia 0]

We need some creativity in the centre of the park IMO, Emre isn't the answer. We've Duff and N'Zogbia on the left wing and Dyer and Milner may be able to do a job on the right. The problem up front is that Owen and Martins aren't going to create too many chances themselves but with the right supply line they're capable of putting chances away.

 

First things first, sort out the back four. Once that's done then we get to the more interesting and exciting tasks of improving our creative edge. As has been said, we cannot attract the big big players simply because, right now, we're not an attractive club to join. If we get into Europe for next season, then I'd expect some more exhilerrating players to get excited about this club. As it stands we're a midtable club, with no european competition, no stable team, in the middle of a transition period and an uncertainty over the style of football we'll be playing.

 

a center back and a fullback or two, then start trying to persuade the Sneijders and Quaresmas of the world.

 

Agree completely there. Look how well Pompy did last season with a good defence and not much else.

[The Fish 11070]

We need some creativity in the centre of the park IMO, Emre isn't the answer. We've Duff and N'Zogbia on the left wing and Dyer and Milner may be able to do a job on the right. The problem up front is that Owen and Martins aren't going to create too many chances themselves but with the right supply line they're capable of putting chances away.

 

First things first, sort out the back four. Once that's done then we get to the more interesting and exciting tasks of improving our creative edge. As has been said, we cannot attract the big big players simply because, right now, we're not an attractive club to join. If we get into Europe for next season, then I'd expect some more exhilerrating players to get excited about this club. As it stands we're a midtable club, with no european competition, no stable team, in the middle of a transition period and an uncertainty over the style of football we'll be playing.

 

a center back and a fullback or two, then start trying to persuade the Sneijders and Quaresmas of the world.

 

Agree completely there. Look how well Pompy did last season with a good defence and not much else.

 

exactly, they were stoic at the back and distinctly average up front. We should have at least two top quality strikers, a decent creative midfield and a combatative bite in the centre. I am quite excited about this season, but fully aware that the task of turning our fortunes won't be done in one transfer window.

[Ketsbaia 0]

We need some creativity in the centre of the park IMO, Emre isn't the answer. We've Duff and N'Zogbia on the left wing and Dyer and Milner may be able to do a job on the right. The problem up front is that Owen and Martins aren't going to create too many chances themselves but with the right supply line they're capable of putting chances away.

 

First things first, sort out the back four. Once that's done then we get to the more interesting and exciting tasks of improving our creative edge. As has been said, we cannot attract the big big players simply because, right now, we're not an attractive club to join. If we get into Europe for next season, then I'd expect some more exhilerrating players to get excited about this club. As it stands we're a midtable club, with no european competition, no stable team, in the middle of a transition period and an uncertainty over the style of football we'll be playing.

 

a center back and a fullback or two, then start trying to persuade the Sneijders and Quaresmas of the world.

 

Agree completely there. Look how well Pompy did last season with a good defence and not much else.

 

exactly, they were stoic at the back and distinctly average up front. We should have at least two top quality strikers, a decent creative midfield and a combatative bite in the centre. I am quite excited about this season, but fully aware that the task of turning our fortunes won't be done in one transfer window.

 

I think most people understand that, it's just the excitement of watching us actually being ran properly. It's sad but if we'd actually had a proper manager in over the past few years I can't imagine us getting half as excited over Viduka, Barton, Rozehnal and Geremi.

[Fop 1]

Incidentally, how long has the transfer window been open? Surely not long enough for people to be already bitching and whining and going all chicken little because we haven't signed Ronaldinho yet.

 

 

Pfft we don't want him, we want a cloned and artificially aged accelerated Pele tbh.

[The Fish 11070]

 

I think most people understand that, it's just the excitement of watching us actually being ran properly. It's sad but if we'd actually had a proper manager in over the past few years I can't imagine us getting half as excited over Viduka, Barton, Rozehnal and Geremi.

 

It's a fair point, imagine Dalglish never joined and it was Robson as Keegans successor. If we'd bought (the equivalent) of those players we'd see him as fleshing out the squad, but in no way improving it.

 

10 years (jesus.. is it that long?) down the road and we're mired in inadequacy and our expectations have (rightly) plummeted.

 

But I have hope, these signings aren't Shexy, but they're the road to sexy... I look at these players as the pokey Ferry, spattered with oil, paint flaking off the interior walls, that's taking us to Amsterdam and all the drink, drugs and dirty whores we can manage

[Ketsbaia 0]

 

I think most people understand that, it's just the excitement of watching us actually being ran properly. It's sad but if we'd actually had a proper manager in over the past few years I can't imagine us getting half as excited over Viduka, Barton, Rozehnal and Geremi.

 

It's a fair point, imagine Dalglish never joined and it was Robson as Keegans successor. If we'd bought (the equivalent) of those players we'd see him as fleshing out the squad, but in no way improving it.

 

10 years (jesus.. is it that long?) down the road and we're mired in inadequacy and our expectations have (rightly) plummeted.

 

But I have hope, these signings aren't Shexy, but they're the road to sexy... I look at these players as the pokey Ferry, spattered with oil, paint flaking off the interior walls, that's taking us to Amsterdam and all the drink, drugs and dirty whores we can manage

 

Sounds like one of Freddy's weekends away.

[Park Life 71]

I'm concerned mainly because we haven't approached what I call gifted players apart from Anelka.

[Dr Gloom 22511]

as long as he doesn't sign any players in his own image

[jaythesouthernmag 0]

I would rather have hungry players with something to prove rather than so called names who cost big money,demand huge wages and produce jack. I think we will see a vast improvement in Emre and I wouldnt be surprised to see BS getting a lot from Luque

[geordieshandy 0]

 

I think most people understand that, it's just the excitement of watching us actually being ran properly. It's sad but if we'd actually had a proper manager in over the past few years I can't imagine us getting half as excited over Viduka, Barton, Rozehnal and Geremi.

 

It's a fair point, imagine Dalglish never joined and it was Robson as Keegans successor. If we'd bought (the equivalent) of those players we'd see him as fleshing out the squad, but in no way improving it.

 

10 years (jesus.. is it that long?) down the road and we're mired in inadequacy and our expectations have (rightly) plummeted.

 

But I have hope, these signings aren't Shexy, but they're the road to sexy... I look at these players as the pokey Ferry, spattered with oil, paint flaking off the interior walls, that's taking us to Amsterdam and all the drink, drugs and dirty whores we can manage

 

But will they have a dischcotheque with esch club playing on a non-schtop loop, where you aren't allowed to jump around or else the cd schkips?

[Dr Gloom 22511]

luque is a lost cause if you ask me

[bobbyshinton 59]

I would rather have hungry players with something to prove rather than so called names who cost big money,demand huge wages and produce jack. I think we will see a vast improvement in Emre and I wouldnt be surprised to see BS getting a lot from Luque

 

 

not me I can't even speak Spanish

 

 

[jaythesouthernmag 0]

luque is a lost cause if you ask me

 

If BS keeps him you can be assured he will deliver, look at what he did with some of the players at bolton, Okocha,Campo,djorkaev etc and Luque is still the right side of 30, his problem was that Roeder didnt like him and wouldnt play him so his confidence was shot

[snakehips 0]

I'm concerned mainly because we haven't approached what I call gifted players apart from Anelka.

 

I reckon Large Sam has been quite clever in his signings so far. He has bought/signed four medium-to-good-class players who will add much-needed strength to our squad. In signing the first four, it has cost NUFC about £1m nett (when taking the Parker money into consideration). That leaves NUFC around £10m to £20m (the usual close season money we have, not to mention any more that Ashley, I say Ashley, wants to add to the kitty) to spend on top quality players.

 

These four signings that Large Sam has made has raised the profile of NUFC massively, and all prospective quality signings surely must be inclined to take any offer seriously with the thought of 'there is something really happening at Newcastle and do I want to be part of it'. Now, we're not going to get every player the large fella wants, but our profile must be something that is tempting.

 

Because of our raised profile, I reckon a serious attempt at top-drawer players will be interesting, especially Wayne Bridge.

[Scottish Mag 3]

 

Because of our raised profile, I reckon a serious attempt at top-drawer players will be interesting, especially Wayne Bridge.

 

What do we need Bridge for isn't Baines signing?

[snakehips 0]

 

Because of our raised profile, I reckon a serious attempt at top-drawer players will be interesting, especially Wayne Bridge.

 

What do we need Bridge for isn't Baines signing?

 

My mrs thought she saw him in Dobbies Garden Centre yest'day buying a water feature. Turned out to be Zinadine Zidane - stupid cow!

[bobbyshinton 59]

 

Because of our raised profile, I reckon a serious attempt at top-drawer players will be interesting, especially Wayne Bridge.

 

What do we need Bridge for isn't Baines signing?

 

Oh my god no.............. light blue touch paper