RedfernMag 0 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) I remember Frank de Wulf from that early Eurobeat sound too, particularly his mix of Human Resource's rave classic Dominator. Dated now but class. I think that was the record that introduced me to R&S. I've just been having a mooch around YouTube and it looks like our lad Frank's set up his own channel a few months ago, there's a few mixes and stuff on there, (first impressions are positive), that could change though... https://www.youtube.com/user/frankdewulfofficial Edited August 7, 2014 by RedfernMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedfernMag 0 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) warhead - always found the eventual drop on this one a bit of a letdown but feel the bass in the build up on a loud system. omg that mix sounds different than the one I had on Vinyl (it's probably just YT compressing the fuck out of it), I always loved when the bass steps forward at 2:15, great track. Edited August 7, 2014 by RedfernMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedfernMag 0 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) And Newcastle's (or there about's) own Hidden Agenda. I think I read someplace they were first influenced by playing Andrea Parker records up from 33rpm to 45rpm... Andrea Parker was/is great :-) Edited August 7, 2014 by RedfernMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedfernMag 0 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 actually that half remembered Andrea Parker reference may have been attributed to the other Newcastle D&B duo Elementz of Noize... which would make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedfernMag 0 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 EON - Void Dweller (1992) was a great dark/early breaks album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35072 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Good shout on Luke Solomon, that's a name that's been off my radar, will check that one out. Did you ever hear that story about Sneaks first set at Back to Basics where apparently the mix was recorded off the desk and ended up being passed around the odd record shop (no names mentioned), only for Sneak to find out and say he would never play there again? could be just one of those myths. What i loved about DiY was they retained the whole *free party* ethos without resorting to playing fucking gabba (which is what the likes of Spiral Tribe ended up doing) I remember when some of them got nicked at a Reclaim The Streets event in 97 trying to drive a van/soundsystem into Trafalgar Square (they were a few blocks away when stopped), It was a shame as the only sound system to get through was one of those 'London Acid Techno' lot (Liberators), bloody awful music but a canny knees up none the less (the driver of that van was up for attempted murder for driving through a police line!) - here's a clip (from 35:00) my mate's on top of the van Speaking of Derrick Carter, do you remember any of that Jack the Tab acid house stuff? Psychic TV with Dave Ball (Soft Cell) and Richard Norris (Dave and Richard went on to form The Grid), they released a few 12" they released this in 88' According to folk lore PTV were playing a gig in 88 in Chicago and a few of them went off to look for records they had heard were being called Acid House, they ended up in a record shop run by a 17 year old Derrick Carter who explained that 'Acid' was a slang term for sampling and not LSD like these crazy English guys thought, anyway Derrick ended up DJing at the gig and the band came home and made the above record I hadn't heard that tale about Sneak. It wouldn't surprise me though as I think a lot of DJs inevitably became a bit precious around that time as they were effectively superstars. There were rumours in Mixmag etc. that Jeremy Healy could command £10k a set and was booked out for the next 5 years Probably a bit of bullshit on the part of whoever was representing him but it gives an insight into how daft it had got in the 90s. As for DiY, I almost mentioned their free party ethos. Loughborough, where I studied had a bit of a free party scene because, at that time, certain police forces didn't strictly enforce the Criminal Justice Act. In Leicestershire they basically allowed parties to take place so long as they weren't next to residential areas or causing some other nuisance. As you say though, most of that scene was crusties who liked shit acid techno. The Liberator DJs released a compilation around then called something like It's Not Intelligent, It's Not From Detroit, But It's Fucking 'Avin It to which the obvious response was "Aye, but it's fucking shite". I'm not familiar with that Jack the Tab stuff but, re Derrick Carter, it's funny how a lot of records that became classics back then were made by kids in their bedroom who weren't even clubbers. I think that applied to Jamie Principle's Your Love. The song which was used by The Source featuring Candi Stanton as the basis for You Got the Love. Similarly, I think Joey Beltram was a teenager who'd never done drugs when he made Energy Flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35072 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) With all the mention of Roni Size et al, you're probably familiar with this: http://www.discogs.com/Various-V-Classic/release/13556 Lots of classics off the label and its associates already mentione but it includes the epic Maintain by Krust: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ6RKmrPz7c Proper sucker for a great soul vocal on a drum and bass tune. Edited August 8, 2014 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35072 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Back on techno, you're probably familiar with Colin's Dale Outer Limits (which took the name from his KissFM show): http://www.discogs.com/Colin-Dales-Outer-Limits/release/36160 It's still one of my favouite mixes to this day. There's a volume 2: http://www.discogs.com/Colin-Dale-Colin-Dales-Outer-Limits%C2%B2/release/28377 Which is also very good but lacks the ecleticism of the first release. Seen him live a few times and he was always absolutely brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35072 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Finally for now, not wanting to leave Chez out One which should nicely float the boat of any house heads out there is DJ Harvey's Ministry of Sound Late Night Sessions: http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Harvey-Late-Night-Sessions/release/46779 (https://soundcloud.com/garethisonit/041-dj-harvey-late-night-sessions) Another very good one is Harri's Subculture mix: http://www.discogs.com/Harri-Subculture-A-House-Music-Experience/master/649026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 With all the mention of Roni Size et al, you're probably familiar with this: http://www.discogs.com/Various-V-Classic/release/13556 Lots of classics off the label and its associates already mentione but it includes the epic Maintain by Krust: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ6RKmrPz7c Proper sucker for a great soul vocal on a drum and bass tune. V classics. nuff said. A seminal collection of 90s dnb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 "i know what it is and i got to maintain" still sounds lush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 anyone into minimal techno? it was the soundtrack to a trip to ibiza i took a few years back. circo loco at dc 10 and sven vath's cocoon night were both ridiculously good parties, as well as the more obvious we love space at space. this gives you an idea of the dc 10 crowd you get these amazing moments at dc 10 where the whole crowd sits down during breakdown then erupt when the tune drops back in here's a minimal mix to get your head nodding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35072 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) If you like your techno minimal and dubby, this is German duo Scion's DJ mix of tracks they've remixed by the German dub techno legends Basic Channel and from their label of the same name. Minimal but deep and emotional stuff that takes you on a journey: http://www.discogs.com/Scion-Arrange-And-Process-Basic-Channel-Tracks/master/4648 It's one you need to stick on and let wash over you. Highly recommended. Edited August 8, 2014 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 If you like your techno minimal and dubby, this is German duo Scion's DJ mix of tracks they've remixed by the German dub techno legends Basic Channel and their label of the same name. Minimal but deep and emotional stuff that takes you on a journey: http://www.discogs.com/Scion-Arrange-And-Process-Basic-Channel-Tracks/master/4648 It's one you need to stick on let wash over you. Highly recommended. nice. bookmarked for later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedfernMag 0 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 yeah that Scion mix is great, thanks for the reminder. One of my favourite minimal tunes is this (which also sounds great slowed right down) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35072 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Robert Hood is quality. I like his minimal stuff, mainly released as singles but also like on Internal Empire. His Nighttime World albums are good (still searching for an affordable copy of volume 2 - I'm not paying in excess of £50 for a second hand disc) and his Wire to Wire album is another good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I spent the entire 90s raving and know virtually none of this music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 What were you into trophyshy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 used to love this one and it still sounds the business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 If you like your techno minimal and dubby, this is German duo Scion's DJ mix of tracks they've remixed by the German dub techno legends Basic Channel and from their label of the same name. Minimal but deep and emotional stuff that takes you on a journey: http://www.discogs.com/Scion-Arrange-And-Process-Basic-Channel-Tracks/master/4648 It's one you need to stick on and let wash over you. Highly recommended. 20 minutes into this. feeling it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35072 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) Getting back to house, anyone a fan of Miguel Migs? Love his soulfoul / deep house sound. Nude Tempo One is a class(y) DJ Mix (http://www.discogs.com/Miguel-Migs-Nude-Tempo-One/release/46412) which features this gem: Good producer anarl. Edited August 11, 2014 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21914 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 i like the soulful dnb but when it comes to house, i like mine a bit techy on an electro vibe with a bit of wobble these days like my nu leng and mak and pasteman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35072 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) Without wishing to get too bogged down with sub-genres, I like the tech-house sound too. I like those two you posted (especially the 2nd one). A couple of DJs I've already mentioned (Colin Dale and Luke Solomon) are well into that stuff now. Dale did an excellent Excursions mix that was mainly that a few years ago: http://www.discogs.com/Colin-Dale-Excursions-03/release/62174 which you'd probably like. I think I like house mixes better when they mix it up a bit though as I think just a tech-house set can get a bit dull. It can be brilliant when the DJ gets it right though. Edit: Nice example of the sort of stuff on that Colin Dale comp: http://www.beatport.com/track/elektro-kraut-ian-pooleys-moody-remix/4947383 Edited August 12, 2014 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedfernMag 0 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I think I like house mixes better when they mix it up a bit though as I think just a tech-house set can get a bit dull. It can be brilliant when the DJ gets it right though. Yeah I agree with that, I remember when I first went to Wiggle (Terry Francis' night), and I got bored after a while (which was a first for me at the time, in thinking back it may of also had something to do with more modern/digital PA's appearing at that time (I think Fabric was the first place i went that had speakers lifted up off the floor), I wasn't too keen on that as I couldn't stick my head in the bass bin ) My opinion then was that tech-house was just people playing deep-house too fast. This was a good one of his: (Pagan put out some good tunes) I also had the unmixed Vinyl of that comp he put out on Pagan (Architecture), there was some good tracks on that, including this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedfernMag 0 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) I had a bit of a love/hate relationship with Naked Music, the productions were warm & smooth with that very distinctive west coast sound, but they were always destined to become background fodder for cocktail bars. (the record sleeves didn't help with that whole vibe) there's some good tunes on this mix by MM I prefer my music to be a bit rough around the edges (and my women drinking pints & smoking rollies) Edited August 12, 2014 by RedfernMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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