Park Life 71 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I think a 'Mug 'O' Tea' franchise would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I know a lad who has a Costa (iirc) Coffee franchise for his sandwich shop. The mark-up on that stuff is fucking ludicrous. 5p to make a capuccino they say. inc wages, rent and bills etc.. That can't be right. Per coffee yes it's right. I paid €2.80 here for some kind of cooler drink which in effect was just crushed ice water and flavouring. Costa. Cost 2p to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I quite like a Starbucks every now and again tbh. Drive thru Starbucks are a genius invention. As are drive thru ATMs. Drive thru off licenses next no doubt. Drive thru Boulangeries. I shit you not. Nowt wrong with a bit of convenience though. The drive thru ATM is class. Arse to Mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I know a lad who has a Costa (iirc) Coffee franchise for his sandwich shop. The mark-up on that stuff is fucking ludicrous. 5p to make a capuccino they say. inc wages, rent and bills etc.. That can't be right. Per coffee yes it's right. I paid €2.80 here for some kind of cooler drink which in effect was just crushed ice water and flavouring. Costa. Cost 2p to make. Even if not spot on, it's probably not a million miles off the truth. How much is a starbuck franchise then? I want to open one on Renton's route to work and fleece the flabby fucker dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I quite like a Starbucks every now and again tbh. Drive thru Starbucks are a genius invention. As are drive thru ATMs. Drive thru off licenses next no doubt. Drive thru Boulangeries. I shit you not. Nowt wrong with a bit of convenience though. The drive thru ATM is class. Arse to Mouth? Aye he talks out of his so its highly convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I was doing some sums with my mate here in Hamburg who's just opened a cafe. Coffee machine : gaggia free they consider it adv Wine from sardinia 50% knocked off the trade price yada yada.... He's asked for his license to print money as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I was doing some sums with my mate here in Hamburg who's just opened a cafe. Coffee machine : gaggia free they consider it adv Wine from sardinia 50% knocked off the trade price yada yada.... He's asked for his license to print money as we speak. I thought your ex was a barrister, not a barrista? boom boom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47059 Posted June 19, 2007 Author Share Posted June 19, 2007 I know a lad who has a Costa (iirc) Coffee franchise for his sandwich shop. The mark-up on that stuff is fucking ludicrous. 5p to make a capuccino they say. inc wages, rent and bills etc.. That can't be right. Per coffee yes it's right. I paid €2.80 here for some kind of cooler drink which in effect was just crushed ice water and flavouring. Costa. Cost 2p to make. I'm not having 5p for a cappucino though. Not with all costs absorbed. That's just plain old boolsheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I was doing some sums with my mate here in Hamburg who's just opened a cafe. Coffee machine : gaggia free they consider it adv Wine from sardinia 50% knocked off the trade price yada yada.... He's asked for his license to print money as we speak. I thought your ex was a barrister, not a barrista? boom boom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I was doing some sums with my mate here in Hamburg who's just opened a cafe. Coffee machine : gaggia free they consider it adv Wine from sardinia 50% knocked off the trade price yada yada.... He's asked for his license to print money as we speak. I thought your ex was a barrister, not a barrista? boom boom! Pasta machine free for the first year before contract as long as he signs to buy one in year 2. Staff €8 euro per hour. The shopping complex it's attached to pay half his rent. The Hamburg Stadt give him a grant for employing people....etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Definitely changing careers tbf. Can't wait for the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Definitely changing careers tbf. Can't wait for the day. He goes into work about midday and leaves at 4pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Definitely changing careers tbf. Can't wait for the day. He goes into work about midday and leaves at 4pm. I wasn't taking the piss. And the business model just got even more attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Definitely changing careers tbf. Can't wait for the day. He goes into work about midday and leaves at 4pm. I wasn't taking the piss. And the business model just got even more attractive. If you fancy it look into it he has to work hard one or two days a week ie Saturday he's there from 7am to 10pm, but the rest of it looks very relaxed to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Owning a coffee shop in Hamburg is a different proposition to one in Manchester i would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47059 Posted June 19, 2007 Author Share Posted June 19, 2007 http://www.costa.co.uk/working/franchises_local.aspx An initial investment of £250k with a commitment to another £500k on top of that without borrowing against the value of the first store. Fuck that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 http://www.costa.co.uk/working/franchises_local.aspx An initial investment of £250k with a commitment to another £500k on top of that without borrowing against the value of the first store. Fuck that! The lad I know is in a different situation as it isn't a Costa Coffee shop. He just had a franchise to sell their coffee in his sandwich shop. At least I think it's Costa he sells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22401 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I know a lad who has a Costa (iirc) Coffee franchise for his sandwich shop. The mark-up on that stuff is fucking ludicrous. 5p to make a capuccino they say. inc wages, rent and bills etc.. That can't be right. Per coffee yes it's right. I paid €2.80 here for some kind of cooler drink which in effect was just crushed ice water and flavouring. Costa. Cost 2p to make. Even if not spot on, it's probably not a million miles off the truth. How much is a starbuck franchise then? I want to open one on Renton's route to work and fleece the flabby fucker dry. Visibly upset by my hair comment. And Gemmill's correct, commonsense tells you it costs more tha 5p to make a cappucino - staff costs including taxes, cup, coffee, milk, machine, electricity, rent, business taxes, protection money, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 (edited) I know a lad who has a Costa (iirc) Coffee franchise for his sandwich shop. The mark-up on that stuff is fucking ludicrous. 5p to make a capuccino they say. inc wages, rent and bills etc.. That can't be right. Per coffee yes it's right. I paid €2.80 here for some kind of cooler drink which in effect was just crushed ice water and flavouring. Costa. Cost 2p to make. Even if not spot on, it's probably not a million miles off the truth. How much is a starbuck franchise then? I want to open one on Renton's route to work and fleece the flabby fucker dry. Visibly upset by my hair comment. And Gemmill's correct, commonsense tells you it costs more tha 5p to make a cappucino - staff costs including taxes, cup, coffee, milk, machine, electricity, rent, business taxes, protection money, etc. I know it grates doesn't it. But it's true. Your mobile cost about 70p to make. Your averge pc made in china etc cost about £70 to make. Go figure. Edited June 19, 2007 by Parky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22401 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I know a lad who has a Costa (iirc) Coffee franchise for his sandwich shop. The mark-up on that stuff is fucking ludicrous. 5p to make a capuccino they say. inc wages, rent and bills etc.. That can't be right. Per coffee yes it's right. I paid €2.80 here for some kind of cooler drink which in effect was just crushed ice water and flavouring. Costa. Cost 2p to make. Even if not spot on, it's probably not a million miles off the truth. How much is a starbuck franchise then? I want to open one on Renton's route to work and fleece the flabby fucker dry. Visibly upset by my hair comment. And Gemmill's correct, commonsense tells you it costs more tha 5p to make a cappucino - staff costs including taxes, cup, coffee, milk, machine, electricity, rent, business taxes, protection money, etc. I know it grates doesn't it. But it's true. Your mobile cost about 70p to make. Your averge pc made in china etc cost about £70 to make. Go figure. It doesn't upset me and it isn't true. Even if manpower alone was the only expenditure, the employee would have to be making a cup of coffee every 30 seconds, without breaks, non-stop, for that model to work. I don't believe it's that cheap to make a mobile either, or a computer. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31587 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Your mobile cost about 70p to make. And how'd you figure that one out? Using the same method as the 5p per coffee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Your mobile cost about 70p to make. And how'd you figure that one out? Using the same method as the 5p per coffee? Whatever. I haven't got time to argue it. How in gods name do you think cafe manage to pay london rents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22401 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 (edited) Your mobile cost about 70p to make. And how'd you figure that one out? Using the same method as the 5p per coffee? Whatever. I haven't got time to argue it. How in gods name do you think cafe manage to pay london rents? Exactly. Are you even including rent in your business model? Edit: what overheads are you including, the cost of coffee only? Edited June 19, 2007 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31587 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 (edited) Your mobile cost about 70p to make. And how'd you figure that one out? Using the same method as the 5p per coffee? Whatever. I haven't got time to argue it. How in gods name do you think cafe manage to pay london rents? Anyway rent is London is much exaggerated, did you know the average coffee shop in London only pays £7.63 a month in rent? Edited June 19, 2007 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 10 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 How much to design though and test? is that included? Market research? sales forcasting? eh eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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