Park Life 71 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Always admired he bravura as a person rather than her 'art'. The bed was the final straw for me. "In the centre of the first gallery, Emin has created four wooden constructions made of criss-crossed sticks, formless columns that look so fragile you could knock them over with a feather. Elsewhere, we find her signature embroideries, one with the words "No / You / Still / Hurt". A love poem in pink neon reads, in part: "every part of my body is screaming / smashed into a thousand million pieces..." In recent paintings in acrylic, Emin's subject is once again her own fragmented body, which she presents as abject, a passive receptacle, a thing to be penetrated. As you can see from all this, she has only has one subject - Tracey's fragility, Tracey's pain, Tracey's sense of betrayal. And so far, here in Britain, that's been fine. But, by showcasing this body of work in the international context of the Venice Biennale, the British Council has cruelly exposed Emin's limitations as an artist." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml...2/baemin112.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11115 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I am Jacks total apathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 I am Jacks total apathy An installation piece perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22638 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I like her stuff personally. Mind fine art is a s subjective as it gets and I'm no modern critic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 I like her stuff personally. Mind fine art is a s subjective as it gets and I'm no modern critic. I freely admit that I like 'her' ever since those drunken tv appearances, but her obsession with the body...Leves me cold. Damian and his sharks and stuff is more iconaclastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22638 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I like her stuff personally. Mind fine art is a s subjective as it gets and I'm no modern critic. I freely admit that I like 'her' ever since those drunken tv appearances, but her obsession with the body...Leves me cold. Damian and his sharks and stuff is more iconaclastic. Hirst is a fantastic pop artist. At least his stuff is fun to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 I like her stuff personally. Mind fine art is a s subjective as it gets and I'm no modern critic. I freely admit that I like 'her' ever since those drunken tv appearances, but her obsession with the body...Leves me cold. Damian and his sharks and stuff is more iconaclastic. Hirst is a fantastic pop artist. At least his stuff is fun to look at. His new diamond skull thing is further proof of this imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11115 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) not really a fan of sculptures as a genre (right term? I dunno) While I can appreciate the craftmanship I find getting any sense of emotion or underlying narrative far more approachable in paintings/prints. this may make me a bit short sighted or what have you, but it's the truth. The only Scuplture that actually moved me was David at the .. Ufesi (I think ) in Florence. But if you fail to be moved by that your heart is officially dead. Edit Tell a lie, I always swell with pride when I see the Angel on the way home... I think that's more because it's the first landmark I see that really makes me feel like I'm "home" Edited June 12, 2007 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22638 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 not really a fan of sculptures as a genre (right term? I dunno) While I can appreciate the craftmanship I find getting any sense of emotion or underlying narrative far more approachable in paintings/prints. this may make me a bit short sighted or what have you, but it's the truth. The only Scuplture that actually moved me was David at the .. Ufesi (I think ) in Florence. But if you fail to be moved by that your heart is officially dead. Edit Tell a lie, I always swell with pride when I see the Angel on the way home... I think that's more because it's the first landmark I see that really makes me feel like I'm "home" Fish officially "moved" by a sculpture of a naked bloke with a tiny tadger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11115 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 not really a fan of sculptures as a genre (right term? I dunno) While I can appreciate the craftmanship I find getting any sense of emotion or underlying narrative far more approachable in paintings/prints. this may make me a bit short sighted or what have you, but it's the truth. The only Scuplture that actually moved me was David at the .. Ufesi (I think ) in Florence. But if you fail to be moved by that your heart is officially dead. Edit Tell a lie, I always swell with pride when I see the Angel on the way home... I think that's more because it's the first landmark I see that really makes me feel like I'm "home" Fish officially "moved" by a sculpture of a naked bloke with a tiny tadger. Renton officially a fat bitter hermer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 not really a fan of sculptures as a genre (right term? I dunno) While I can appreciate the craftmanship I find getting any sense of emotion or underlying narrative far more approachable in paintings/prints. this may make me a bit short sighted or what have you, but it's the truth. The only Scuplture that actually moved me was David at the .. Ufesi (I think ) in Florence. But if you fail to be moved by that your heart is officially dead. Edit Tell a lie, I always swell with pride when I see the Angel on the way home... I think that's more because it's the first landmark I see that really makes me feel like I'm "home" I find myself in agreement. The 3d form seems too concrete lacking the scope for 'visual play'. In a sense there is less room for projection as there is in paintings where an emotional attachment can build slowly and perhaps be taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 To quote Radgi.... Pseudo Intellectuals and trees tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22638 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 not really a fan of sculptures as a genre (right term? I dunno) While I can appreciate the craftmanship I find getting any sense of emotion or underlying narrative far more approachable in paintings/prints. this may make me a bit short sighted or what have you, but it's the truth. The only Scuplture that actually moved me was David at the .. Ufesi (I think ) in Florence. But if you fail to be moved by that your heart is officially dead. Edit Tell a lie, I always swell with pride when I see the Angel on the way home... I think that's more because it's the first landmark I see that really makes me feel like I'm "home" I find myself in agreement. The 3d form seems too concrete lacking the scope for 'visual play'. In a sense there is less room for projection as there is in paintings where an emotional attachment can build slowly and perhaps be taken away. This shit is right up yours and Fish's street! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Barbera Hepworth tbp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47539 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 The sculpture of David at the Ufizi is a reproduction iirc. So congrats on being moved by a reproduction, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11115 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 The sculpture of David at the Ufizi is a reproduction iirc. So congrats on being moved by a reproduction, Dave. there are two, knobcheese, the real David and a replica. I saw both. I was under the impression I'd seen the real one under cover outside the gallery and was wholly disappointed, but was advised (by an American no less) that the real David was on show inside. Fuck You Ginger Bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 The ancient Greek and Roman statues in The Louvre including the Venus de Milo are worth seeing. Far less crowded than the rugby scrum round the Mona Lisa too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11115 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 honestly wasn't that impressed with the Mona Lisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22638 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 The sculpture of David at the Ufizi is a reproduction iirc. So congrats on being moved by a reproduction, Dave. there are two, knobcheese, the real David and a replica. I saw both. I was under the impression I'd seen the real one under cover outside the gallery and was wholly disappointed, but was advised (by an American no less) that the real David was on show inside. Fuck You Ginger Bollocks The fact you were moved by a statue of a naked bloke with a chipolatta penis remains though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 honestly wasn't that impressed with the Mona Lisa. Neither was I. Other paintings have impressed me much more. The Nightwatch is miles better imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11115 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 The sculpture of David at the Ufizi is a reproduction iirc. So congrats on being moved by a reproduction, Dave. there are two, knobcheese, the real David and a replica. I saw both. I was under the impression I'd seen the real one under cover outside the gallery and was wholly disappointed, but was advised (by an American no less) that the real David was on show inside. Fuck You Ginger Bollocks The fact you were moved by a statue of a naked bloke with a chipolatta penis remains though. it had nothing to do with his chinese field mouse johnson It was his disproportionately large hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 I wonder if she ever sold that tent? Titled: "All the people I have loved" or summat. My theory is if you move to Hoxton, Camden or Notting Hill your head goes to mush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22638 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I wonder if she ever sold that tent? Titled: "All the people I have loved" or summat. My theory is if you move to Hoxton, Camden or Notting Hill your head goes to mush. I bet that tent reeks as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 The incredulity of St Thomas by Caravaggio is fucking great art. Emin is just a chancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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