wykikitoon 21610 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Champions League medals? I know Seedorf is the only player to win it with 3 different cups and he has 4 in total. Cant seem to find it anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty 0 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Maldini has won 5 now hasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 I think to be pedantic Seedorf has won the most Champions League winners medals but Maldini has won more European Cup winners medals. Not sure if Puskas or Gento won five too but I know Di Stefano won 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 (edited) Just had a quick check and Gento won six which is (unsurprisingly) the record. Edited May 24, 2007 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11098 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Paco Gento benefitted in two ways, one he was playing in the competition when Real Madrid were streets ahead of the others and he was not too shabby a footballer aswell. I've been thinking about Maldini since last night and I'm struggling to think of a better defender in my life time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Paco Gento benefitted in two ways, one he was playing in the competition when Real Madrid were streets ahead of the others and he was not too shabby a footballer aswell. I've been thinking about Maldini since last night and I'm struggling to think of a better defender in my life time. 2J would probably say Paul McGrath Baresi wasn't too shabby. I always liked Jurgen Kohler too. A bit like Tony Adams but a better footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Paco Gento benefitted in two ways, one he was playing in the competition when Real Madrid were streets ahead of the others and he was not too shabby a footballer aswell. I've been thinking about Maldini since last night and I'm struggling to think of a better defender in my life time. If there was actually a better defender, he'd be Italian. What is it about their game which makes their defenders so good? If Maldini and Nesta had been playing last nights game 5 or 6 years ago, there wouldn't be a strikeforce in the world who could break them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22628 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Paco Gento benefitted in two ways, one he was playing in the competition when Real Madrid were streets ahead of the others and he was not too shabby a footballer aswell. I've been thinking about Maldini since last night and I'm struggling to think of a better defender in my life time. franco baressi was up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11098 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Paco Gento benefitted in two ways, one he was playing in the competition when Real Madrid were streets ahead of the others and he was not too shabby a footballer aswell. I've been thinking about Maldini since last night and I'm struggling to think of a better defender in my life time. franco baressi was up there with players of that caliber it's like picking between amazing and awesome. you reckon in fifteen years time people will be speaking of Bramble and Taylor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10035 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Mendieta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 maldini was the best defender i've ever seen, simply because he could play all the way across the back as well and never look out of position and had all the attributes needed... bit like kohler as well but better technically. in terms of british defenders, tony adams was always a favourite because he was a leader and a really good captain as well as being a good footballer. not anywhere near as good as maldini of course. oh and gento, would probably be good enough to get into most champions league sides if he were in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11098 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 oh and gento, would probably be good enough to get into most champions league sides if he were in his prime. These statements always bring the argumentative side of me out into the daylight. It's impossible imo to judge, Gento may have been streets ahead of his counterparts but some distance behind the likes of Maldini, we can't really compare them. Football was different; the facilities and fitness regimes, the style and rules of play, the standard of team-mates and opposition. Obviously you can compare the likes of Terry to Adams because the football hasn't changed enough, where as Gento was playing 40 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Gento and Maldini is a strange comparison. Gento was an outside left. He'd be at least as quick as most players these days too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 apologies, i was just replying to who won the most european cups. you're right about the comparison, he was an outside left or winger. no comparison to maldini for example. different player. gento could run 11 second 100metres with the ball according to folklore and i'd expect him to be technically good enough (in theory of course) to at least play in the premiership if he were a few (around 40) years younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 apologies, i was just replying to who won the most european cups. you're right about the comparison, he was an outside left or winger. no comparison to maldini for example. different player. gento could run 11 second 100metres with the ball according to folklore and i'd expect him to be technically good enough (in theory of course) to at least play in the premiership if he were a few (around 40) years younger. I was on about Fish's comparison, not yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Matthias Sammer was always a favourite of mine, great defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 good enough to play in midfield as well. shame his career was cut short by injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Mendieta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Paco Gento benefitted in two ways, one he was playing in the competition when Real Madrid were streets ahead of the others and he was not too shabby a footballer aswell. I've been thinking about Maldini since last night and I'm struggling to think of a better defender in my life time. 2J would probably say Paul McGrath Baresi wasn't too shabby. I always liked Jurgen Kohler too. A bit like Tony Adams but a better footballer. McGrath's the best I've seen in my lifetime over here Alex mate, can't think of anyone barring Tony Adams and Jaap Stam who run him close, and I only saw him during the end of his tether. Baresi has to be the best in one position so to speak although only saw him in his 30's like McGrath. Maldini simply for me has to go down as the best I've seen due to the fact you stick him anywhere along the back four and he was the best in the world. I wonder how many folk actually realise he is right footed as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Costacurta has 4 (i think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6975 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Matthias Sammer was always a favourite of mine, great defender. Sammer was more of a midfielder playng sweeper if I recall. Used to play so deep and just clean stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Libero/sweeper in the classic Kraut tradition tbqfh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7335 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Serie A: 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004. Coppa Italia: 2003. Italian Super Cup: 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 2005. European Cup/Champions League: 1989, 1990, 1994, 2003, 2007 European Supercup: 1989, 1990, 1994, 2003 World Club Cup: 1989, 1990 World Soccer's World Player of the Year Award: 1994 On February 20th, 2007, he played his 100th Champions League game Reached his 600th Serie A appearance on May 13, 2007 Not a bad roll call. Bet he wished hed come out of retirement for tlast years WC though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Serie A: 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004. Coppa Italia: 2003. Italian Super Cup: 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 2005. European Cup/Champions League: 1989, 1990, 1994, 2003, 2007 European Supercup: 1989, 1990, 1994, 2003 World Club Cup: 1989, 1990 World Soccer's World Player of the Year Award: 1994 On February 20th, 2007, he played his 100th Champions League game Reached his 600th Serie A appearance on May 13, 2007 Not a bad roll call. Bet he wished hed come out of retirement for tlast years WC though I was thinking that. At the same time had he not retired from international football when he did (2002 iirc), he may not have kept on playing so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10035 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 (edited) Libero/sweeper in the classic Kraut tradition tbqfh Not really, he was interpreting his role far more offensive than the classic role. Maybe a bit more like Beckenbauer. They started calling it the the Libero/sweeper in front of the defenders to distinguish it from the old fashioned liberos (like Augenthaler etc.) who played behind the defenders. This was a huge step from going from old fashioned man marking systems to a more zonal system. Edited May 25, 2007 by Isegrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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