David Kelly 1280 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 remember Bolton beating United at the Reebok on the last day of October in 2004. It was Graeme Souness' first reverse as United manager after seven wins and a couple of draws. Souness came across to me just outside the United dressing room and started bleating about Bolton's tactics. My immediate reaction was to think "well, you are paid £2m a year to come up with ideas to combat whatever tactics opposing managers may throw at you". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47143 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) My immediate reaction was to think "well, you are paid £2m a year to come up with ideas to combat whatever tactics opposing managers may throw at you".......of course, I kept this thought to myself. It would have been hard to actually say anything anyway as at the time, my tongue was plunged to the tonsils between Mr. Souness's arse cheeks. Edited May 17, 2007 by Gemmill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1280 Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 That wasn't the type of Anal I meant but it does fit like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 My immediate reaction was to think "well, you are paid £2m a year to come up with ideas to combat whatever tactics opposing managers may throw at you".......of course, I kept this thought to myself. It would have been hard to actually say anything anyway as at the time, my tongue was plunged to the tonsils between Mr. Souness's arse cheeks, whilst Saunders was giving me a reach around FYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11080 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 ... didn't Alan deride Sam's tactics himself... didn't he alos whine and bitch when Big Sam said that Roeder wasn't qualified to do the job (and since then proven right)... but that's... that's hypocrisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 All the more reason for BS to blank him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) I'd love to see Sam tell Oliver to go fuck himself, but most managers need the lercal press on their side. Especially with a lunatic like Oliver who would just hold a vendetta. Be brilliant to assort a few quotes of Anal's and forward them into the Chronicle/try to bring them to Sam's attention. Edited May 17, 2007 by Barney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythetoon 0 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) The fifty faced twat If anyone can bother to find his critical quotes of Big Sam's tactics from that match which he did do as I remember them, I'll post them up on the N.O mainsite under the title "Oliver - Two Faced" or something. Edit: BTW we have a kind of running war thing with Thompson House regarding Oliver, so they will see this and their reaction would be interesting. Edited May 17, 2007 by Howaythetoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 The fifty faced twat If anyone can bother to find his critical quotes of Big Sam's tactics from that match which he did do as I remember them, I'll post them up on the N.O mainsite under the title "Oliver - Two Faced" or something. Edit: BTW we have a kind of running war thing with Thompson House regarding Oliver, so they will see this and their reaction would be interesting. That with a poll on whether the fans think he should cut all ties with the club would be the business, a simple yes or no, tried it the other day but couldn't even work the poll thing properly Get the bindipping bastard out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 The fifty faced twat If anyone can bother to find his critical quotes of Big Sam's tactics from that match which he did do as I remember them, I'll post them up on the N.O mainsite under the title "Oliver - Two Faced" or something. Edit: BTW we have a kind of running war thing with Thompson House regarding Oliver, so they will see this and their reaction would be interesting. Running war? How's that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I think they asked them not to post full articles and just to post extracts and links to the full article. Slight exaggeration from HTT perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 It would funny if it weren't for the fact half the 'news' quoted around forums actually comes from one of his articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Chomp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Btw, what happened to Roeder being here next season Alan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythetoon 0 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I think they asked them not to post full articles and just to post extracts and links to the full article. Slight exaggeration from HTT perhaps. Oh, goes further than that. Someone once made a post on N.O with "Anal Oliver" in it's title and after it got to a few pages, we get an e-mail from the Chronicle asking us to pull it, we didn't but we edited it. (Mind there were one or two potentially damaging comments in the thread, something about bets and beer...) Ever since that day they've been on at us over their articles, images, more Oliver bashing and even requested that we remove the Doh'liver article and the mock photo of Oliver that accompanied it. (We removed the photo) Then there was their poll results over MON/Hitzfeld and dropping N.O's link from their site, only to put it back on after I made a fuss about it, but when they did put it back on, well below where it used to be, i.e. underneath the official site and Nufc.com's. I've also had a few frank exhanges with Paul New the editor who to be fair, seemed sick of having to reply to what I imagine were a lot of e-mails about Oliver, and he also promised to add fans' comments to the paper whenever big news happened from the likes of N.O which he did, including Toontastic. Although that has now all stopped it seems, they have their own highly censored forum. Looking back we were too soft, especially over the removal of that mock photo and other stuff, now though I'd tell them to fuck off if they tried any of that crap. BTW whatever happened to Doh'liver? I have my suspicions as to who it was but could be anyone really, sure that person resides on here though, if so you should come out of the woodwork mate and post more, class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Oliver, despite what he reckons about not reading message boards is probably seething at all the stick he gets. Good, the fucking muppet deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11080 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 they have their own highly censored forum. or am I being wooshed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythetoon 0 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Oliver, despite what he reckons about not reading message boards is probably seething at all the stick he gets. Good, the fucking muppet deserves it. If he's saying he doesn't read message boards = he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 As if he could even use a computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythetoon 0 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 they have their own highly censored forum. or am I being wooshed? Wors is highly moderated, but censored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Just in case you're reading Alan - nobody likes you, you brown-nosing twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 The fifty faced twat If anyone can bother to find his critical quotes of Big Sam's tactics from that match which he did do as I remember them, I'll post them up on the N.O mainsite under the title "Oliver - Two Faced" or something. Edit: BTW we have a kind of running war thing with Thompson House regarding Oliver, so they will see this and their reaction would be interesting. Why Big Sam's not the man for ToonMar 6 2006 By Alan Oliver, The Evening Chronicle Those fans who have had a little wager on Sam Allardyce being the next manager of Newcastle United know what they have to do today - tear up their betting slip. The bookies make Big Sam third favourite behind Martin O'Neill and Roberto Mancini, but there is no way the United supporters will want to see their team playing the way Bolton play - even if it's another 50 years before they win a trophy. In fact, it's a good job Alan Green, the Radio Five man who called Bolton's football ugly and fell out with Allardyce, wasn't at St James' Park on Saturday. Ugly? That was almost playing Bolton a compliment. It was joyless, brutal stuff, especially compared with some of the one-touch football United played at times. Take, for example, the build-up for the second goal. Emre, Scott Parker and Celestine Babayaro were all involved before the ball was fed out to Charles N'Zogbia on the left and the Frenchman put over the sort of cross that Alan Shearer craves, and which he hardly ever got during the previous regime. And who cares if Bolton keeper Jussi Jaaskelainen made a pig's breakfast of Shearer's header? Certainly not Glenn Roeder, who prepares his team more thoroughly than I have ever known a United manager do so in the past 30 years. Shearer has been shackled to the dugout in the last three games, and you did not need to be a brain surgeon to realise just how happy he was to be out playing again. And I have to say that Shearer, despite getting a raw deal from a surprisingly inefficient referee in Alan Wiley and his assistant on the far side, was nothing short of awesome on Saturday. But he wasn't the only one. In fact, the hardest job for United supporters was picking their man of the match. Some went for Emre. Yet for me, Scott Parker just edged it because of the way he never let Bolton settle. It was a day when United did not have a weakness, even with Michael Owen, Kieron Dyer, Titus Bramble, Steven Taylor and Stephen Carr all still missing. As a result, they scored three goals for only the second time at St James' Park this season, and at 3-0 were on course for a few more. But Shola Ameobi was still celebrating his goal and could not drag his weary bones off the floor as Bolton got a consolation. This stopped United getting what would have been a deserved fourth clean sheet in a row and, amazingly, it was the first goal they have conceded under Roeder from open play in his six matches in charge. And you have to remember that this has been achieved with the same defence he inherited at the beginning of last month. It's now 13 points out of 15 for Roeder as United moved briefly into the highest position - 10th - that they have been in all season, though they dropped down a slot yesterday when Manchester City beat Sunderland. Roeder and United will be in Manchester themselves for their next little test - against the Reds at Old Trafford on Sunday. And Roeder, who masterminded a League victory over Man Utd on their own pitch in his time as manager of West Ham, will be bidding to do what no Newcastle manager has done since Joe Harvey in 1972: beat the side from Old Trafford in front of their own fans. But with the newly-found confidence, team spirit and organisation, at least Roeder will take his merry men to the North West knowing that they have a chance after the way they brought Everton and now Bolton down with a bang. Verdict: A truly excellent victory for United against one of the most uncompromising teams in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11080 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 they have their own highly censored forum. or am I being wooshed? Wors is highly moderated, but censored? it's a fine line between moderation and... ZIEG HEIL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythetoon 0 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Fat Fred: You'll be amazed what the supporters will put up with once I've finished Operation Roeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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