@yourservice 67 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Bookie runner Assistant bookie runner Reserve team bookie runner Reserve team assistant bookie runner Academy bookie runner Academy assistant bookie runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 Chief Geordie Honourary Geordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 DOF? © Baggio In what world does a director of football report to the manager? Behave. Ask Baggio, he'll confirm for you. Pretty sure they will have to at some point. 'Talk to' <> 'Report to' You don't hire Arsene Wenger and he brings David Dean as part of his staff, or Martin Jol and that Comoli spiv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 (edited) Like many forward thinking managers, he has followed the lead of american professional sports coaching. Lets have a look at the coaching staff of a middle ranking NFL team: Scott Linehan Head Coach Rick Venturi Assistant Head Coach/Linebackers Jim Haslett Defensive Coordinator Greg Olson Offensive Coordinator Brian Baker Defensive Line Paul Boudreau Offensive Line Jim Chaney Assistant Offensive Line Mike Cox Defensive Quality Control/Assistant Defensive Line Todd Downing Assistant Special Teams/Defensive Assistant Henry Ellard Wide Receivers Judd Garrett Tight Ends Jeff Horton Special Assistant/Offense Dana LeDuc Strength and Conditioning Ron Milus Assistant Secondary Wayne Moses Running Backs Keith Murphy Offensive Quality Control Doug Nussmeier Quarterbacks Al Roberts Special Teams Willy Robinson Secondary Brad Roll Assistant Strength and Conditioning And a typical baseball outfit: 22 Eric Wedge Manager 28 Jeff Datz Bench Coach 6 Luis Rivera First Base/Infield Coach 35 Joel Skinner Third Base Coach 9 Derek Shelton Hitting Coach 4 Luis Isaac Bullpen Coach 51 Carl Willis Pitching Coach 43 Dan Williams Bullpen Catcher 60 Dennis Malave Bullpen Catcher Paul Spicuzza Senior Consultant, Athletic Trainer Lonnie Soloff Head Athletic Trainer/Director of Medical Services Rick Jameyson Assistant Athletic Trainer Nick Kenney Assistant Athletic Trainer Tony Amato Home Clubhouse/Equipment Manager Jeff Sipos Manager of Equipment Acquisitions Willie Jenks Visiting Clubhouse Manager Marty Bokovitz Assistant Home Clubhouse/Equipment Manager Bob Chester Manager, Video Operations Frank Velotta Video Operations Lino Diaz Coordinator of Cultural Development Dr. Charles Maher Director, Employee Assistance Program Mark Schickendantz, M.D. Director, Orthopaedic Services, Head Team Physician Ronald Golovan, M.D. Assistant Director, Medical Services and Employee Assistance Program Louis Keppler, M.D. Team Physician K.V. Gopal, M.D. Team Physician Zenos Vangelos, D.O. Team Physician Jim Mehalik Director of Rehabilitation Tim Maxey Strength & Conditioning Coach Brendon Huttman Minor League Strength and Conditioning Coordinator And that's not including Physios and masseurs which Premiership clubs have plenty of. I know one of the Boro physios and there are at least four of them plus a collection of masseurs. It's about putting the best in to make sure you get the best out. Edited May 14, 2007 by Dr Kenneth Noisewater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 American football? The reason they have so many coaches is because they have specific players for specific duties. If we had a corner taking team, a final third team, a penalties squad, that point might make sense, otherwise, no thanks. Separating the instruction for different parts of the game would be ridiculous, players wouldn't know if they were coming or going, every coach needs to know everything about the game and communicate it coherently and effectively with one voice. Football is completely fluid compared to gridiron. And baseball? Are you kidding me? Physios and masseurs, that's all you've got. I hardly think the difference between top 6 and bottom 6 is how many physios and masseurs you have. Perhaps you could ask your mate how many we have btw, I don't think Derek Wright is there all on his lonesome. For the record, we've somehow just taken Micheal Owen from a career ending injury to the best fitness and shap of his life, all on a plan drawn up on the back of Terry Mac's fag packet if you believe most fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 So you'd rather have the jobs-for-the-boys set up than a modern professional coaching structure? We'll just have to agree to differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH, you do know that Klinsmann employed a very similar strategy to that of Big Sam's when he took over the German national team? He brought in specialist fitness trainers, coaches and medical staff from all over the world in a bid to improve the national squad, much to the annoyance of the German FA. Now, correct me if i'm wrong but isn't Klinsmann your first choice, just like me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 So you'd rather have the jobs-for-the-boys set up than a modern professional coaching structure? We'll just have to agree to differ. Aye because that's my position Just to clarify, I believe a manager should be appointed on his merits, not because he claims to have 28 crucial and expert staff members which is total BS, which fawning fans take as read who honeslty truly do believe NUFC employs 2 people, and we've never had anything so modern and forward thinking as physios, masseurs, fitness trainers, nutritionists etc etc. I can full well believe Fat Sam had to bring in 28 people to a side in the second division, but there is a difference between that and this club right now. Jobs for the boys? I guess there's a world of difference appointing Gary Speed and Lee Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH, you do know that Klinsmann employed a very similar strategy to that of Big Sam's when he took over the German national team? He brought in specialist fitness trainers, coaches and medical staff from all over the world in a bid to improve the national squad, much to the annoyance of the German FA. Now, correct me if i'm wrong but isn't Klinsmann your first choice, just like me? I doubt the pre-existing German set-up was anything like that of a Premiership club. And as you and I know, that fact goes against the supposed advantage of appointing the worldly experienced Fat Sam when a complete managerial novice like Klinsman knows this shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH, you do know that Klinsmann employed a very similar strategy to that of Big Sam's when he took over the German national team? He brought in specialist fitness trainers, coaches and medical staff from all over the world in a bid to improve the national squad, much to the annoyance of the German FA. Now, correct me if i'm wrong but isn't Klinsmann your first choice, just like me? I doubt the pre-existing German set-up was anything like that of a Premiership club. And as you and I know, that fact goes against the supposed advantage of appointing the worldly experienced Fat Sam when a complete managerial novice like Klinsman knows this shit? You're right, if anything a Premiership club should have a larger amount of backroom staff, due to the amount of games and such. As for your last point, I don't know what you're getting at. Fact of the matter is you're slating someone for doing the exact same thing that your favourite would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH, you do know that Klinsmann employed a very similar strategy to that of Big Sam's when he took over the German national team? He brought in specialist fitness trainers, coaches and medical staff from all over the world in a bid to improve the national squad, much to the annoyance of the German FA. Now, correct me if i'm wrong but isn't Klinsmann your first choice, just like me? I doubt the pre-existing German set-up was anything like that of a Premiership club. And as you and I know, that fact goes against the supposed advantage of appointing the worldly experienced Fat Sam when a complete managerial novice like Klinsman knows this shit? You're right, if anything a Premiership club should have a larger amount of backroom staff, due to the amount of games and such. As for your last point, I don't know what you're getting at. Fact of the matter is you're slating someone for doing the exact same thing that your favourite would. I'm saying that for one, one of the plus points of Sam is his apparent 'experience', when it would appear a complete novice like Klinsmann can do the same And second, I don't think Sam will come here and create 28 new positions, this is a myth that everyone has take to using to again appease the appointment. I think he'll come here, and for every person he brings in here, another who pretty much did the job will be out. At most a couple of new positions will appear, of the meeter and greeter / fluffer type, as it seems it just ever so hard for the precious ones like Charles to integrate into a professional outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH talking shit again, as PP said Allardyces set up or the chuckle brothers? Tough choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 What's that I hear? The sound of an axe being ground? It's the scraping of a barrel Come on though, how can he honestly have 28 staffers, if he's not counting the tea-lady or PA's? And how many of those have we not already got? How many are actual experts in something we don't have represented at the club? I know we were hiring nutritionists 10 years ago, because we got stung for hiring some daft bint who'd forged her credentials. I just dont think people know what they're on about with flowery statements about backroom staffs etc. Hmmm 28 staff specialising in specific jobs compared to Terry Mac and Clarkey? decisions, decisions But you're meant to name them. Play the game! I thought of another one he's probably included: Cheerleading Coach Give us a B, give us an S, Whaddya got!!!!! Boring sod? Bull Shit? Was kinda too obvious to post tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH talking shit again, as PP said Allardyces set up or the chuckle brothers? Tough choice! You honestly believe that is our entire staff don't you Jon? Fat Sam, the only manager out there who knows his stuff. Well, apart from complete novices like Klinsman. Perhaps you can join in the game and list 28 staff positions that Sam will set up that we don't have? And at the same time explain how Terry Mac cured Kieron Dyer and repaired Micheal Owen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH talking shit again, as PP said Allardyces set up or the chuckle brothers? Tough choice! You honestly believe that is our entire staff don't you Jon? Fat Sam, the only manager out there who knows his stuff. Well, apart from complete novices like Klinsman. Perhaps you can join in the game and list 28 staff positions that Sam will set up that we don't have? And at the same time explain how Terry Mac cured Kieron Dyer and repaired Micheal Owen. Oh, do piss off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH talking shit again, as PP said Allardyces set up or the chuckle brothers? Tough choice! You honestly believe that is our entire staff don't you Jon? Fat Sam, the only manager out there who knows his stuff. Well, apart from complete novices like Klinsman. Perhaps you can join in the game and list 28 staff positions that Sam will set up that we don't have? And at the same time explain how Terry Mac cured Kieron Dyer and repaired Micheal Owen. Oh, do piss off. Me? Right..... What do you expect when Jon's argument is so persuasive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH talking shit again, as PP said Allardyces set up or the chuckle brothers? Tough choice! You honestly believe that is our entire staff don't you Jon? Fat Sam, the only manager out there who knows his stuff. Well, apart from complete novices like Klinsman. Perhaps you can join in the game and list 28 staff positions that Sam will set up that we don't have? And at the same time explain how Terry Mac cured Kieron Dyer and repaired Micheal Owen. Oh, do piss off. Me? Right..... What do you expect when Jon's argument is so persuasive? If you are trying to bore the shit out of everyone on this board, you are doing a sterling job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH talking shit again, as PP said Allardyces set up or the chuckle brothers? Tough choice! You honestly believe that is our entire staff don't you Jon? Fat Sam, the only manager out there who knows his stuff. Well, apart from complete novices like Klinsman. Perhaps you can join in the game and list 28 staff positions that Sam will set up that we don't have? And at the same time explain how Terry Mac cured Kieron Dyer and repaired Micheal Owen. Oh, do piss off. Me? Right..... What do you expect when Jon's argument is so persuasive? If you are trying to bore the shit out of everyone on this board, you are doing a sterling job. Can you PM me your give-a-fuck-o-meter, I just need it for a sec.... At the end of the day, if you're happy to be bored by post after post fawning over a mysterious and elusive 28 member backroom staff, be my guest. Some of us aren't so, well, gullible? I swear to God I wonder how Fred has got away with it all these years, then a post like yours pops up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH talking shit again, as PP said Allardyces set up or the chuckle brothers? Tough choice! You honestly believe that is our entire staff don't you Jon? Fat Sam, the only manager out there who knows his stuff. Well, apart from complete novices like Klinsman. Perhaps you can join in the game and list 28 staff positions that Sam will set up that we don't have? And at the same time explain how Terry Mac cured Kieron Dyer and repaired Micheal Owen. Oh, do piss off. Me? Right..... What do you expect when Jon's argument is so persuasive? If you are trying to bore the shit out of everyone on this board, you are doing a sterling job. Can you PM me your give-a-fuck-o-meter, I just need it for a sec.... At the end of the day, if you're happy to be bored by post after post fawning over a mysterious and elusive 28 member backroom staff, be my guest. Some of us aren't so, well, gullible? I swear to God I wonder how Fred has got away with it all these years, then a post like yours pops up. Thats the most tragic waste of bandwidth I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Freddy loves the Pet shop boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH, if you had a Ferrari would you run it on premium unleaded or chip fat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH, if you had a Ferrari would you run it on premium unleaded or chip fat? He'd start 12 threads on the subject if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 SSH, if you had a Ferrari would you run it on premium unleaded or chip fat? That is the most persuasive argument for Fat Sam yet If Fat Sam is premium unleaded, Klinsman is methanol. Zing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 You can tell when someone is making a complete twat of themselves, you are too late responding to the shite they have asked you about. I doubt we have anything like the set up Allardyce has at Bolton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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