Jimbo 175 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Toddler fight women spared jail Four Plymouth women who goaded toddlers into fighting and filmed it have been given 12-month suspended sentences. During the case, seven minutes of video was shown. A boy wearing a nappy was called a "wimp" for not hitting his sister back after she struck him. The boy, aged two, is seen crying after being punched in the face by his three-year-old sister and is told by one of the four women in the room "not to be a wimp or a faggot" and to hit the girl back. The children's mother pleaded guilty to causing or procuring the children to be ill treated in a manner likely to cause unnecessary suffering or injury. Judge Francis Gilbert gave all four women from North Prospect in Plymouth a one-year suspended sentence, saying they posed no risk to the public. He also ordered them to do 100 hours of unpaid work. The children are in the care of the parents of their father, who is a member of the armed forces. Speaking after the case, investigating officer Det Sgt Barry Walters said: "Anyone watching this footage showing grown adults encouraging very young children committing unnatural acts would have been sickened and saddened. "We have been in touch with child protection teams across the country and to my knowledge this is the first time that something like this has ever gone to court." He said the sentencing was the "decision of the judge". "Our priority and the priority of their family is the children. "They are in a very supportive family who wish to bring them up the best way they can." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 "Judge Francis Gilbert gave all four women from North Prospect in Plymouth a one-year suspended sentence, saying they posed no risk to the public. " Perhaps the judge is just follwoing the recent Government directive which said only those posing a threat to the public should definitely be jailed (or similar). Not syaing that's right or owt btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31678 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 (edited) That's what happens when your prisons are full, whether they're a danger to the public or not they should still be punished with a custodial sentence and all have their wombs removed with rusty pliers. Edited April 20, 2007 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 "Judge Francis Gilbert gave all four women from North Prospect in Plymouth a one-year suspended sentence, saying they posed no risk to the public. " Perhaps the judge is just follwoing the recent Government directive which said only those posing a threat to the public should definitely be jailed (or similar). Not syaing that's right or owt btw. Quite probably and fair enough however how are these more of a danger to the public? http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDeta...epartment=False Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Some day a rain will come...anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31678 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 (edited) Look at the fucking state of them. Should been thrown in jail for contempt of court for turning up looking like that, scum. Edited April 20, 2007 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Off down the Bigg Market to celebrate I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1307 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Should all get a right good kicking in the cnuts if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 No risk to society? then they make me look at a picture of this? A risk to my eyesight if nowt else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4456 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Put them in a ring and make them fight until they have to be carried out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47552 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Aye, heard about this on the news this morning. Fucking disgrace. I take it they'll never get these bairns back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Aye, heard about this on the news this morning. Fucking disgrace. I take it they'll never get these bairns back? I hope not. The kids should be taken off them and they should be sterilised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Look at the fucking state of them. Should been thrown in jail for contempt of court for turning up looking like that, scum. Reservoir Dogs. Minus the reservoir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 To be fair, if this was on a TV show, it would have been really funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I must admit, the prospect of toddlers locked in gladitoral combat is quite amusing. Bit different from the reality though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Turns out a lad I know quite well off another forum used to go out with the mother on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 To be fair, if this was on a TV show, it would have been really funny. Yeah but you think animal testing should be done on people with downs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Turns out a lad I know quite well off another forum used to go out with the mother on the left. A 'friend' you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 Maybe some sense at last. The Attorney General is to review the sentencing of four women who filmed two toddlers fighting. The Plymouth women, who are all related and include the children's mother, were given suspended sentences after admitting child cruelty last week. The move follows complaints by MP Mike Penning who claimed the 12-month sentences were too lenient. Lord Goldsmith has 23 days to decide if the case should be brought before the Court of Appeal for re-sentencing. Paternal relatives of the children told BBC News they welcomed the move. They said they "felt the sentence was lenient" and "had hoped it would be a prison sentence". Public anger Zara Olver, 21, her 48-year-old mother Carole, and sisters Serenza Olver, 29, and Danielle Olver, 19, from the North Prospect area of the city, were convicted at Plymouth Crown Court last week. A tape of them forcing two toddlers to hit each other was handed to social services by the children's father who was on leave from the army. In the footage, a boy in a nappy was called a "wimp" for not hitting his sister back after she struck him and the four women were seen laughing as the children hit each other with brushes and magazines. Sentencing them, Judge Francis Gilbert said they posed no risk to the public. He also banned them from working with children and ordered the women to do 100 hours of unpaid work. The suspended sentences provoked public outrage, prompting Mr Penning to write to Lord Goldsmith. He has asked the Attorney General to use his powers to appeal against what he claimed was the leniency of the sentence - saying if the case had involved a dog fight the women would have gone to prison. The children, who cannot be named for legal reasons, are being looked after by their paternal grandparents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 The children, who cannot be named for legal reasons, are being looked after by their paternal grandparents. Five Live said they were with the social today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Should have their pubic bones kicked in with a pair of steel toers tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radgina 1 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Should have their pubic bones kicked in with a pair of steel toers tbh strange statement but I'm liking it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Should have their pubic bones kicked in with a pair of steel toers tbh strange statement but I'm liking it Went to school with this daft lass who thought she was great going out with all the hard/radgies, she wasn't laughing when one of her many boyfriend's at the time brayed her all over and kicked her that hard between the legs he fucked her pubic bone. That was the crack at the time anyway, either way it would hurt and thats what these so called mothers deserve imo. Not sure if the medical term is pubic bone BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 pubis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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