Toon set for war over Owen

[sweetleftpeg 0]

Aye, I really can't understand the stick Owen is getting for this. He didn't get injured on purporse, and his goals per game ratio for us does not indicate someone who doesn't give a shit. For what it's worth, I think he'll be here next season. He's all about reputation and being squeaky clean, and he knows fucking off would look bad.

Edited April 16, 2007 by sweetleftpeg

[Gemmill 47035]

Best result for Shepherd is if this gets picked up by Judge Judy. That way he gets his day in "court" AND gets his face on the telly.

[Scottish Mag 3]

I have seen that little of him in a Black and White shirt I almost forget at times that hes actually one of our players..

[Guest alex]

I have seen that little of him in a Black and White shirt I almost forget at times that hes actually one of our players..

Ditto.

[Dr Gloom 22509]

you just know we're going to end up having to flog him for the £12m release clause after him only playing 11 games in two years

[russyy 0]

Owen has never,and never will fit in at the Toon. If the scousers had offered the same terms as we did do you honestly think he would have choosen the Toon i think not.If another club comes and makes an offer any where near what we paid I say take it and count our losses. We dont want these sort of non commital players sucking the life blood out of our club.

[Renton 22391]

So me and Freddy are the only ones peeved about Owen's attitude then?

 

What attitude?

 

Not living in Newcastle, not attending games, and blatently putting country before club.

 

Ah right, his "not living in Newcastle, not attending games, and blatantly putting country before club" attitude. That one. Jesus wept.

 

As I've said elsewhere, the lad is a professional footballer, paid to play for Newcastle. Where he lives is a matter of personal choice, whether he attends games when injured is too - I couldn't give a fuck about either. As for putting country before club - I've seen no evidence of that (have you?) but are you surprised that he's prouder pulling on an England shirt than a Newcastle one? I'm not - he was prouder playing for England than Liverpool too ffs. And I'm quite comfortable with it, as I know that outside of getting injured playing for England, it won't impact on his performances for Newcastle at all.

 

Attending matches, and seeing how we have played is the absolute minimum I expect from this so-called professional. It would be a statement of commitment if nothing else. When Taylor was injured he attended every home match, I expect that from Owen too. You disagree, fair enough, but don't brand me as being mad for not concurring.

 

Regarding England, sorry to bring up a cliche here, but he should remember who pays his wages and his sick pay. Clubs have such investment in players now I can forsee this problem becoming more acute and players being witheld from the national team. Shepherd does have a point imo, although he's dealing with it in a particularly ham fisted way, which is typical.

 

How do you know what games he is and isn't at though? As far as I can gather you've got yourself worked up because he was at a horse race in Dubai while we were getting dicked off Man City. It's one game, so what? There's plenty season ticket holders go on holiday and miss home games. It means nowt.

 

What point are you making in your second paragraph. "He should remember who pays his wages and his sick pay." What has he done that makes you think that he isn't mindful of that? If I'm Michael Owen I'm thinking "OK, I've recovered from my knee injury, I'm fit to play for Newcastle if picked, so why should I rule myself out of playing for England?". Why should he?

 

I have it on good authority he doesn't attend matches. Seriously, where does he sit? Why do I never see him in the players box or on the touch line?

 

Imho he shouldn't risk injury with England before playing for us. Can you imagine what will happen if he takes another serious injury? Seriously, can you not see Shepherd's point?

[sweetleftpeg 0]

Owen has never,and never will fit in at the Toon. If the scousers had offered the same terms as we did do you honestly think he would have choosen the Toon i think not.If another club comes and makes an offer any where near what we paid I say take it and count our losses. We dont want these sort of non commital players sucking the life blood out of our club.

 

Aye, of course. Shola and Martins it is then.

[Gemmill 47035]

So me and Freddy are the only ones peeved about Owen's attitude then?

 

What attitude?

 

Not living in Newcastle, not attending games, and blatently putting country before club.

 

Ah right, his "not living in Newcastle, not attending games, and blatantly putting country before club" attitude. That one. Jesus wept.

 

As I've said elsewhere, the lad is a professional footballer, paid to play for Newcastle. Where he lives is a matter of personal choice, whether he attends games when injured is too - I couldn't give a fuck about either. As for putting country before club - I've seen no evidence of that (have you?) but are you surprised that he's prouder pulling on an England shirt than a Newcastle one? I'm not - he was prouder playing for England than Liverpool too ffs. And I'm quite comfortable with it, as I know that outside of getting injured playing for England, it won't impact on his performances for Newcastle at all.

 

Attending matches, and seeing how we have played is the absolute minimum I expect from this so-called professional. It would be a statement of commitment if nothing else. When Taylor was injured he attended every home match, I expect that from Owen too. You disagree, fair enough, but don't brand me as being mad for not concurring.

 

Regarding England, sorry to bring up a cliche here, but he should remember who pays his wages and his sick pay. Clubs have such investment in players now I can forsee this problem becoming more acute and players being witheld from the national team. Shepherd does have a point imo, although he's dealing with it in a particularly ham fisted way, which is typical.

 

How do you know what games he is and isn't at though? As far as I can gather you've got yourself worked up because he was at a horse race in Dubai while we were getting dicked off Man City. It's one game, so what? There's plenty season ticket holders go on holiday and miss home games. It means nowt.

 

What point are you making in your second paragraph. "He should remember who pays his wages and his sick pay." What has he done that makes you think that he isn't mindful of that? If I'm Michael Owen I'm thinking "OK, I've recovered from my knee injury, I'm fit to play for Newcastle if picked, so why should I rule myself out of playing for England?". Why should he?

 

I have it on good authority he doesn't attend matches. Seriously, where does he sit? Why do I never see him in the players box or on the touch line?

 

Imho he shouldn't risk injury with England before playing for us. Can you imagine what will happen if he takes another serious injury? Seriously, can you not see Shepherd's point?

 

Nope. As pointed out by someone on NO, "he's a footballer, not a fucking ornament". If we're going to withdraw him from England squads on the off-chance that he gets injured, then we may as well get shot of him. And we can't afford to dispose of players of that calibre lightly.

[Guest alex]

Owen has never,and never will fit in at the Toon. If the scousers had offered the same terms as we did do you honestly think he would have choosen the Toon i think not.If another club comes and makes an offer any where near what we paid I say take it and count our losses. We dont want these sort of non commital players sucking the life blood out of our club.

Bollocks.

[Gemmill 47035]

Owen has never,and never will fit in at the Toon. If the scousers had offered the same terms as we did do you honestly think he would have choosen the Toon i think not.If another club comes and makes an offer any where near what we paid I say take it and count our losses. We dont want these sort of non commital players sucking the life blood out of our club.

 

Sucking the life blood out of the club? Fucking hell. Aye, I'd sell him for what we bought him for, but don't talk cobblers about sucking the life blood out of the club. The chairman and his manager are doing that.

[Scottish Mag 3]

Owen has never,and never will fit in at the Toon. If the scousers had offered the same terms as we did do you honestly think he would have choosen the Toon i think not.If another club comes and makes an offer any where near what we paid I say take it and count our losses. We dont want these sort of non commital players sucking the life blood out of our club.

Bollocks.

 

Agreed, however it someone did give us what we paid for him I would gladly see 17 million and 110 grand a week reinvested into the shambles of a squad we have.

 

Saying that I wouldn't trust that fuckwit Roeder to spend it.

[sweetleftpeg 0]

Also, if you think we're going to attract anyone even near Owen's quality in the summer then you're in cloud cuckoo land.

[russyy 0]

Also, if you think we're going to attract anyone even near Owen's quality in the summer then you're in cloud cuckoo land.

true what you say but there's always a chance that Owen might not be the quality player he was after that injury

[sweetleftpeg 0]

Also, if you think we're going to attract anyone even near Owen's quality in the summer then you're in cloud cuckoo land.

true what you say but there's always a chance that Owen might not be the quality player he was after that injury

 

That is true, but if we flog him he'd still fucking score against us!

[Scottish Mag 3]

Also, if you think we're going to attract anyone even near Owen's quality in the summer then you're in cloud cuckoo land.

true what you say but there's always a chance that Owen might not be the quality player he was after that injury

 

That is true, but if we flog him he'd still fucking score against us!

 

Like thats a hard thing to do..

[Renton 22391]

Also, if you think we're going to attract anyone even near Owen's quality in the summer then you're in cloud cuckoo land.

 

He's a luxury we can't afford tbh, we're not big enough for him any more. We should sell him and get a decent manager and improve the squad with the proceeds. Yes, I am a hypocrite.

[sweetleftpeg 0]

Also, if you think we're going to attract anyone even near Owen's quality in the summer then you're in cloud cuckoo land.

 

He's a luxury we can't afford tbh, we're not big enough for him any more. We should sell him and get a decent manager and improve the squad with the proceeds. Yes, I am a hypocrite.

 

Good idea, but you must be thinking of a different club with a different board.

[Guest alex]

Also, if you think we're going to attract anyone even near Owen's quality in the summer then you're in cloud cuckoo land.

 

He's a luxury we can't afford tbh, we're not big enough for him any more. We should sell him and get a decent manager and improve the squad with the proceeds. Yes, I am a hypocrite.

Magic wand-tastic.

[ewerk 31582]

Also, if you think we're going to attract anyone even near Owen's quality in the summer then you're in cloud cuckoo land.

 

He's a luxury we can't afford tbh, we're not big enough for him any more. We should sell him and get a decent manager and improve the squad with the proceeds. Yes, I am a hypocrite.

 

It's a gamble really, Owen is the one player who will make a huge difference in helping us climb the league table but if we don't then he's going to become even further disillusioned and will be only 1 year from the end of his contract and he didn't have any problem letting it wind down at Liverpool.

[Renton 22391]

Also, if you think we're going to attract anyone even near Owen's quality in the summer then you're in cloud cuckoo land.

 

He's a luxury we can't afford tbh, we're not big enough for him any more. We should sell him and get a decent manager and improve the squad with the proceeds. Yes, I am a hypocrite.

 

It's a gamble really, Owen is the one player who will make a huge difference in helping us climb the league table but if we don't then he's going to become even further disillusioned and will be only 1 year from the end of his contract and he didn't have any problem letting it wind down at Liverpool.

 

Aye, that's a real concern. I don't like gambling when it comes to NUFC.

[Scottish Mag 3]

Also, if you think we're going to attract anyone even near Owen's quality in the summer then you're in cloud cuckoo land.

 

He's a luxury we can't afford tbh, we're not big enough for him any more. We should sell him and get a decent manager and improve the squad with the proceeds. Yes, I am a hypocrite.

 

It's a gamble really, Owen is the one player who will make a huge difference in helping us climb the league table but if we don't then he's going to become even further disillusioned and will be only 1 year from the end of his contract and he didn't have any problem letting it wind down at Liverpool.

 

Exactly, I posted yesterday..

 

Thats the most worrying thing for me. Does anyone really seeing us improving enough next season that would encourage Owen to sign an extension, no chance if that fuckwit Roeder is still in charge. That means next summer we would need to sell or let him walk away the following season for fuck all.

 

Whilst I would love to see a fit Michael Owen in a Newcastle shirt scoring goals and appreciate he is one of very few players in our squad of any genuine class.

 

Can we afford to take that risk or would sellling him now and reinvesting the money into another player on a longer contract be more to the benefit of the long term future of the club?

[ewerk 31582]

Blatant plagarism really.

[Gordie the Geordie 0]

Boils me piss... the thought of him sitting for best part of a season with us struggling and paying him 55k a week.. we wouldnt risk him and he,s supposed to be mended, as has been said what happens if he gets injured and we dont have for the next season are we just acting as a health service for the national team..?

PRO,S:- Itll get him match fit (will it matter this late in the season to us)

CONS:- he could get injured and we have to pick up the bill and do with out him again.

 

Anyway do think he,s gonna make much difference, he,s still going to be surrounded by shite and I think were expecting an awful lot out the feller..?

[Ketsbaia 0]

Owen has never,and never will fit in at the Toon. If the scousers had offered the same terms as we did do you honestly think he would have choosen the Toon i think not.If another club comes and makes an offer any where near what we paid I say take it and count our losses. We dont want these sort of non commital players sucking the life blood out of our club.

 

Sucking the life blood out of the club? Fucking hell. Aye, I'd sell him for what we bought him for, but don't talk cobblers about sucking the life blood out of the club. The chairman and his manager are doing that.

 

Spot on.